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Can the Broncos & NRL do something, he is still under contract

The Sydney Roosters are adamant they won’t be making a play for Brisbane and NSW Origin prop Payne Haas but it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t try and entertain it given what’s unfolded at the Broncos in the past 24 hours.

What is certain is the Roosters had some dialogue with the NSW Origin front row forward about six weeks ago but the word at the time was it was filed in the too hard basket given Haas is still signed with Brisbane until the end of 2024.

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Kaz said:
Can the Broncos & NRL do something, he is still under contract

The Sydney Roosters are adamant they won’t be making a play for Brisbane and NSW Origin prop Payne Haas but it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t try and entertain it given what’s unfolded at the Broncos in the past 24 hours.

What is certain is the Roosters had some dialogue with the NSW Origin front row forward about six weeks ago but the word at the time was it was filed in the too hard basket given Haas is still signed with Brisbane until the end of 2024.

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the problem is you'd have to prove the Roosters were enticing Haas to break his contract and not simply talking about 2025 on.

Uncle Nick isn't stupid enough to leave evidence lying around (and even if he was, the NRL aren't good enough to find it.)
 
Kaz said:
Can the Broncos & NRL do something, he is still under contract

The Sydney Roosters are adamant they won’t be making a play for Brisbane and NSW Origin prop Payne Haas but it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t try and entertain it given what’s unfolded at the Broncos in the past 24 hours.

What is certain is the Roosters had some dialogue with the NSW Origin front row forward about six weeks ago but the word at the time was it was filed in the too hard basket given Haas is still signed with Brisbane until the end of 2024.

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All we can really do is stand our ground. For me it's either make him honour his contract, swap him for another player of equal ability or let him see his contract out away from the NRL side.
 
Wolfie said:
All we can really do is stand our ground. For me it's either make him honour his contract, swap him for another player of equal ability or let him see his contract out away from the NRL side.
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I think unless we can get a viable trade then it’s a no brainer that he stays in the side because even if he’s planning to leave he still needs to put his best foot forward to entice other buyers so provided he can at least no destabilise the playing group, it’s likely he’s still going to be a very productive and motivated competitor, even if he’s doing it for selfish reasons.
 
FYI this is what our skipper told Triple M this arvo:

“I’ve spoken to Payne and he’s assured us that he’s playing tomorrow, and look he’s a professional and I know he’ll do his job,” Reynolds told Triple M.

“But obviously it’s not the news you want to hear for someone who is an important part of your team and fingers crossed that things get solved and that he’s at the Broncos for a very long time to come.

“Payne is a professional athlete and there’s no doubt he’ll turn up ready to play.”

However, Reynolds also said it was a tough issue to comment on as players can quickly outgrow long-term deals.

“A lot of players sign on long-term deals, take (Selwyn) Cobbo for example looking at a multi-year deal.

“The rise of these kids these days, they go from being 20 years old fringe first graders to superstars of the game and they outgrow their contract pretty quick so it’s sort of a hard one to speak on.

“Payne is a great player who probably signed for a lot less than what he’s worth.

“That’s the risk you take with long-term contracts. The longest contract I ever signed was after we won the comp with Souths but I was well established then and basically the club knew what they were getting from me and what I could deliver for them.

“These kids coming into first grade, some have only played a handful of games and they’re signing five-year deals and getting paid on potential and they probably outgrow that sometimes.

“Maybe they might not live up to it but it’s a hard one because rugby league is such a brutal game and you can’t play forever and obviously you want to make the most out of your career and yeah it’s a tough discussion the NRL need to have.”
 
Foordy said:
FYI, here's what Parker had to say

“It’s horrific,” Parker said. “Let’s just rewind to when Payne Haas first got to the club. He was an 18-year-old signed on a four-year deal after three games and a shoulder reco. Never in the club’s history before have they done that.

“In that time, off their own bat through their goodwill, upgraded his deal. Normally when a club upgrades a deal they want an extension. Didn’t do that, upgrade.

“Since that time, they’ve helped him through misdemeanours. And now he’s at a stage where he’s getting very well paid. He’s gone to the club and asked for an upgrade and an extension.

“This player, whilst he’s a terrific player, at no stage in the Broncos history has a player been bigger than the club.

“I would let Payne Haas go right now. There’s an argument that Payne gets what he wants but from the club’s perspective, if you’ve got a player inside your four walls that does not want to be there, he’s thrown all the toys out of the cot and said he wants and immediate release, after five straight wins.

“If you’re sitting there doing your boots up and you look across — and yes he’s a good player and yes he’s going to do well — and this player doesn’t want to be there, it’s not over. He’s getting very very well paid. To me, it shows a real reflection on Payne and from a club’s persepective, they hold their integrity high as to how they have looked him during that period of time but at the moment, let him go. If you don’t want to play for the Broncos, don’t play.”
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On the one hand it makes sense, but on the other hand you don't to show players how easy it is to get their way too. It's a bloody tough issue. Maybe they can arrange a good trade, I'd take Sam Walker.
 
Foordy said:
FYI this is what our skipper told Triple M this arvo:

“I’ve spoken to Payne and he’s assured us that he’s playing tomorrow, and look he’s a professional and I know he’ll do his job,” Reynolds told Triple M.

“But obviously it’s not the news you want to hear for someone who is an important part of your team and fingers crossed that things get solved and that he’s at the Broncos for a very long time to come.

“Payne is a professional athlete and there’s no doubt he’ll turn up ready to play.”

However, Reynolds also said it was a tough issue to comment on as players can quickly outgrow long-term deals.

“A lot of players sign on long-term deals, take (Selwyn) Cobbo for example looking at a multi-year deal.

“The rise of these kids these days, they go from being 20 years old fringe first graders to superstars of the game and they outgrow their contract pretty quick so it’s sort of a hard one to speak on.

“Payne is a great player who probably signed for a lot less than what he’s worth.

“That’s the risk you take with long-term contracts. The longest contract I ever signed was after we won the comp with Souths but I was well established then and basically the club knew what they were getting from me and what I could deliver for them.

“These kids coming into first grade, some have only played a handful of games and they’re signing five-year deals and getting paid on potential and they probably outgrow that sometimes.

“Maybe they might not live up to it but it’s a hard one because rugby league is such a brutal game and you can’t play forever and obviously you want to make the most out of your career and yeah it’s a tough discussion the NRL need to have.”
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He makes a very good point. Long contracts always turn out bad.

I think the club should have a strict 3 year maximum as a policy.
 
Kooly87 said:
I think it’s a no brainer that he stays in the side because even if he’s planning to leave he still needs to put his best foot forward to entice other buyers so provided he can at least no destabilise the playing group, it’s likely he’s still going to be a very productive and motivated competitor, even if he’s doing it for selfish reasons.
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I kind of agree with Parker. If he is asking for a release mid season, no player is bigger than the club. I would be inclined to stand him down in the short term.
 
Wolfie said:
All we can really do is stand our ground. For me it's either make him honour his contract, swap him for another player of equal ability or let him see his contract out away from the NRL side.
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I prefer my idea. Hire a person to punch the shit out of him.

Does Jamayne Isaako still know those bikers from the barber shop. Asking for a friend. 🤔
 
Kimlo said:
He makes a very good point. Long contracts always turn out bad.

I think the club should have a strict 3 year maximum as a policy.
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although I'm not sure if he realises that we upgraded Haas of our own accord, mid contract (without even getting an extension in return)
 
Kimlo said:
He makes a very good point. Long contracts always turn out bad.

I think the club should have a strict 3 year maximum as a policy.
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Payne can't really have it both ways. He was overpaid and got security young blokes dont usually get. He's still exceptionally well paid for a prop. I think as a club we are mad paying him over 750k anyway.
 
Wolfie said:
I kind of agree with Parker. If he is asking for a release mid season, no player is bigger than the club. I would be inclined to stand him down in the short term.
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I’m inclined to agree but in that scenario the only loser is us. He gets paid the best part of a million bucks a year to sit on his ass for the next 18 months while we basically compete with a handicap in our salary cap.

I’d want to be very sure there was absolutely no way for him to be a productive and non-disruptive member of the squad before I pulled the trigger on that option.
 
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