OFFICIAL Te Maire Martin Signs Three Year Deal with the Warriors

[theshed]

So how do we feel about losing Te Maire Martin to retain Billy Walters?

In my opinion, Billy has been perfect for us to date, has earned his position, but is now the last weak link in the premiership winning squad his father is building. I think his old man should find him a position in the ESL while he's on a roll. Before he's forced to drop him. Which must happen.

I'm not calling it nepotism, but by next season it will be a clear conflict of interest. He came into the squad as a 6, has been fashioned into our starting 9 and has been picked every week this season, barring the last through injury. He's been good enough. No question. But that's the only position left we need to improve.

The decision to invest in him will cost us Turpin, who in fairness hasn't put up a fight. Kelly will no doubt also leave. No one is too bothered by either. But Te Maire is a notch above Billy. Could he have slotted into 9? I think so. And what if Gamble leaves? And what about Tesi? Where could he potentially fit in?

At what point do we start to feel uncomfortable?

You would have a good point if TMM could play hooker.

Unfortunately Billy is the best we have until Paix can play 80 or Mozer is ready for a bench spot.

 

[McHunt]

If Walters wants to stick around for 250k, we'd be mad not to keep him.

The problem isn't what we're paying him. It's that he's an automatic pick each week, and about now, I'm starting to get the faintest whiff the squad is being assembled to protect him. I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but if we're to move this team up to the next level, he's the player who needs to make way. We can't just collect all these players to run around in the QCup.

 

[McHunt]

You would have a good point if TMM could play hooker.

Unfortunately Billy is the best we have until Paix can play 80 or Mozer is ready for a bench spot.

Well this is exactly what I mean. Why is he the best we have? Whose plan was that?

I realize Te Maire isn't a hooker now. But he's a top notch utility half. A much brighter prospect than Billy, who was a barely NRL standard utility half when we signed him. We are now letting go of a player of this standard, while keeping one of Billy's standard, who's running out every week.

 

[Fernando]

Well this is exactly what I mean. Why is he the best we have? Whose plan was that?

I realize Te Maire isn't a hooker now. But he's a top notch utility half. A much brighter prospect than Billy, who was a barely NRL standard utility half when we signed him. We are now letting go of a player of this standard, while keeping one of Billy's standard, who's running out every week.

Yeah we are keeping a hooker who has been doing a job for us all season over a guy who wants to return to NZ who has never played hooker before, that's a real shocker.

 

[Dash]

Yeah we are keeping a hooker who has been doing a job for us all season over a guy who wants to return to NZ who has never played hooker before, that's a real shocker.

I also can't believe we let Brenko Lee go to keep Billy.

 

[Big Del]

TMM has brought so much calmness and structure to our defence that I don’t know if Walsh has.

All these cliches about TMM and his structure and defence organisation ?
I must not watch on a big enough screen TV . Because I don`t very often see the FB in the picture when I`m watching games . A lot of times a line break is made and the FB is no where in the frame .

So ,,, I don`t understand how these foot ball critics can tell WTF TMM is doing or saying unless the have prime seats in the grandstand on half way at every ground the Broncos play at . And a parabolic microphone to hear what he is actually saying out on the ground .

I think it is some thing some one said in a press conference and it sounds cool to quote it .

 

[Broncapz]

Well this is exactly what I mean. Why is he the best we have? Whose plan was that?

I realize Te Maire isn't a hooker now. But he's a top notch utility half. A much brighter prospect than Billy, who was a barely NRL standard utility half when we signed him. We are now letting go of a player of this standard, while keeping one of Billy's standard, who's running out every week.

Billy is keeping Turpin out of the side.

TMM could not keep Turpin out of the side.

I rest my case.

Also Billy is above average for the current crop of NRL 9's. He's been an absolute blessing paried with Paix 14 and doing the job. 9 is a position we've currently been below average in until the Walters/Paix combo.

 

[Trill Harrigan]

Yeah we are keeping a hooker who has been doing a job for us all season over a guy who wants to return to NZ who has never played hooker before, that's a real shocker.

you might wanna consider the walsh factor as well, it's not we're just ditching tmm for billy boy, no doubt there are a few moving parts to this little trade

 

[McHunt]

Yeah we are keeping a hooker who has been doing a job for us all season over a guy who wants to return to NZ who has never played hooker before, that's a real shocker.

I also can't believe we let Brenko Lee go to keep Billy.

Billy is keeping Turpin out of the side.

TMM could not keep Turpin out of the side.

I rest my case.

Also Billy is above average for the current crop of NRL 9's. He's been an absolute blessing paried with Paix 14 and doing the job. 9 is a position we've currently been below average in until the Walters/Paix combo.

I disagree that Billy is "above average." I think at best he is "average." Which isn't an insult considering he was barely wooden spoon first grade standard when we signed him. But I think this is as good as it will ever get for him. He should go to market in England with it.

All I'm asking is at what point will you feel uncomfortable that Billy Walters is our first choice hooker, when he was only ever a stop gap depth signing?

For me, I think it will be game one, 2023.

In my opinion we have a potential premiership team here. I can realistically see us winning the premiership next season with this squad. Do you think Billy Walters is a premiership hooker? Do you wonder why he's the logical choice given the dearth of options? Why do we find ourselves with this dearth of options when it's not the case in any other position?

Te Maire is the first player we're losing who looks like a premiership standard player. Well to me, anyway. I expect many of you will be similarly upset when Herbie leaves. But that will because we have too much depth in his positions.

As for Te Maire not being a hooker, neither was Billy. He never wanted to play there. He's only playing 9 because he wasn't good enough to play 6.

 

[Dash]

I disagree that Billy is "above average." I think at best he is "average." Which isn't an insult considering he was barely wooden spoon first grade standard when we signed him. But I think this is as good as it will ever get for him. He should go to market in England with it.

All I'm asking is at what point will you feel uncomfortable that Billy Walters is our first choice hooker, when he was only ever a stop gap depth signing?

For me, I think it will be game one, 2023.

In my opinion we have a potential premiership team here. I can realistically see us winning the premiership next season with this squad. Do you think Billy Walters is a premiership hooker? Do you wonder why he's the logical choice given the dearth of options? Why do we find ourselves with this dearth of options when it's not the case in any other position?

Te Maire is the first player we're losing who looks like a premiership standard player. Well to me, anyway. I expect many of you will be similarly upset when Herbie leaves. But that will because we have too much depth in his positions.

As for Te Maire not being a hooker, neither was Billy. He never wanted to play there. He's only playing 9 because he wasn't good enough to play 6.

I'll be concerned when we turn down a better hooker.

 

[lynx000]

So how do we feel about losing Te Maire Martin to retain Billy Walters?

In my opinion, Billy has been perfect for us to date, has earned his position, but is now the last weak link in the premiership winning squad his father is building. I think his old man should find him a position in the ESL while he's on a roll. Before he's forced to drop him. Which must happen.

I'm not calling it nepotism, but by next season it will be a clear conflict of interest. He came into the squad as a 6, has been fashioned into our starting 9 and has been picked every week this season, barring the last through injury. He's been good enough. No question. But that's the only position left we need to improve.

The decision to invest in him will cost us Turpin, who in fairness hasn't put up a fight. Kelly will no doubt also leave. No one is too bothered by either. But Te Maire is a notch above Billy. Could he have slotted into 9? I think so. And what if Gamble leaves? And what about Tesi? Where could he potentially fit in?

At what point do we start to feel uncomfortable?

And you say you don't have agendas. Exhibit `A' my friend, the latest chapter in the Billy Walters/conflict of interest/nepotism agenda.

 

[NSW stables]

All these cliches about TMM and his structure and defence organisation ?
I must not watch on a big enough screen TV . Because I don`t very often see the FB in the picture when I`m watching games . A lot of times a line break is made and the FB is no where in the frame .

So ,,, I don`t understand how these foot ball critics can tell WTF TMM is doing or saying unless the have prime seats in the grandstand on half way at every ground the Broncos play at . And a parabolic microphone to hear what he is actually saying out on the ground .

I think it is some thing some one said in a press conference and it sounds cool to quote it .

You obviously would not see the fullback on screen, if you could they would be really out of position (unless defending on the goal line).

Where you see the fullbacks importance to defence structures is live or from behind the defensive line. The fullback directs the players who have made the tackle which side of the field to break off to and defend on to match the numbers and prevent overlaps.

They have a better view of the offence's attacking structure and communicate to shift players to cover the threat. Call out key players and set plays the opposition is working towards. You don't need a parabolic mic for elite fullbacks, because they make themselves heard without it.

Fullback is more than standing behind everyone else and waiting for a kick or occasional cover tackle.

 

[Wolfie]

All these cliches about TMM and his structure and defence organisation ?
I must not watch on a big enough screen TV . Because I don`t very often see the FB in the picture when I`m watching games . A lot of times a line break is made and the FB is no where in the frame .

So ,,, I don`t understand how these foot ball critics can tell WTF TMM is doing or saying unless the have prime seats in the grandstand on half way at every ground the Broncos play at . And a parabolic microphone to hear what he is actually saying out on the ground .

I think it is some thing some one said in a press conference and it sounds cool to quote it .

It's been posted here before, but our defence tightend up when he started playing fullback and the stats back that up.

 

[Sproj]

I disagree that Billy is "above average." I think at best he is "average." Which isn't an insult considering he was barely wooden spoon first grade standard when we signed him. But I think this is as good as it will ever get for him. He should go to market in England with it.

All I'm asking is at what point will you feel uncomfortable that Billy Walters is our first choice hooker, when he was only ever a stop gap depth signing?

For me, I think it will be game one, 2023.

In my opinion we have a potential premiership team here. I can realistically see us winning the premiership next season with this squad. Do you think Billy Walters is a premiership hooker? Do you wonder why he's the logical choice given the dearth of options? Why do we find ourselves with this dearth of options when it's not the case in any other position?

Te Maire is the first player we're losing who looks like a premiership standard player. Well to me, anyway. I expect many of you will be similarly upset when Herbie leaves. But that will because we have too much depth in his positions.

As for Te Maire not being a hooker, neither was Billy. He never wanted to play there. He's only playing 9 because he wasn't good enough to play 6.

What has happened to you man? You used to provide some insightful discussion points, this right here though, come on think it through.

Billy came as a utility who could play 6, 7 or 9. TMM came as a half who it turns out could also play fullback. Billy is now the 9, TMM is not or never has been considered there. Mam is now the full time 6, therefore Mam is keeping TMM out of the side. Billy is keeping Turpin thankfully out of the side. Bear in mind, we have Paix now and Mozer signed to a long term deal. These two, plus Packer, are our 9s moving forward.

If you argued that keeping Billy might force out a Paix or Packer than fair enough but this argument that he is pushing TMM out is just another really stupid take. Kevvie said just yesterday, which you reported on here in fact, that he wants to keep TMM but there is no clear pathway for him into our team moving forward. This is obviously due to Mam, Reynolds, Niu and Walsh.

Bring back the good @McHunt, the one who used to make good discussion starters and involved in understandable discussion. Right now you just come across as a journalist who posts stupidity to get clicks.

 

[Brotherdu]

I'm not sure why TMM would want to leave early. I mean, assuming he doesn't come straight back into the side when he is fully fit, he is a Tesi/Reyno/Mam injury away from playing finals footy and the possibility of a GF.

I'd want to stick it out for a few more months and head over next year.

 

[Big Del]

You obviously would not see the fullback on screen, if you could they would be really out of position (unless defending on the goal line).

Where you see the fullbacks importance to defence structures is live or from behind the defensive line. The fullback directs the players who have made the tackle which side of the field to break off the tackle and defend on to match the numbers and prevent overlaps.

They have a better view of the offence's attacking structure and communicate to shift players to cover the threat. Call out key players and set plays the opposition is working towards. You don't need a parabolic mic for elite fullbacks, because they make themselves heard without it.

Fullback is more more than standing behind everyone else and waiting for a kick or occasional cover tackle.

Tell me some thing I don`t know ?
What I am saying is people are parroting because - Where you see the fullbacks importance to defence structures is live or from behind the defensive line.

These folks repeating the same line re TMM haven`t had the opportunity to watch from that position in every game TMM played . So how can they make that judgement ?
Also unless you are on the sideline there is no way you cam know what TMM is saying on the field .

 

[Big Del]

It's been posted here before, but our defence tightend up when he started playing fullback and the stats back that up.

Co incidence ?
Just a nice cliche to repeat so you look like you are informed ?

Or inside information from a team mate ?

The defence didn`t suddenly collapse when TMM got injured .

 

[Big Del]

Billy is keeping Turpin out of the side.

TMM could not keep Turpin out of the side.

I rest my case.

Also Billy is above average for the current crop of NRL 9's. He's been an absolute blessing paried with Paix 14 and doing the job. 9 is a position we've currently been below average in until the Walters/Paix combo.

Not a fair comparison .
TMM was injured so couldn`t play in place of Turpin the last cpl of weeks .