NRL 2022 Grand Final Discussion

[Sproj]

Lynch, May, Prestia, Cameron, Treloar, Adams, Shiel, Steele, Saad, Dickson, Hall, O'Meara and many others I'm forgetting. Taranto and Rankine so far this trade period.

The Lions lost all their young stars in one off-season and it took them 5 years to recover.

The Roosters would be in heaven if a draft was brought in, would suit their recruitment style to a tee.

That isn't the point though. Rankine is the only one who is/was a 'kid', the others have all played for years. In fact, Saad is at his third club. At the time O'Meara left, the GC were a basket case. The go home 5 for Brisbane was an anomaly and happened ten years ago.

Turns out though, Horne-Francis from Norths is going back to SA, that's one in your favour. Regardless, there are about 20 draft picks a year and of these, maybe 1 or 2 a year go home. Geelong doesn't pick up kids, they pick up mature or old players. Taranto and Hopper have all been at GWS for years and a mid-age players at a team that's heading downhill, this is common across the league.

Brisbane itself is benefitting by getting Dunkley and Gunston but trades are the AFL version of NRL players moving to another club. Most of the players you've mentioned moving have nothing to do with the draft.

 

[mrslong]

I’m just waiting to be outraged when Cleary gets the CC

 

[Fernando]

Back to back in a canter.

Cleary's kicking game is insane, wish our guys had half of his consistency/patience. Amazing defence for a 7 too.

 

[Santa]

Epic atmosphere for the first 10min. So loud! So many Eels supporters left after half time lol.

 

[Morkel]

Dylan Edwards is at least the one likeable player in that squad.

 

[Cult]

The Panthers should be fined for how they’re wearing those hats. They’re wearing them because they’re supposed to show the sponsor. Wearing them backwards means you can’t see who is on it. Also they’re fuckwits:

 

[Santa]

Alot of other jerseys represented too (even some Tigers ones lol. But I was the only Broncos one

 

[DabigDog]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah Taylan May and he’s still suspended next year

 

[Dash]

That isn't the point though. Rankine is the only one who is/was a 'kid', the others have all played for years. In fact, Saad is at his third club. At the time O'Meara left, the GC were a basket case. The go home 5 for Brisbane was an anomaly and happened ten years ago.

Turns out though, Horne-Francis from Norths is going back to SA, that's one in your favour. Regardless, there are about 20 draft picks a year and of these, maybe 1 or 2 a year go home. Geelong doesn't pick up kids, they pick up mature or old players. Taranto and Hopper have all been at GWS for years and a mid-age players at a team that's heading downhill, this is common across the league.

Brisbane itself is benefitting by getting Dunkley and Gunston but trades are the AFL version of NRL players moving to another club. Most of the players you've mentioned moving have nothing to do with the draft.

My whole point is that the lower teams have to take the risk on young kids, while the top teams swoop in and take the cream from the top. Whether that's 2, 3 or 5 years down the track, the original team never gets to see the benefit of their peak years. In the end it's the same result as the NRL, just with an extra step in between.

Neither system has prevented a handful of teams from dominating for the better part of the last 2 decades.

 

[Browny]

Who got CC I switched to pornhub

 

[holdzy]

Commiserations @ParraMania. I know we won't see you again until the Broncos lose a game, but man it sucks to lose that way.

 

[winslow_wong]

Commiserations @ParraMania. I know we won't see you again until the Broncos lose a game, but man it sucks to lose that way.

I told him parra usually get a flogging in the finals after a big win and he laughed at me.

 

[vertigo]

I told him parra usually get a flogging in the finals after a big win and he laughed at me.

Gotta be in it to lose it.

 

[Sproj]

My whole point is that the lower teams have to take the risk on young kids, while the top teams swoop in and take the cream from the top. Whether that's 2, 3 or 5 years down the track, the original team never gets to see the benefit of their peak years. In the end it's the same result as the NRL, just with an extra step in between.

Neither system has prevented a handful of teams from dominating for the better part of the last 2 decades.

Again, this simply isn't true. Geelong has dominated for a decade and this is very much the exception to the rule.

Outside of that, Richmond rose and has started to fall.

Melbourne was one of those awful, lower teams and they have risen, won the comp last year.

Brisbane was truly awful, not they are finalists for the last four years and look to be the contenders for Geelong's throne next year.

Adelaide was in a GF just a couple of years ago, now they are at the bottom of the ladder. Port Adelaide has risen and fallen.

Collingwood has risen, fallen and risen again.

Sydney has managed to stay relevant but they have not bottomed out as much as some other teams.

GWS even made a GF a couple of years ago.

The Bulldogs have risen, fallen and risen again.

Hawthorn looked unbeatable for about five years, they have fallen badly and they are one of the go to clubs you are talking about.

West Coast was relevant for a long time, they have fallen off a cliff. Fremantle rose fell and has risen again.

Carlton, a go to club have hardly played finals in a decade.

Essendon is one of the biggest destination clubs in the country and they are a basket case, fall out from their PED punishment has actually meant something.

Basically, the only two clubs that have remained at the bottom over the last ten years are Norths and the Gold Coast, both of whom, depending on the Clarkson fiasco, look to be very much on the way up.

Teams that have played prelims in the last decade are almost everyone but Carlton, Essendon, the Gold Coast and Norths. The system works pretty well again, though not perfect.

 

[JayPee]

Credit to the Panthers. No team in the last 20 years was beating that team tonight. Just on another level. Too good.

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

Again, this simply isn't true. Geelong has dominated for a decade and this is very much the exception to the rule.

Outside of that, Richmond rose and has started to fall.

Melbourne was one of those awful, lower teams and they have risen, won the comp last year.

Brisbane was truly awful, not they are finalists for the last four years and look to be the contenders for Geelong's throne next year.

Adelaide was in a GF just a couple of years ago, now they are at the bottom of the ladder. Port Adelaide has risen and fallen.

Collingwood has risen, fallen and risen again.

Sydney has managed to stay relevant but they have not bottomed out as much as some other teams.

GWS even made a GF a couple of years ago.

The Bulldogs have risen, fallen and risen again.

Hawthorn looked unbeatable for about five years, they have fallen badly and they are one of the go to clubs you are talking about.

West Coast was relevant for a long time, they have fallen off a cliff. Fremantle rose fell and has risen again.

Carlton, a go to club have hardly played finals in a decade.

Essendon is one of the biggest destination clubs in the country and they are a basket case, fall out from their PED punishment has actually meant something.

Basically, the only two clubs that have remained at the bottom over the last ten years are Norths and the Gold Coast, both of whom, depending on the Clarkson fiasco, look to be very much on the way up.

Teams that have played prelims in the last decade are almost everyone but Carlton, Essendon, the Gold Coast and Norths. The system works pretty well again, though not perfect.

I like a lot of your input but seriously.....

Take your afl crap to an afl forum... it's forced down our throats enough already, don't need to read about it when I'm on a RUGBY LEAGUE forum about the national RUGBY LEAGUE grand final ffs

 

[Big Pete]

Well, I did predict an improved performance from Parramatta, albeit it was only by a point.

Really though, Penrith were far too good. In the previous encounter, it took Penrith 50 minutes to get on top, here it was all but over after 27 minutes. Parramatta did well to hold out for that long, but once Sorensen crossed, Penrith got to coast on that 18 point lead and add to it when they saw fit.

Penrith were just too strong in the middle. Parramatta tried to match them early but gassed themselves and were on their heels from that point on. It allowed the Panthers to spread the ball and they were rarely forced into error.

I was skeptical of starting Kenny, but this time I felt like Cleary got the most out of him. Instead of having Koroisau replace Leota with Yeo going to prop they had Kenny go flat out for 15 minutes and tackle everything in sight. He was right up there for metres/minute and working in tandem with Leota, Fisher-Harris, Yeo it just gave the Panthers the edge. It worked out perfectly because right as the game was opening up, Koroisau came on just to put the Eels on their haunches.

I thought the opening try to Crichton was a decisive moment. Not only because it was first blood, but because it was down the Panthers right hand-side, meaning the Eels couldn't just set up shop down their left. It was a pretty simple play in the end, with Cleary getting Lane to bite in on him, opening the space up for Crichton back on the inside.

By playing down the right, they were able to get Kikau 1-1 with Moses, which eventually opened up the space for To'o to bag a double.

The Sorensen try was good work from Cleary, but pretty poor defence from Parramatta. Cleary has the best short kicking game of any halfback in the competition, so you have to have somebody (preferably your fullback) dropping back for the grubber.

Unfortunately for the Panthers I feel they're in real trouble after this season. Without Koroisau and Kikau they may only win the minor premiership by one win next year.

For the Eels it's a bittersweet moment. All week they had to manage the expectations of fans that have gone their entire adult lives without tasting premiership success and they've fallen short. Now they head into next year missing a lot of key personnel missing and others entering the back-end of their career. How they manage next season and the year beyond is crucial, but as it stands, this feels like the climax of the story.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

Commiserations @ParraMania. I know we won't see you again until the Broncos lose a game, but man it sucks to lose that way.

Lol you won't see him for awhile.