2024 pre-season discussion: Pre-season Premiers

never understood the fascination of having TPJ play in the middle get him fit get him running wide for 20-30 min a game and have ppl around for support=win i would have thought?
 
Thelmus said:
Leaving is one thing. Herbie, flegler and palasia have all done it, but they didnt slag off the coach and club management along the way. After all, some of the peole you just antagonised might be a future coach/football manager or team mates, and he spread his venom pretty wide here.
I also think if he was half as good as he thinks he is, he could have bagged a bench spot at least, and used it to promote his abilities to other clubs, if nothing else. I also think mam was no certainty to become the full time 5/8 when he left.
Hopefully he learns from it, but if nothing else, it serves as a good example to young players of the difference between being a "potential" star and an actual first grader.
For all the promise, it means nothing until youve made onto the field.
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I think sometimes we forget how young, dumb and chock full of cum these kids are, with Koalapoo being a prime example. He was a just a tot. Give a couple of years for his nuts to drop and he'll look back and cringe at the way he carried on.
 
McHunt said:
I think sometimes we forget how young, dumb and chock full of cum these kids are, with Koalapoo being a prime example. He was a just a tot. Give a couple of years for his nuts to drop and he'll look back and cringe at the way he carried on.
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Maybe. Or, he'll continue to act like an entitled brat to whom the world owes a favour when he hasn't achieved shit in the NRL. Your point is good, unfortunately there's plenty who fit both moulds.
 
Roosters have signed Sam Walker's 16 year old younger brother Tyson. Plays half or fullback. Starting grade 11 at Ipswich Grammar in a few weeks.
 
Xzei said:
never understood the fascination of having TPJ play in the middle get him fit get him running wide for 20-30 min a game and have ppl around for support=win i would have thought?
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Makes sense, but maybe it's seen as a waste of a bench spot for a 20min edge forward? At least with Piakura/Capewell, Capewell could slot into the forwards quite well, but I don't know how many other players can do that (and do it well).

Also, those edge forwards do alot of unnoticed work (kick chase, kick pressure, decoy runs, etc.) - Riki and Capewell do a mountain of this. TPG had the flashy stuff, but if I remember correctly he did have a reputation of sometimes being a but lazy.

Edge defence could be another reason, but I can't remember lol (I've blocked out alot of those years).
 
Santa said:
Makes sense, but maybe it's seen as a waste of a bench spot for a 20min edge forward? At least with Piakura/Capewell, Capewell could slot into the forwards quite well, but I don't know how many other players can do that (and do it well).

Also, those edge forwards do alot of unnoticed work (kick chase, kick pressure, decoy runs, etc.) - Riki and Capewell do a mountain of this. TPG had the flashy stuff, but if I remember correctly he did have a reputation of sometimes being a but lazy.

Edge defence could be another reason, but I can't remember lol (I've blocked out alot of those years).
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He wasn’t great at the fundamental boring aspects of being a pro footy player. Although he was brilliant at creating ad lib attacking moments, he was part of our issues at the time of not being able to play to a point in the field or set up for future plays.

With a smaller role in the team and less minutes, I could see it being less of an issue. Though he could barely stay interested when he was the big dog at the club, I can’t imagine how poor his effort and attitude would be if he knew he was just a role player
 
theshed said:
He wasn’t great at the fundamental boring aspects of being a pro footy player. Although he was brilliant at creating ad lib attacking moments, he was part of our issues at the time of not being able to play to a point in the field or set up for future plays.

With a smaller role in the team and less minutes, I could see it being less of an issue. Though he could barely stay interested when he was the big dog at the club, I can’t imagine how poor his effort and attitude would be if he knew he was just a role player
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He did go alright at the Panthers, though that was only for a couple of months. Longer-term it could definitely be an issue if he hasn't grown up at all.

I doubt it's going to happen but hey, full faith in the powers that be at the club to get it right either way.
 
High hopes for Mozer this year. He hasn't really dominated qcup yet or the under 19s, I remember some pretty ordinary performances from him so here's to hoping this year he dominates that arena and breaks into the bench hooker role. Would love for him to be playing the 50-50 bench role by the end of the year!
 
Manofoneway said:
High hopes for Mozer this year. He hasn't really dominated qcup yet or the under 19s, I remember some pretty ordinary performances from him so here's to hoping this year he dominates that arena and breaks into the bench hooker role. Would love for him to be playing the 50-50 bench role by the end of the year!
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He is going to explode this year.
 
Before anyone asks, this is an old interview:


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Jaiyden Hunt: “It’s a great opportunity. I grew up watching rugby league and went to Broncos games on Friday nights. It’s an unreal experience to be here for the next two years. When I got the call from ‘Kevvie’ it was an exciting moment. He said it was all about hard work and mateship here...
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Footy Fanatic said:
He is going to explode this year.
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He certainly looks bigger and a bit more of a man. Hopefully that will help him deal with the physicality of it all. I just hope the hypetrain doesn't **** him like it did dearden. Kevie is way better than siebold at bringing these young guns through the NRL. Done a marvellous job of keeping the lid on piakura, willison and mariner.
 
The big challenge for Mozer and Kevvie is going to be finding a role for him if he plays NRL.

I thought he was great off the bench in 21 and he complemented. Bryant which was strange in itself because Bryant was much more dynamic, and you would think better off the bench. All season Mozer came on and had a great impact and scored a try in the Grand Final to end the game.

But they had clear roles, and Mccann knew what those roles where and the players knew.

Come 23 and I thought Mozer's "worst" games were off the bench and Souths and Mozer looked clunky and poor with Mozer coming on at half time and seeing out the game.

I don't think the Storm game revealed too much, he only got 24 minutes and was gassed after 10, so as far as bench impact goes not a lot was gained.

He still needs a break in Cup and Eggerling was much better at providing that, but I don't think the break was the issue, it was not playing the whole first half but what would the role be in the NRL.

The disconnect with Paix at Souths made me think what role he could do for the Broncos if he's not starting, I don't think this year is going to be the 70 minutes starting hooker year for Mozer.

But I am not sure the next best option is 20 minutes off the bench.
 
1910 said:
The big challenge for Mozer and Kevvie is going to be finding a role for him if he plays NRL.

I thought he was great off the bench in 21 and he complemented. Bryant which was strange in itself because Bryant was much more dynamic, and you would think better off the bench. All season Mozer came on and had a great impact and scored a try in the Grand Final to end the game.

But they had clear roles, and Mccann knew what those roles where and the players knew.

Come 23 and I thought Mozer's "worst" games were off the bench and Souths and Mozer looked clunky and poor with Mozer coming on at half time and seeing out the game.

I don't think the Storm game revealed too much, he only got 24 minutes and was gassed after 10, so as far as bench impact goes not a lot was gained.

He still needs a break in Cup and Eggerling was much better at providing that, but I don't think the break was the issue, it was not playing the whole first half but what would the role be in the NRL.

The disconnect with Paix at Souths made me think what role he could do for the Broncos if he's not starting, I don't think this year is going to be the 70 minutes starting hooker year for Mozer.

But I am not sure the next best option is 20 minutes off the bench.
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Yea unless there's an injury or things go to hell, I don't see us ruining the Walters/Smoothy combo anytime soon.
 
Santa said:
Yea unless there's an injury or things go to hell, I don't see us ruining the Walters/Smoothy combo anytime soon.
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it will most likely be that till the second half of the season when I think Mozer will really start to question Smoothy, that is what I think will happen, it's clear Mozers ceiling is above both but the position definitely takes time, probably a season to be ahead of Smoothy and maybe even 2-3 over Walters given his improvement, if Hunt drops off can easily see Billy getting the 14 for QLD atm.

if he get's more consistent(talking about Billy) with his darts out of dummy half and getting the ball out rather than hogging it he will get the role imo, that is the only thing holding him back atm from rep roles, because he is sorted elsewhere.

I do feel we are more sorted for Hooker than we have been for a very long time, it has always been a weak spot for us but I don't think that's the case anymore.
 
1910 said:
The big challenge for Mozer and Kevvie is going to be finding a role for him if he plays NRL.

I thought he was great off the bench in 21 and he complemented. Bryant which was strange in itself because Bryant was much more dynamic, and you would think better off the bench. All season Mozer came on and had a great impact and scored a try in the Grand Final to end the game.

But they had clear roles, and Mccann knew what those roles where and the players knew.

Come 23 and I thought Mozer's "worst" games were off the bench and Souths and Mozer looked clunky and poor with Mozer coming on at half time and seeing out the game.

I don't think the Storm game revealed too much, he only got 24 minutes and was gassed after 10, so as far as bench impact goes not a lot was gained.

He still needs a break in Cup and Eggerling was much better at providing that, but I don't think the break was the issue, it was not playing the whole first half but what would the role be in the NRL.

The disconnect with Paix at Souths made me think what role he could do for the Broncos if he's not starting, I don't think this year is going to be the 70 minutes starting hooker year for Mozer.

But I am not sure the next best option is 20 minutes off the bench.
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its not the best option....he neefs a Mam noment. Mam stank it up in Qcup. Got a chance in the bigs. smashed it . C9 got a chance smashed it. Mozer needs to get thrown in. I suspect KW knows that

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Broncorob said:
its not the best option....he neefs a Mam noment. Mam stank it up in Qcup. Got a chance in the bigs. smashed it . C9 got a chance smashed it. Mozer needs to get thrown in. I suspect KW knows that

cream rises
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I can agree with this, sometimes the talent needs luck to be put in their rightful position, I do think given his playing style we will not see his best unless he starts.

This will be a tough challenge for Kevvie I think, hurt your sons career who has been clearly on the up against a player who could be a future great.
 
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