VOTE Anthony Seibold Discussion

[broncsgoat]

Seibold had already signed with the club for a month by that point and the best criticism he offered was that he was a rookie which I noted.

If you dig further, he was happy for Bennett to quit coaching when his contract was up.

You may even come across a post where he says he doesn't care who the coach is for 2019.



Yeah I'm done.

Had we already started losing in december 2018?

I find it fucking hilarious that I spent all of last year saying he was a hack, and argued against, but now I'm being argued with whether i called him a hack early enough.

Really shows I was right in my assertions imo.

 

[broncsgoat]

Here's another from broncsgoat:

Seibold doesn’t have the neccesary fortitude to coach the broncos. He has shown himself to be not worthy.

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[Big Pete]

Actually I did dig a little deeper and he was critical of Seibold before he was signed but had been spoken about.

I've yet to see anything to suggest this. Seibold signed in October of 2018, the posts you provided were from December.

The fact is goat was strong in his condemnation and so far he's been right and the rest of you wrong.

Calling the coach a rookie is hardly strong condemnation. The only criticism he had was over Seibold's response to the switch, there was nothing about his actual coaching ability.

A lot of us wanted to see Bennett see out his contract and raised our concerns with Seibold, we just didn't bang on about it in every thread and then try to give ourselves a pack on the back 18 months after the fact. We'd rather see our club do well than revel in their failure.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

This goat bloke sure knows how to get everyone talking about him

YES. WHY.

 

[lynx000]

Anything to the effect of 'we shouldn't sign this bloke' would have sufficed.

Face it goat, you're just like the rest of us mere mortals.

That is so disappointing, after I had accepted his self-proclaimed (repeatedly and vehemently) status as Nostradamus, I haven't been this shattered since I found out last year that Santa isn't real.

 

[lynx000]

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Where can I buy that goat, and that lawn by the way.

 

[Big Pete]

That is so disappointing, after I had accepted his self-proclaimed (repeatedly and vehemently) status as Nostradamus, I haven't been this shattered since I found out last year that Santa isn't real.

Yeah, but Seibold leaked what Bennett was doing behind the scenes so he didn't have the mental fortitude to be coach.

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Another 'strong condemnation from goat' a thread in October, not a peep till April.

Sums it up really.

 

[lynx000]

I still dream of the tooth fairy. So frickin hot!

Yes, well, how is the therapy going about that?

 

[lynx000]

They just suggested I swap hands occasionally.

Yes, good advice that, you were starting to look like Popeye.

 

[Huge]

I've yet to see anything to suggest this. Seibold signed in October of 2018, the posts you provided were from December.



Calling the coach a rookie is hardly strong condemnation. The only criticism he had was over Seibold's response to the switch, there was nothing about his actual coaching ability.

A lot of us wanted to see Bennett see out his contract and raised our concerns with Seibold, we just didn't bang on about it in every thread and then try to give ourselves a pack on the back 18 months after the fact. We'd rather see our club do well than revel in their failure.

October November December? What does it matter? He said he doesn't have the ability to do the job, before a ball was kicked. Did you not read the two quotes? He didn't just call him a rookie. He said he wasn't worthy and he didn't have the fortitude to coach the Broncos and nothing Seibold has done has proven him wrong. He also said Seibold was a 'nobody' which is hardly just calling him a rookie. Just admit it, he was right...so far. Also I think a little acknowledgement would go a long way. I can relate as the same thing happened to me years ago as a lone voice shouted down but proven correct later on. Mind you I didn't beat the same drum relentlessly which admittedly goat has over the last 18 months.

Seibold doesn’t have the neccesary fortitude to coach the broncos. He has shown himself to be not worthy.

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[Dexter]

So by me saying we should stick by the existing coach it doesn't say we shouldnt sign this bloke?


Ok.

A whole lot of people preferred to stick with Wayne you are the only one who keeps going on and on and on about it.
Every fucking post mate .
8m with pete , done and ignored

 

[lynx000]

October November December? What does it matter? He said he doesn't have the ability to do the job, before a ball was kicked. Did you not read the two quotes? He didn't just call him a rookie. He said he wasn't worthy and he didn't have the fortitude to coach the Broncos and nothing Seibold has done has proven him wrong. He also said Seibold was a 'nobody' which is hardly just calling him a rookie. Just admit it, he was right...so far. Also I think a little acknowledgement would go a long way. I can relate as the same thing happened to me years ago as a lone voice shouted down but proven correct later on. Mind you I didn't beat the same drum relentlessly which admittedly goat has over the last 18 months.

Seibold doesn’t have the neccesary fortitude to coach the broncos. He has shown himself to be not worthy.

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You certainly pick some weird hills to die on. I still say that it is far too early to make a definitive call about that, but the evidence is mounting in favour of the Goat, Abashii, Accept etc camp.

Is Goat actually Danny Nutley, in which case the passionate defence makes perfect sense?

 

[Huge]

You certainly pick some weird hills to die on. I still say that it is far too early to make a definitive call about that, but the evidence is mounting in favour of the Goat, Abashii, Accept etc camp.

Is Goat actually Danny Nutley, in which case the passionate defence makes perfect sense?

Oh, you appear to have misunderstood. I always thought two years was about the right amount of time to make a fair assessment but Seibold hasn't improved us yet. I know an argument can be made to say he has but certainly not our results support an improvement. Two years ago the Broncos decided to change and surely that was to improve but the opposite has happened so it cannot be considered anything but failure. At this time.

 

[lynx000]

Oh, you appear to have misunderstood. I always thought two years was about the right amount of time to make a fair assessment but Seibold hasn't improved us yet. I know an argument can be made to say he has but certainly not our results support an improvement. Two years ago the Broncos decided to change and surely that was to improve but the opposite has happened so it cannot be considered anything but failure. At this time.

Yes, I would agree with that assessment, made on that basis. Do you agree that given that Seibold made the 8 last year, and it is seven games into a vastly disrupted season where the club has once again experienced significant injuries and suspensions with a young squad, with a significant rule change made after the season commenced, that it would be premature to sack him?


Otherwise we risk becoming one of those clubs (like Tigers and Panthers) that have revolving door coaching staff.

 

[Jason Simmons]

I was initially excited about Seibold coming, he seemed like the fresh breeze through the club we needed.

Turns out he was a foul stench coming in. Now do we need another fresh breeze? lol

 

[lynx000]

I was initially excited about Seibold coming, he seemed like the fresh breeze through the club we needed.

Turns out he was a foul stench coming in. Now do we need another fresh breeze? lol

Possibly, but it is still too early to make that call, and the available options are not great. If they are going to go for a rookie coach again, I think it has to be Fitzgibbon down the track.

 

[Jason Simmons]

Possibly, but it is still too early to make that call, and the available options are not great. If they are going to go for a rookie coach again, I think it has to be Fitzgibbon down the track.

The 3 coaches beside Wayne we have tried have all been rookie coaches. How has that worked out for us?

 

[Huge]

Yes, I would agree with that assessment, made on that basis. Do you agree that given that Seibold made the 8 last year, and it is seven games into a vastly disrupted season where the club has once again experienced significant injuries and suspensions with a young squad, with a significant rule change made after the season commenced, that it would be premature to sack him?


Otherwise we risk becoming one of those clubs (like Tigers and Panthers) that have revolving door coaching staff.

Yes, premature. I just can't shake the notion I have that regardless of the standard of players a coach has, a team which can successfully complete the most basic level of performance should be a given.

Back when I played snooker and was competing in the highest grade in Australia everyone who entered a tournament could knock in a century in practice. It was a given, it was standard and when I speak of my disappointment in the current coach it's because we don't, we aren't achieving 'the standard'. The standard is not Melbourne or the Roosters, it's the run of the mill teams that make up the bulk of our competition and Seibold hasn't shown me that he can get a team to achieve the standard.

To be honest I haven't seen anything new or innovative or even close to a standard ISC game let alone the NRL standard. I was hoping we'd see a few trick shots or a cloning of Melbourne's style or the relentless style of the Roosters but nothing. At times it looks like a bunch of guys with just a rough understanding of the game. We look so clunky and he's had 18 months to at least achieve a steady performance.