VOTE Anthony Seibold Discussion

[lynx000]

The 3 coaches beside Wayne we have tried have all been rookie coaches. How has that worked out for us?

Mate, if you read back over my posts you will find I have said that the last thing that they should do is appoint a rookie coach again, but if they are going to go down that path (which was the point of my post, there appears to be only one choice). I think the pick would be Bellamy or Robinson, and they are not going to get either. I don't like Stewart, and I don't rate Cleary. There really is not much choice available re experienced coaches.

 

[Rico]

October November December? What does it matter? He said he doesn't have the ability to do the job, before a ball was kicked. Did you not read the two quotes? He didn't just call him a rookie. He said he wasn't worthy and he didn't have the fortitude to coach the Broncos and nothing Seibold has done has proven him wrong. He also said Seibold was a 'nobody' which is hardly just calling him a rookie. Just admit it, he was right...so far. Also I think a little acknowledgement would go a long way. I can relate as the same thing happened to me years ago as a lone voice shouted down but proven correct later on. Mind you I didn't beat the same drum relentlessly which admittedly goat has over the last 18 months.

Seibold doesn’t have the neccesary fortitude to coach the broncos. He has shown himself to be not worthy.

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two facts to come out of all this. ...
-The Goats legacy on here (should he take another hiatus) would be holding his line on Seibold. The guy never did waiver from his views.
- If anyone wants to go nose to nose with brother Huge, get your facts right, he is one researched bastard.
ok, fact three, I’ve probably disagreed with these blokes more than other BHQ members but fairs fair.

 

[lynx000]

Yes, premature. I just can't shake the notion I have that regardless of the standard of players a coach has, a team which can successfully complete the most basic level of performance should be a given.

Back when I played snooker and was competing in the highest grade in Australia everyone who entered a tournament could knock in a century in practice. It was a given, it was standard and when I speak of my disappointment in the current coach it's because we don't, we aren't achieving 'the standard'. The standard is not Melbourne or the Roosters, it's the run of the mill teams that make up the bulk of our competition and Seibold hasn't shown me that he can get a team to achieve the standard.

To be honest I haven't seen anything new or innovative or even close to a standard ISC game let alone the NRL standard. I was hoping we'd see a few trick shots or a cloning of Melbourne's style or the relentless style of the Roosters but nothing. At times it looks like a bunch of guys with just a rough understanding of the game. We look so clunky and he's had 18 months to at least achieve a steady performance.

Yes, once again I agree, and that is what he has to get the team starting to show. If he doesn't succeed in that, it becomes a fait accompli that he will be history, along with his head coaching career. Whatever the disconnect is, he has to locate it, remedy it, and have the team showing some progress very quickly. His window of opportunity is fast closing.

 

[NSW stables]

Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that they always say we train really well but the results arent coming?

Have they maybe thought the reason our attack appears decent at training is because it is against our shitty defence, or our defence is ok against our shitty attack?

 

[Alec]

Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that they always say we train really well but the results arent coming?

Have they maybe thought the reason our attack appears decent at training is because it is against our shitty defence, or our defence is ok against our shitty attack?

****, this actually makes sense.

 

[Harry Sack]

Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that they always say we train really well but the results arent coming?

Have they maybe thought the reason our attack appears decent at training is because it is against our shitty defence, or our defence is ok against our shitty attack?

 

[Huge]

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Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that they always say we train really well but the results arent coming?

Have they maybe thought the reason our attack appears decent at training is because it is against our shitty defence, or our defence is ok against our shitty attack?

I want them to slow down a little and work on timing and control. I'd get it into their heads that initially I don't want speed but demand control. I think Seibold is wrong and right at the same time. He's right about game simulation and fatigue etc but for me, he's going about it the wrong way with his youngsters. The old crawl, walk thing.

If he had more mature heads out there he could use his current approach but I think we need to rehearse at reduced speed until the team achieves a fluency building up as we become less clunky.

As Two Set say, if you can play it slowly you can play it fast. Practice more deliberately and then fluency and control come with a slowly increasing rhythm. I'd love to disrupt the defences rhythm with a slower, almost stop start approach. A bit like when a team is up by 4 in the last 60 seconds and they get a fullset of six, nice and slow, safe and secure. Sure that's an exaggerated example and of course not exactly like that but slower and with control particularly on the fifth.

 

[Foordy]

I still dream of the tooth fairy. So frickin hot!

this one?

 

[Jedhead]

Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that they always say we train really well but the results arent coming?

Have they maybe thought the reason our attack appears decent at training is because it is against our shitty defence, or our defence is ok against our shitty attack?

Pies should give them the whole week off next week even if they lose tomorrow night. It's obvious they need a break to let them catch up on their social media accounts.

 

[Wolfie]

IIRC i think i wasnt over bothered about Seibs when he signed, but fairly early on in our campaign i started to have huge doubts about him.

 

[rnabokov]

IIRC i think i wasnt over bothered about Seibs when he signed, but fairly early on in our campaign i started to have huge doubts about him.

I was ok with Seibs after Rd 2 this year. That is no longer the case since he has done nothing to fix our shitty defence. He has a few games left to show he can truly coach.

 

[Huge]

I was ok with Seibs after Rd 2 this year. That is no longer the case since he has done nothing to fix our shitty defence. He has a few games left to show he can truly coach.

I think he's got this season to prove himself. I cannot see the board admitting they pulled the wrong rein. There must be a strong revival to give him a third season I believe.

I know it doesn't unsettle other teams as much but some guys at our club are on the lowest rates while others earn (really?) a fortune for very little output.

A bloke like Haas is expected to keep putting in huge efforts for the same cash as a part timer like Offa and I think it's getting to him. The wildly different pay scale is likely at the heart of the alleged discontent.

 

[rnabokov]

I think he's got this season to prove himself. I cannot see the board admitting they pulled the wrong rein. There must be a strong revival to give him a third season I believe.

I know it doesn't unsettle other teams as much but some guys at our club are on the lowest rates while others earn (really?) a fortune for very little output.

A bloke like Haas is expected to keep putting in huge efforts for the same cash as a part timer like Offa and I think it's getting to him. The wildly different pay scale is likely at the heart of the alleged discontent.

For me, he has 2 - 3 games to show, as head coach, that he recognizes defence is our major weakness, and that became apparent in Rd 3. It is now Rd 8. I have seen nothing yet to show he has done anything to change how we defend. That is not good coaching. For me he is on thin ice. **** what the Board thinks.

As for your observation about pay packets, you're probably right. However, Seibold is coaching footballers, not accountants

 

[Gaz]

We are all being analytical and critical but we shouldn’t have to be. It’s his job to get things right and ours to sit back and enjoy.

He’s either a coach that can see what’s wrong but won’t fix it or a coach that can’t see what’s wrong so can’t fix it.

Said he needed five years to improve our footy team, I was happy to go on that journey with him as long as I saw regular improvement along the way.

Thats not happening.

Perhaps he needed that time to improve himself instead.

To me he’s a bit like a gardner who has planted some seeds and although madly watering - nothings coming up.

 

[heartly87]

I think a lot has been lost in the media beat up over the Broncos poor form. They went in hard as they could. Absolutely hammering us and very hard on Seibs since we lost our first game post covid. Other teams just get a free ride, they don't even acknowledge our injuries to key players. The penalties and rub of the green has not gone our way and I think it is all just pilling up at red hill. The boys and Seibs have to look themselves in the mirror and accept it has been not good enough on their end. They have to go the extra % to overcome the refs and the media beat ups, they need to become a clinical hard edged team.

Here we are dredging up the old WB vs Seibs arguments on the forum. Well just have a look at at Souths. As of today they have won exactly one more game then us this year. They are not performing up to standard at all. The talent of that team as it is. You could actually say since WB has taken over they have gone backwards. But the media are not all over them are they. WB is now not so bashed in the media as he was as Broncos head coach, he has gone from a liar and manipulator to the master tactician, a wizard of head games.

Maybe Siebs does need some more time to further cut out the tumors of Boyd and few other hard to excise metastasis. I just don't see how ditching Seibs is going to help at this stage. I am not happy with his current form either. He needs to nut up and start becoming more animated, more emotional and less controlled . He seems to be holding himself back, he just wants to be clinical and respectful. The media is not with him so he should not be with them. Would love to see him come down from the Box this weekend, like Ricky and just be part of the contest, feel the win or loss down there with the team. How good would it be to break a losing streak and your down there to take part in the joy. Thats what I would do, get my self out of my own comfort zone and get out their and live.

If anyone has line to the club and agrees send a message to get that man out of the box.

 

[rnabokov]

I think a lot has been lost in the media beat up over the Broncos poor form. They went in hard as they could. Absolutely hammering us and very hard on Seibs since we lost our first game post covid. Other teams just get a free ride, they don't even acknowledge our injuries to key players. The penalties and rub of the green has not gone our way and I think it is all just pilling up at red hill. The boys and Seibs have to look themselves in the mirror and accept it has been not good enough on their end. They have to go the extra % to overcome the refs and the media beat ups, they need to become a clinical hard edged team.

Here we are dredging up the old WB vs Seibs arguments on the forum. Well just have a look at at Souths. As of today they have won exactly one more game then us this year. They are not performing up to standard at all. The talent of that team as it is. You could actually say since WB has taken over they have gone backwards. But the media are not all over them are they. WB is now not so bashed in the media as he was as Broncos head coach, he has gone from a liar and manipulator to the master tactician, a wizard of head games.

Maybe Siebs does need some more time to further cut out the tumors of Boyd and few other hard to excise metastasis. I just don't see how ditching Seibs is going to help at this stage. I am not happy with his current form either. He needs to nut up and start becoming more animated, more emotional and less controlled . He seems to be holding himself back, he just wants to be clinical and respectful. The media is not with him so he should not be with them. Would love to see him come down from the Box this weekend, like Ricky and just be part of the contest, feel the win or loss down there with the team. How good would it be to break a losing streak and your down there to take part in the joy. Thats what I would do, get my self out of my own comfort zone and get out their and live.

If anyone has line to the club and agrees send a message to get that man out of the box.

What a great post, and not a single spelling misstake eether

 

[Sproj]

Who has improved since he’s been here?

What structures has he implemented?

Am I hearing crickets?

Who has regressed? Now we need some time. That says a lot.

 

[rnabokov]

Who has improved since he’s been here?

What structures has he implemented?

Am I hearing crickets?

Who has regressed? Now we need some time. That says a lot.

Well, as one of Seibold's harshest critics I still think some perspective is in order as @heartly87 posted above.

That perspective might, again, be fruitful if one looks at Brad Arthur's history with the Eels. His first 3 years there were not exactly inspiring, and he led the Eels to the wooden spoon in 2018.

For mine, Seibold does need to show something over the next few rounds, mainly improvements to our defence, and also, to see how the team goes with our full side on the paddock