Anthony Seibold is no longer our coach

broncsgoat said:
I think there's just a few salty people upset that they were wrong.
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I don't think anyone is upset with Seibold being gone. But him being gone doesn't immediately fix any of the underlying issues at the club. Those issues run deeper than just Seibold. But it seems that you are the only one here that cannot see that.
 
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I'm assuming the players have already thrown away their notepads for the notepads sessions.
 
lynx000 said:
No, not at all, just making a prescient judgment about you, but you do you and continue on your merry path. When are you going to go and `support' (I use that term in the broadest extent possible) another club?
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December 2, 2018
 
I do think it needs to be said, after watching Seibold this morning it's absolutely abundantly clear that he came here with the absolute best intentions and quite clearly left nothing on the table when it came to trying to achieve the best results possible. The emotional investment he obviously had in the place is all over his face and it's obviously quite devastating to fail at something you were so determined and worked so hard to succeed at.

In the end, his best was obviously a very, very long way from good enough and for that reason he simply had to go. That said, at the absolute minimum I can still appreciate the man giving it everything he had and failing in the execution, not through a lack of effort or giving it the best shot he was capable of.

People fail in life and need to be accountable for that failure, but provided they've tried their very best then I do think they can be proud of that integrity and commitment and as a fan of the club I can at least say I appreciate Seibold's obvious willingness to try and make the club a batter place even if it didn't work out.
 
soup said:
I’m disgraced by those of you who are still sticking the boot in to AS. Absolutely pathetic. **** you very much.

I personally believe AS was the right coach at the wrong time. Following WB is always a poisoned chalice as every coach in that position has shown.

I honestly believe that AS did his absolute best, but he wasn’t the right bloke for the job at the time. It’s not like he was sitting on his hands.

All the best Anthony to you and your family. You’ve made the right decision; family always comes first.
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I have to admit that I thought initially that he was a breath of fresh air for the club, but I also have to admit that I was sucked in by his rhetoric and ability to 'talk' a good game.

He was never the right coach for any time.

As 1910 explained he came across as knowing what was what, but when push came to shove as a head coach he was clueless. Again, as 1910 explained his methods from day one ostracized almost every player on the roster. It was only a matter of time before the whole thing fell in a heap.

Sure, we still have huge problems to deal with. The board needs sorted as it was their fault that the contract was written up in such a fashion. Following Benny need not have been such a burden if the board had comprised of leaders who knew shit from clay. It's quite obvious they didn't.

But the amount of damage Siebold has done to the younger brigade is still unknown. We do know that Fifita was willing to ditch his mates to get away from the quantum physics game plans that were being pushed at him.

In short, a nice guy but way out of his depth as a head coach. I said months ago that he should be thinking of his family and resigning. I felt awkward during his aftergame pressers I can't imagine how his wife and kids felt. So, I think for all and sundry it best he got out of Dodge ASAP.
 
broncsgoat said:
I think there's just a few salty people upset that they were wrong.
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Who gives a **** if you were right or wrong? O thought Seibold would be a good coach, I was wrong.

You were right, congratulations you were right, your reward is a destroyed football team.

What kind of pathetic piece of shit looks for validation about being right from anonymous dickheads on the internet, especially at the expense of his team.
 
lynx000 said:
I don't believe he is a broncos fan.
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Based on what, not wanting Seibold as coach? I didn't want him here from fairly early on too, nor did many others. What gives you and Foordy the special insight required to work out which of the Broncos supporters posting about the Broncos on Broncos HQ are actually bona fide Broncos fans?
 
I don't see his comment as any better than some of the rumours. At the end of the day, AS is still a human being. To know that, and discount that openly in public is pretty gross, and would take someone with no shame to do it because what was posted a few pages back is pretty despicable.

But this isn't a time to unload on the members of this website, nor is it a time to question who is and isn't a Broncos fan. It is one of the weirdest flexes on sports communities, this "I'm a bigger fan than you" bullshit. No one cares, really. We are here for discussion on the team, and it doesn't matter if that discussion comes from a Broncos fan, or a Tigers fan, or a Cowboys fan. Play the ball, not the poster.
 
abashii said:
Based on what, not wanting Seibold as coach? I didn't want him here from fairly early on too, nor did many others. What gives you and Foordy the special insight required to work out which of the Broncos supporters posting about the Broncos on Broncos HQ are actually bona fide Broncos fans?
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What does it matter to you what I think and who appointed you as the Goat protector? I base my judgment on the fact that unless it relates to Milford or Bennett (and then only being supportive of those individuals) his posting history is one of overwhelmingly negativity and dragging threads off point. I would struggle to find a positive post from him unless it was related to Milford. That is my view, it is an honestly held view so I think I will end the discussion here.
 
broncos4life said:
Who gives a **** if you were right or wrong? O thought Seibold would be a good coach, I was wrong.

You were right, congratulations you were right, your reward is a destroyed football team.

What kind of pathetic piece of shit looks for validation about being right from anonymous dickheads on the internet, especially at the expense of his team.
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See I've been called a piece of shit about 4 times in this thread now for voicing my very valid opinion - so I'm going to push back.
 
For what it's worth, the call to move Wayne on if it gave us Bellamy was absolutely spot on at the time and I think even Bennett would acknowledge that was probably impartially speaking the best possible outcome for the club long term.

Where it all fell away to shit was White, Lockyer and Co completely screwing the pooch on securing Bellamy, then seemingly out of ego or God know's what, still expecting to shove Wayne out the door anyway. The man could quite likely have accepted being moved on for the best Coach in the game, but to insist he had to go so he could be replaced by Seibold, or even Walters for that matter, well that's another prospect entirely and Wayne was absolutely right to take that personally and as an insult to him.

The next critical error was not vetting the new Coaching options available at the time. White obviously missed Demetriou's interview and Lockyer was set to miss Walters until the last minute. For whatever reason they were not attending the interviews, entirely reasonable or otherwise, he candidates should never have been given an option to be interviewed by anything less than the full panel, however long that took to accommodate. If the club entrusted those three guys to make the most critical staffing appointment in the entire club, they should not have proceeded until all panel members had interviewed all the top candidates.

The final nail in the coffin of abjectly poor management was the contract itself. 5-6 years is an absurdly generous contract in head Coaching terms. Only an incredibly small percentage of Head Coach appointments last that long or longer, and the Broncos were so badly up against the odds to think they could beat that law of averages that it was bordering on downright arrogance. If your surname is Bellamy, or Robinson, or maybe Ricky Stuart, I could accept a 5 year term as fair enough, but for overwhelming majority of Coaches, anything over three years is just so likely to end in tears for one party or both that it's basically just reckless to be handing them out. We'd be laughing if a poorly run club made that sort of mistake, but for a club with the supposed prudent and sound corporate governance that made us the best club in the game for many years, such a reckless failure of our own making is simply inexcusable.

So two and a half years on from making the call on Bennett, it's fair to ask if we'd have been better off just leaving Bennett where he was. In most areas, I think the answer is probably yes, but I'm still not sure the difference would be all that great. Bennett oversaw monumental finals collapses in 2017 and 2018 long before Seibold gave us the Parramatta debacle. In that sense I think Bennett would currently have us arguably no closer to a Premiership than Seibold has, unless you consider running 6-8 for the year and copping a first round finals drubbing as being closer to a Premiership than we are right now, which I supposed technically it is, but in practicality it arguably hurts just as bad for the fans as the mess we have right now.

I also think in Bennett we'd have seen less player turnover and probably less of our young players breaking into the regular 17 each week. We'd probably still have journeymen like Te'o and Luke, as Bennett has always loved a few old journeymen in his sides. So it could be argued that Seibold may have worn some pain so that long term our young guys will be more experienced footballers sooner overall.

For me, this is the crux of the problem and why I'm so displeased with the club management. They made what I feel was a bold call to go for the best Coach in the game in Bellamy, especially as they had to gamble on calling time on Wayne Bennett. It's ironically the same kind of boldness Bennett often showed himself when moving on ageing stars so the next ones could take their place. The difference here though is that Bennett usually always had his incoming man first before he moved to push the outgoing man out. Our board and management monumentally failed in this regard and to be honest I think for all the strong financial success we achieved under the current management, their legacy overall is their failure to ensure a smooth transition of a crucial figure like Bennett to the best possible replacement in Bellamy, and then allowing their ego to dictate their actions from that point on, which ripped out a big chunk of the soul of the club that will take a very, very long time to recover, if it ever recovers at all.
 
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McHunt said:
Just got a text from a friend who only has a passing interest in footy: "what's going on with the Broncos?"

How do you answer that?
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Send him a Youtube link for those Russian car crash videos. I'm sure that'll give him the picture.
 
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