Australia vs India - Test Series

[ZTop]

Why are we just plodding away. Score quickly and get India back out there

 

[Sproj]

Why are we just plodding away. Score quickly and get India back out there

I think they are doing two things:

1. Trying to get the lead to 300 and then accelerate.
2. Bat time, try to get a declaration in an hour before tea with a lead of about 350.

 

[Browny]

And burn their bowlers out a bit more as well

 

[Sproj]

I wonder if Wade might get a bit of an ultimatum - perform in the next test or your test career is likely over and we will go in a different direction from the next series, whether it be Head, McDermott, Solway or someone else.

I'd also be considering moving on from Paine too. If Inglis can back up his Shield start in the second half of the season, I'd be considering going with him or even Carey, though I really rate Inglis and Phillipe.

 

[BroncsFan]

Why are we just plodding away. Score quickly and get India back out there

I think they'll accelerate after lunch.

Likely looking for a declaration sometime in the hour before tea.

I like a declaration to leave a 30-40min batting period before tea:
- difficult little period for the openers
- batting team has spent half the day in the field whilst your bowlers have had their feet up
- new ball period before tea and the ball is still reasonably new after tea to go again
- second new ball should be timed around 2nd session of day 5

 

[The True King]

I wonder if Wade might get a bit of an ultimatum - perform in the next test or your test career is likely over and we will go in a different direction from the next series, whether it be Head, McDermott, Solway or someone else.

I'd also be considering moving on from Paine too. If Inglis can back up his Shield start in the second half of the season, I'd be considering going with him or even Carey, though I really rate Inglis and Phillipe.

Agree on both points.

That said I think it's unlikely the selectors look at alternatives for Paine for the time being. Aside from Labu, Smith and Warner there has been plenty of chopping and changing in our batting order. One thing our selectors crave is stability, especially while the young guns settle in.

I also think Paine has alot of credit in the bank with the general public for his leadership of our culture post-sandpaper gate. He's getting on in age and there has to be a succession plan at some point but opening the can of worms about our next captain isn't on the agenda this summer.

For now it's easier to leave the selection spotlight on our #5 and deal with ousting Paine next summer.

 

[Bull Shark]

Ashwin is going to destroy us again

 

[Sproj]

Agree on both points.

That said I think it's unlikely the selectors look at alternatives for Paine for the time being. Aside from Labu, Smith and Warner there has been plenty of chopping and changing in our batting order. One thing our selectors crave is stability, especially while the young guns settle in.

I also think Paine has alot of credit in the bank with the general public for his leadership of our culture post-sandpaper gate. He's getting on in age and there has to be a succession plan at some point but opening the can of worms about our next captain isn't on the agenda this summer.

For now it's easier to leave the selection spotlight on our #5 and deal with ousting Paine next summer.

Yeah I think you are right about Paine and he is very likeable. There is no real rush to replace him currently and as you mentioned, particularly while Covs and Green are settling in to the side.

I'd suggest that if Wade fails next test, the COVID times squad moving forward will be:

1. Warner
2. Pucovski
3. Labs
4. Smith
5. Head
6. Green
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

12. Harris
13. McDermott
14. Inglis
15. Carey
16. Maxwell
17. J.Richardson
18. Neser
19. Pattinson
20. Swepson

 

[BroncsFan]

I wonder if Wade might get a bit of an ultimatum - perform in the next test or your test career is likely over and we will go in a different direction from the next series, whether it be Head, McDermott, Solway or someone else.

I'd also be considering moving on from Paine too. If Inglis can back up his Shield start in the second half of the season, I'd be considering going with him or even Carey, though I really rate Inglis and Phillipe.

Agree on both points.

That said I think it's unlikely the selectors look at alternatives for Paine for the time being. Aside from Labu, Smith and Warner there has been plenty of chopping and changing in our batting order. One thing our selectors crave is stability, especially while the young guns settle in.

I also think Paine has alot of credit in the bank with the general public for his leadership of our culture post-sandpaper gate. He's getting on in age and there has to be a succession plan at some point but opening the can of worms about our next captain isn't on the agenda this summer.

For now it's easier to leave the selection spotlight on our #5 and deal with ousting Paine next summer.

Just wondering where the contenders for keeper are currently batting for their state sides and who is regarded as the best gloveman of the next generation?

Carey - Was considered the heir apparent, but I'm not sure if his hands are anywhere near Paine's level. Might still be considered sufficient by world standards though. His batting can be a bit iffy as well, but I've only seen him coming in late in ODI's so not going to judge him on that

Inglis - Have heard his keeping is pretty good, but wondering what the thoughts are of those in the know? Also where does he bat for WA

Phillipe - Surprised he hasn't used his BBL profile to move away from WA and get a starting keeper role... Are his hands considered suspect?? Does he bat in their shield team?

They seem to be the contenders, but it would be nice if one of them bats somewhere in the middle order (gives confidence that their shield team consider them within the top 5/6 batters available).

I think the selectors will likely go with Carey after Paine, unless one of the other contenders has a massive year with the bat

 

[The True King]

Yeah I think you are right about Paine and he is very likeable. There is no real rush to replace him currently and as you mentioned, particularly while Covs and Green are settling in to the side.

I'd suggest that if Wade fails next test, the COVID times squad moving forward will be:

1. Warner
2. Pucovski
3. Labs
4. Smith
5. Head
6. Green
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

12. Harris
13. McDermott
14. Inglis
15. Carey
16. Maxwell
17. J.Richardson
18. Neser
19. Pattinson
20. Swepson

Hmm .. I have no clue what we do in that middle order. I agree with Broncsfan, Green is definitely good enough to bat at #5.

If Wade fails next test I think Head has to be there and persevered with. No other serious contenders at this point. Maybe Maxwell, but the selectors have shown they don't rate him in this format. He could suffice for the Ashes though.

Just wondering where the contenders for keeper are currently batting for their state sides and who is regarded as the best gloveman of the next generation?

Carey - Was considered the heir apparent, but I'm not sure if his hands are anywhere near Paine's level. Might still be considered sufficient by world standards though. His batting can be a bit iffy as well, but I've only seen him coming in late in ODI's so not going to judge him on that

Inglis - Have heard his keeping is pretty good, but wondering what the thoughts are of those in the know? Also where does he bat for WA

Phillipe - Surprised he hasn't used his BBL profile to move away from WA and get a starting keeper role... Are his hands considered suspect?? Does he bat in their shield team?

They seem to be the contenders, but it would be nice if one of them bats somewhere in the middle order (gives confidence that their shield team consider them within the top 5/6 batters available).

I think the selectors will likely go with Carey after Paine, unless one of the other contenders has a massive year with the bat

Can't answer as to where they bat for their respective states in shield but Inglis has definitely improved the most in the last 12 months. He's averaging 100+ in the shield this season and there's now not much between his FC career average and Carey's. Phillippe is comfortably behind the other two.

In terms of glovework I'd would say Inglis is the best.

 

[Sproj]

Just wondering where the contenders for keeper are currently batting for their state sides and who is regarded as the best gloveman of the next generation?

Carey - Was considered the heir apparent, but I'm not sure if his hands are anywhere near Paine's level. Might still be considered sufficient by world standards though. His batting can be a bit iffy as well, but I've only seen him coming in late in ODI's so not going to judge him on that

Inglis - Have heard his keeping is pretty good, but wondering what the thoughts are of those in the know? Also where does he bat for WA

Phillipe - Surprised he hasn't used his BBL profile to move away from WA and get a starting keeper role... Are his hands considered suspect?? Does he bat in their shield team?

They seem to be the contenders, but it would be nice if one of them bats somewhere in the middle order (gives confidence that their shield team consider them within the top 5/6 batters available).

I think the selectors will likely go with Carey after Paine, unless one of the other contenders has a massive year with the bat

I think Carey bats about 6/7 and Inglis tends to bat 7, sometimes 8. Phillipe has played as a specialist bat mainly around 5 I think.

 

[The True King]

I think Carey bats about 6/7 and Inglis tends to bat 7, sometimes 8. Phillipe has played as a specialist bat mainly around 5 I think.

They are all very similar in terms of the numbers. On the balance of probabilities I would say Carey gets first crack at it.

One of the big reasons I like Inglis is that he was born in England. Nothing would be more ironic than watching an English-born and South African-born pair (Inglis and Labu) hit the winning runs in an Ashes series. The UK media would go into meltdown and it would be immensely satisfying.

 

[ZTop]

Sure there was something on the snicko when it went past the bat

 

[Sproj]

Boy I don't know, that sounded like two noises to me.

 

[Sproj]

Well I hope this might free Green up now because when he is set and then accelerates with the lower order, I reckon he is at his best.

 

[ZTop]

Indians getting up and about after getting Smith out for 82, after he's taken our lead above 300

 

[Dexter]

That was missing leg all day. Certainly no way its ploughing into the middle of leg.

 

[BroncsFan]

That was missing leg all day. Certainly no way its ploughing into the middle of leg.

Yeah a few dodgy ones from DRS I reckon.

I wonder how the DRS gets the stumps into the program.

Are they default virtual stumps based on what they're meant to be (i.e. spacing, height, width, etc.) or do they replicate the actual set of stumps each time DRS is used (I doubt it)?

The decision for the ump is to determine if the ball will be hitting the stumps (i.e. the stumps they can actually see in the field of play) and not so much if the ball will hit a set of virtual stumps generated by a computer