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JAHHW said:
An in-form Joe Burns is far from the most exciting batsman to watch in T20. Watching an out of form Burns is like sticking knitting needles in your eyes.

The bloke needs to go back to grade cricket and get a few solid knocks in, score some runs. He’s so out of touch.
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His T20 record is under-rated. Already over 1000 runs and less innings than most others who have made that mark. At an average of 27 & S/r in the high 120s.
Admittedly, he is well out of touch, but if he can find something he is a far better option than Heazlett, Cooper, et al.
 
Dash said:
I'm with you. I also don't find her voice/accent particularly annoying, but maybe I'm in the minority there.
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I actually like her voice, but I’m pretty weird so...
 
Dash said:
I'm with you. I also don't find her voice/accent particularly annoying, but maybe I'm in the minority there.
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It isn't annoying per se, just when she calls a wicket or some other highlight. But yeah, she is a beautiful woman...who just happens to sound unfortunately like Mark Nicholas.
 
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Mister Wright said:
His T20 record is under-rated. Already over 1000 runs and less innings than most others who have made that mark. At an average of 27 & S/r in the high 120s.
Admittedly, he is well out of touch, but if he can find something he is a far better option than Heazlett, Cooper, et al.
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There are absolutely times where working the ball around, scoring 1-2 a ball at 8 an over with little-to-no risk shots along the carpet is the right tactic, particularly in a moderate run chase. Indeed, this is something the entire Heat batting lineup desperately need to learn.

But you also need to have more to your game than being a player that builds innings. You need that extra gear, Burns has rarely shown he has it.

Despite his stats, which are fine, I just don’t think Burns is well suited to T20 batting. When in form, his game is best suited to 4-5 day cricket. He’s more a Martin Love, not a Matthew Hayden.
 
JAHHW said:
There are absolutely times where working the ball around, scoring 1-2 a ball at 8 an over with little-to-no risk shots along the carpet is the right tactic, particularly in a moderate run chase. Indeed, this is something the entire Heat batting lineup desperately need to learn.

But you also need to have more to your game than being a player that builds innings. You need that extra gear, Burns has rarely shown he has it.

Despite his stats, which are fine, I just don’t think Burns is well suited to T20 batting. When in form, his game is best suited to 4-5 day cricket. He’s more a Martin Love, not a Matthew Hayden.
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Not sure how old you are, but you obviously didn’t see Burns in early Big Bash tournaments. Pomersbach gets all the recognition, but without Burns in that side we don’t win out solitary trophy.

He does have that extra gear required for T20 and has been invoked in some of the Heat’s biggest partnerships. Unfortunately he is so out of touch atm, he might not get a chance to find his feet, but he is a better option than Heazlett or Cooper atm (even out of form).
 
Are the Heat still a chance for the finals?
 
Man, The Renegades are a truly horrible team, somehow even dumber than the Heat.
 
Mister Wright said:
Not sure how old you are, but you obviously didn’t see Burns in early Big Bash tournaments. Pomersbach gets all the recognition, but without Burns in that side we don’t win out solitary trophy.

He does have that extra gear required for T20 and has been invoked in some of the Heat’s biggest partnerships. Unfortunately he is so out of touch atm, he might not get a chance to find his feet, but he is a better option than Heazlett or Cooper atm (even out of form).
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Unsure of the relevance of my age, but if I was watching Martin Love play, it would stand to reason I have been watching cricket longer than the 10 year BBL comp has been running.

Sure, Burns may have been involved in decent BBL partnerships, but seldom, if ever, is he the aggressor. He is a grinder, a builder, he plays the long, slow innings, which is why I said he is more like Love, which should not be read as a criticism.

Love was a tremendous bat, but not a bloke to come out and destroy a bowling attack. He was never going to score at a S/R of 200-250 if needed. He also should have played significantly more test cricket, he was absolutely made for it. But as most Australian cricket enthusiasts know, back then, his state cap was the wrong colour. After all, during that era and for a very long while before, when you turned the Baggy Green inside out it was a Baggy Blue.

But back on topic, as I said, Burns’ game (IMO at least) is not suited to T20 cricket. But if you don’t believe me, believe the Australian selectors. There is a reason he has played 4 times as many tests (23) as he has ODI (6), and even more reason he has played exactly zero T20I.

If I was picking the Heat squad, I’d persevere with Heazlett. Yes, he is a very similar player to Burns, but he has the benefit of being a left hander. In all forms of cricket, especially short form, teams like to have right and left handed partnerships to disrupt the rhythm of the bowler / fielding units. He is also younger and has more time to develop his skills, Burns is closer to the end of his career than he is the beginning.

Agree with Cooper though, not sure why the Heat signed him.
 
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JAHHW said:
Unsure of the relevance of my age, but if I was watching Martin Love play, it would stand to reason I have been watching cricket longer than the 10 year BBL comp has been running.

Sure, Burns may have been involved in decent BBL partnerships, but seldom, if ever, is he the aggressor. He is a grinder, a builder, he plays the long, slow innings, which is why I said he is more like Love, which should not be read as a criticism.

Love was a tremendous bat, but not a bloke to come out and destroy a bowling attack. He was never going to score at a S/R of 200-250 if needed. He also should have played significantly more test cricket, he was absolutely made for it. But as most Australian cricket enthusiasts know, back then, his state cap was the wrong colour. After all, during that era and for a very long while before, when you turned the Baggy Green inside out it was a Baggy Blue.

But back on topic, as I said, Burns’ game (IMO at least) is not suited to T20 cricket. But if you don’t believe me, believe the Australian selectors. There is a reason he has played 4 times as many tests (23) as he has ODI (6), and even more reason he has played exactly zero T20I.

If I was picking the Heat squad, I’d persevere with Heazlett. Yes, he is a very similar player to Burns, but he has the benefit of being a left hander. In all forms of cricket, especially short form, teams like to have right and left handed partnerships to disrupt the rhythm of the bowler / fielding units. He is also younger and has more time to develop his skills, Burns is closer to the end of his career than he is the beginning.

Agree with Cooper though, not sure why the Heat signed him.
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Both Love & Burns have had excellent seaons. It was a while back, but Love had a season where he scored 3 or 4 hundreds in the domestic comp, maybe even as an opener. I remember going to the 'Gabba for one of those games it was against a full strength NSW side. His ODD record isn't great, but enough about Love.

Heazlett has had plenty of time to prove himelf at the Heat. 31 matches, 31 innings, 14.86 avg, 122.86 s/r he has 16 6s in that time at a rate of 0.51 6s per game. Compare that to Burns - 48 matches, 47 innings, 26.65 avg, 122.49 s/r and 41 6s at a rate of 0.87 6s per game. While Burns might be more towards the end of his career than Heazlett is, the Heat can't affort after such a(nother) poor start to the season rely on developing Heazlett who has enough of a sample size to say he is a bust at T20 cricket, at least within the Heat system. Those numbers don't stack up enough to keep Burns out of the side. At least not for the next 4-5 matches. If Burns continues to fail, then maybe it is a different conversation.

Also, here are those 'grinding' innings you were talking about:

Strike rate of 151.85

Strike rate of 178.57

Strike rate of 153.33
 
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Andre Fletcher - Wowsers, how did this guy get a Big Bash contract? I could seriously do a better job in this comp than him.
 
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