RUMOUR Bellamy - 10 Year Deal

[Mustafur]

Anything that weakens Melbourne while makes us stronger is a good thing.

 

[Waynesaurus]

....... None of those guys are organisers, who will be directing the plays? At the moment they all have a very narrow scope of responsibility, as does every Storm player, which is why they almost always regress elsewhere.

This is a very good point, we are still trying to find an organiser since we lost Locky.

 

[theshed]

Those players will still be elite in regards to their narrow strengths. They won't become plodders, but without Smith their roles become very different. None of those guys are organisers, who will be directing the plays? At the moment they all have a very narrow scope of responsibility, as does every Storm player, which is why they almost always regress elsewhere.

We have seen what happens elsewhere where a coach takes the hard-nosed approach but doesn't have the luxury of an on-field coach or such narrowly defined roles. Maguire had the Rabbitohs firing for a few seasons but quickly burnt out the playing group. The Storm don't care, they just find another player to handle that very narrow scope required, because they've always had their conductor there. But you put those same players in a system of absolute intensity, but in a role where they are required to also undertake tasks outside their primary ability, the perfection expected by somneone like Bellamy is impossible to maintain.

You put B.Smith, Munster, Paps and Hughes in a team, there is no organisation there. Smith is a running ball-playing lock, the other three are primarily runners of the ball, you ask one or a pair of them to organise the way Smith always has, they simply lack the ability, and a Bellamy screaming down their throats is just going to wear them down and ultimately disollusion them. Just like Maguire did at Souths.

We've joked for years how Bellamy will retire as soon as his meal-ticket hangs up the boots, as he won't want to be exposed as the fraud he is. Now it's happening, and because the fans are so desperate for hope, people are now hoping that Bellamy is our answer. He's not. He's nothing without Smith.

Theoretically, what if we do get Bellamy here as a director, and we still struggle to make the 8? Who gets the blowtorch applied? The million-dollar-a-year part-timer whose job it is to yell at players, or the unproven head coach whose coaching abilities have a massive question mark? Bellamy will get a free pass regarless of outcome.

Do we need to instill some discipline in our team? Absolutely. The entire team needs to be lined up, told of the expectations moving forward, and anyone who even blinks can be shown the door. I just don't think Bellamy is the answer for that, certainly not enough to warrant basically pulling our pants down, bending over, and pleading for him to buttfuck us on the negotiation tables.

I think you’re underselling Grant.

 

[broncsgoat]

then hopefully 12 months of Kevvie proves we don't need Bellamy

Or the role goes to Bennett like it always should have

 

[Foordy]

Or the role goes to Bennett like it always should have

he was offered it ... he turned it down.

his fault, no one elses

 

[ostin86]

he was offered it ... he turned it down.

his fault, no one elses

He turned it down because he still wanted to coach. Surely you know that @Foordy ?

I wanted Bennett gone as coach but I'm certainly not against him coming back in this role. Not sure how many years he has left in him, certainly less than Bellamy. But I feel lile Kevvie and Bennett would get this lot feeling and playing like the Brisbane Broncos again. Equally happy to have Bellamy aswell btw.

 

[Foordy]

He turned it down because he still wanted to coach. Surely you know that @Foordy ?

I wanted Bennett gone as coach but I'm certainly not against him coming back in this role. Not sure how many years he has left in him, certainly less than Bellamy. But I feel lile Kevvie and Bennett would get this lot feeling and playing like the Brisbane Broncos again. Equally happy to have Bellamy aswell btw.

absolutely i know that ... but he was acting like we just told Bennett to **** off and we didn't make that offer to him when we should have.

BTW, sounds like he still isn't ready to take on a role like that.

 

[abashii]

I think you’re underselling Grant.

Grant will be at the Broncos though.

 

[Kooly87]

I think you’re underselling Grant.

Yes and No.

On the one hand, no, it is pretty unlikely that Grant will reach the level of Smith given he's perhaps the greatest ever, so he's probably correct in that sense.

On the other hand though, he's probably the most exciting Dummy Half talent (perhaps even the most exciting overall young talent) in the game right now, so even if he doesn't reach Smith's level, he's still likely to be an absolute gun for the next decade or more and you could easily build a Premiership challenging side around him.

 

[Kimlo]

Bring back Bennett! Bellamy and Smith can blow each other in Melbourne! Never liked either of those Muppets and never will!

The more I think about it, the more I like this idea.

Why should we let Bellamy play us like a fiddle again? If he hasn't agreed in principle to sign with us already, and were I the club, I'd have made a statement saying we are not looking at Bellamy as an option and no offer will be made.

Let him play his dirty negotiation games elsewhere.

Being back Bennett as director.

 

[ostin86]

absolutely i know that ... but he was acting like we just told Bennett to **** off and we didn't make that offer to him when we should have.

BTW, sounds like he still isn't ready to take on a role like that.

Is Bennett still contracted to coach South's next year? Or is Demetriou due to take over? I have not seen Bennett talk about what his plans post South's are.

 

[Kooly87]

Is Bennett still contracted to coach South's next year? Or is Demetriou due to take over? I have not seen Bennett talk about what his plans post South's are.

Bennett is still the Coach for 2021.

I'd imagine a role at the QRL, perhaps even longer term being the Origin Coach beyond just 2020 might appeal to him too.

 

[broncsgoat]

he was offered it ... he turned it down.

his fault, no one elses

If it wasn’t for Whites complete stupidity to not find a middle ground with the games most successful coach he’d be in the role already. Instead we have a spoon.

 

[Foordy]

Is Bennett still contracted to coach South's next year? Or is Demetriou due to take over? I have not seen Bennett talk about what his plans post South's are.

Bennett is coaching Souths in 2021
JD takes over in 2022.

Bennett may be done by 2022 who knows. His history and reputation will mean he is never short of offers.

Personally, I'm not sure i would sign either Bennett or Bellamy to a coaching director role. I fear that either of them could turn into a similar situation to Gould at the Panthers.

 

[Foordy]

If it wasn’t for Whites complete stupidity to not find a middle ground with the games most successful coach he’d be in the role already. Instead we have a spoon.

Bennett didn't want a middle ground ... Bennett wanted head coach or nothing.

the club wanted Bennett to remain involved ... he chose not to.

 

[ostin86]

The more I think about it, the more I like this idea.

Why should we let Bellamy play us like a fiddle again? If he hasn't agreed in principle to sign with us already, and were I the club, I'd have made a statement saying we are not looking at Bellamy as an option and no offer will be made.

Let him play his dirty negotiation games elsewhere.

Being back Bennett as director.

I generally agree with this. I just hope that we dont let Bellamy string us along as he has before. I get the feeling it might already be done. Just not able to be announced yet.

 

[broncsgoat]

Bennett didn't want a middle ground ... Bennett wanted head coach or nothing.

the club wanted Bennett to remain involved ... he chose not to.

Middle ground was an extra year and move into that position. If you had a time machine right now are you telling me you wouldn’t take that alternate universe? You’d rather have a shiny new spoon in the trophy room?

 

[Foordy]

Middle ground was an extra year and move into that position. If you had a time machine right now are you telling me you wouldn’t take that alternate universe? You’d rather have a shiny new spoon in the trophy room?

you do understand what middle ground means, right?

giving Bennett exactly what he wants isn't middle ground