RUMOUR Bellamy - 10 Year Deal

[broncos4life]

As much as I hope it isn't the case, unfortunately I think this is another time where Bellamy just uses us to the pay and conditions he wants from Melbourne with absolutely no intention of coming here. I would imagine he went to Melbourne originally and said he wants to move back to QLD and they said he needs to be in Melbourne to do the coaching director role so he came to us to put pressure on them which will see them gave and let him do the role from Qld.

 

[Cult]

Working remotely from SEQ would be quite beneficial for them in some ways though, all their feeder clubs and pathways are up here. The Storm could easily be described as a Brisbane/SEQ team that just has the first grade squad based in Melbourne.

If that’s their plan they need to be kicked out ASAP. They are not a Melbourne team, they are the 4th Queensland team and they have added nothing to this sport in their 23 years. **** them

 

[Petch67]

I think that is a gross over-simplification.

Of course when Smith retires there will very likely be some regression. It simply isn't possible to have perhaps the best player of all time retire and then expect there to be no fallout from that.

I'd suggest though that a huge part of Bellamy's success rests on the deeds of Smith, but similarly, I'd suggest a significant portion of Smith's success rests with Bellamy. It's one of those incredibly rare occasions where a player and Coach end up in a near perfect partnership where both are made better by working with the other. I think Alfie, incredible talent that he was, still owes a level of his success to being coached by a guy in Bennett who could recognise his strengths and weaknesses and adjust his approach accordingly.

It's not just about Smith though, Melbourne have lost Inglis, then Slater, then Cronk, and shortly of course, they'll lose Smith too. Bellamy could honestly have cut and run two years ago when Slater was already gone and it was apparent Cronk was going too. He didn't though, and I suspect in his mind as much as it was about getting one more title with Smith, he no doubt values his legacy and I suspect like anyone with ego, he would want to leave something at Melbourne that can stand up long after he's gone.

He obviously cannot replace Inglis, Slater, Cronk and Smith. These are some of the finest players of the modern era. But I'd suggest in some of the guys he's got coming through, he's probably got the closest he could come to emulating these guys. I certainly know I'd take just about every one of them at Brisbane.

I suspect when he walks out of there in 2021 he'll have possibly another title under his belt, but he'll also be leaving behind one of the most exciting and promising playing groups in the competition and it will be up to them and their new Coach to carry the baton at that point. He'll be coming back to Queensland to enjoy a less demanding role closer to his family and honestly, I think after nearly 20 years of doing a simply masterful job, that's a more than fair enough time to walk away without anybody sniping from the sidelines that it was about fear of not being successful anymore.

Good post mate....as great a coach as bellamy is i think true greatness would be coaching here for a year or 2 and getting 100% out of these over paid plonkers

 

[Foordy]

Fox Sports (Hooper) reporting that Melbourne will try and match any offer (both $$$ and length) that we make Bellamy.

they will allow him to work from QLD and call the role "coaching director" ... whatever it takes to ensure he stays at the Storm

 

[broncos4life]

Fox Sports (Hooper) reporting that Melbourne will try and match any offer (both $$$ and length) that we make Bellamy.

they will allow him to work from QLD and call the role "coaching director" ... whatever it takes to ensure he stays at the Storm

Bellamy gets what he wants which is what this is all about, we will be played once again.

 

[Foordy]

Bellamy gets what he wants which is what this is all about, we will be played once again.

then hopefully 12 months of Kevvie proves we don't need Bellamy

 

[BroncsFan]

Fox Sports (Hooper) reporting that Melbourne will try and match any offer (both $$$ and length) that we make Bellamy.

they will allow him to work from QLD and call the role "coaching director" ... whatever it takes to ensure he stays at the Storm

Ok so we make 10yr $1m a year for 3 days a week... and then call the role GM of Football so it puts Frank Ponissi out of a job in Melbourne

 

[Kooly87]

then hopefully 12 months of Kevvie proves we don't need Bellamy

If Kevvie's appointment was contingent on getting a Coaching Director then logically if we miss out on Bellamy we'll still need to fill that role.

A lot of people won't like hearing this, but the next best candidate after Bellamy is more than likely to be Wayne Bennett.

 

[Waynesaurus]

Fox Sports (Hooper) reporting that Melbourne will try and match any offer (both $$$ and length) that we make Bellamy.

they will allow him to work from QLD and call the role "coaching director" ... whatever it takes to ensure he stays at the Storm

Even if we don't get Bellamy, we've still made then farkin nervous and have to dig really deep into their pockets to keep him. Matt Tripp's responses tell me he is worried as fark he will leave.

 

[1910]

Ok so we make 10yr $1m a year for 3 days a week... and then call the role GM of Football so it puts Frank Ponissi out of a job in Melbourne

I don't see why Bellamy staying would mean Ponissi needs to move on, they've worked together beautifully since 2007 as a team. The greatness of them both is that they cover all areas, Bellamy covers coaching and Frank was an assistant coach at Manly in the 1990's and Australia they both understand the game deeply. Why wouldn't the Storm want that 'team' to help a new coach?

 

[Foordy]

If Kevvie's appointment was contingent on getting a Coaching Director then logically if we miss out on Bellamy we'll still need to fill that role.

A lot of people won't like hearing this, but the next best candidate after Bellamy is more than likely to be Wayne Bennett.

I'd be head hunting an actual experienced football manager rather than a former coach. guys like Parr and Ponisi fit the bill.

 

[1910]

I'd be head hunting an actual experienced football manager rather than a former coach. guys like Parr and Ponisi fit the bill.

Ponisi has had coaching at Manly, Kangaroos, France and England.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

If Melbourne are going to try and screw us on this, then we should fire back by making them scratch and claw for every inch. Make them squirm.

 

[Foordy]

Ponisi has had coaching at Manly, Kangaroos, France and England.

maybe, but he is still an experienced football manager which was my main point

 

[vertigo]

There's a reason Bellamy is quitting as a head coach after next year. Those are all decent players, made to look exceptional by their captain. Having Smith there means that every role can be simplified, whether it's their halves, their fullback, or anyone one else. Once a role is simplified, it can be drilled down to an absolute certainty.

Triple M were talking about Adam Blair on the weekend and how he struggled at the Tigers because his role was so diversified compared to his time at the Storm. All he needed to do there was be at a certain offset to Cronk and that was it, the plays came from there. In any other team, there are more responsibilities and situations that need to be accounted for. Not at the Storm, because everything comes from Coach Smith and they literally just have to react like simple pre-programmed robots. It's also why the Storm have struggled when their Plan A is foiled, because they literally have no Plan B programmed.

All the Storm have done is develop a system where they only need a very narrow scope from recruits, the common one is a willingness to be flogged in to submission. The individual talents allow them to plug in to a certain position, but their takents aren't enhanced by the Storm system, they're just isolated and forced to play within those bounds. The entire Storm and Bellamy system will crumble when Smith retires, because no one, not even Harry Grant or Brandon Smith, can replicate what he brings.

So once cam retires, Munster, Papenhuyzen, Grant, Smith, Hughes, Hynes will all of a sudden lose their ability and become plodders.

Get a grip. You want to see what a team full of "potential" and bad coaching looks like? Look no further than the Broncos.

They are successful because the culture requires it. Do you think for a second Milford would be able to get away with what he's done here if he was in Melbourne? He wouldn't last half a pre-season. Not to mention passengers like Ofahengaue who get upgrades then fall to pieces.

 

[Morkel]

So once cam retires, Munster, Papenhuyzen, Grant, Smith, Hughes, Hynes will all of a sudden lose their ability and become plodders.

Get a grip. You want to see what a team full of "potential" and bad coaching looks like? Look no further than the Broncos.

They are successful because the culture requires it. Do you think for a second Milford would be able to get away with what he's done here if he was in Melbourne? He wouldn't last half a pre-season. Not to mention passengers like Ofahengaue who get upgrades then fall to pieces.

Those players will still be elite in regards to their narrow strengths. They won't become plodders, but without Smith their roles become very different. None of those guys are organisers, who will be directing the plays? At the moment they all have a very narrow scope of responsibility, as does every Storm player, which is why they almost always regress elsewhere.

We have seen what happens elsewhere where a coach takes the hard-nosed approach but doesn't have the luxury of an on-field coach or such narrowly defined roles. Maguire had the Rabbitohs firing for a few seasons but quickly burnt out the playing group. The Storm don't care, they just find another player to handle that very narrow scope required, because they've always had their conductor there. But you put those same players in a system of absolute intensity, but in a role where they are required to also undertake tasks outside their primary ability, the perfection expected by somneone like Bellamy is impossible to maintain.

You put B.Smith, Munster, Paps and Hughes in a team, there is no organisation there. Smith is a running ball-playing lock, the other three are primarily runners of the ball, you ask one or a pair of them to organise the way Smith always has, they simply lack the ability, and a Bellamy screaming down their throats is just going to wear them down and ultimately disollusion them. Just like Maguire did at Souths.

We've joked for years how Bellamy will retire as soon as his meal-ticket hangs up the boots, as he won't want to be exposed as the fraud he is. Now it's happening, and because the fans are so desperate for hope, people are now hoping that Bellamy is our answer. He's not. He's nothing without Smith.

Theoretically, what if we do get Bellamy here as a director, and we still struggle to make the 8? Who gets the blowtorch applied? The million-dollar-a-year part-timer whose job it is to yell at players, or the unproven head coach whose coaching abilities have a massive question mark? Bellamy will get a free pass regarless of outcome.

Do we need to instill some discipline in our team? Absolutely. The entire team needs to be lined up, told of the expectations moving forward, and anyone who even blinks can be shown the door. I just don't think Bellamy is the answer for that, certainly not enough to warrant basically pulling our pants down, bending over, and pleading for him to buttfuck us on the negotiation tables.

 

[badyon]

If he's in, he's positive and does it without bullshit.

Otherwise it's busto

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[Blindside Bronco]

Bring back Bennett! Bellamy and Smith can blow each other in Melbourne! Never liked either of those Muppets and never will!