Boyd - I'm trying too hard

[Huge]

Have you ever played footy ? It's called drawing and passing, Oates needed to stay out and behind. He has overran a few times this year in scoring positions. All on Oates not boyd , funny how Corey hasn't copped shit but

So so true. Oates has been a bit out of form but nobody is giving him shit because he's everyone's first or second favourite . Poor old Boydy has been getting bashed around, pillar to post.

 

[_wwong]

Have you ever played footy ? It's called drawing and passing, Oates needed to stay out and behind. He has overran a few times this year in scoring positions. All on Oates not boyd , funny how Corey hasn't copped shit but

Sorry Locky, I haven’t played in over 15 years

 

[holdzy]

So so true. Oates has been a bit out of form but nobody is giving him shit because he's everyone's first or second favourite . Poor old Boydy has been getting bashed around, pillar to post.

It's almost like the captain of the club gets held to a higher standard or something...

 

[Old Mate]

Could you or any one of the Boyd detractors make a small video compilation of these pure laziness moments, the not trying moments, the cowardice and pea hearted moments and the apparently numerous arm waving moments? You guys may be right but I watched the same games and haven't really noticed them so I'd really appreciate it so as to better understand the opposite view.

Not all of us Boyd doubters are video whiz kids and that’s coming from myself, an intellectual.

 

[pagey]

Sorry Locky, I haven’t played in over 15 years

Don't care it's fucking simple to see if you had a clue. Oates to slow to react for 2 chance he had , milf pointing at tedesco claiming a knock on and not playing the WHISTLE, bird rushing the line and dropping it over the line AGAIN!!!
Not defending Boyd's shit play or lack there of on tedesco but seriously you lot are trying to find shit to point the finger at him . Grow the **** up !! Don't like it don't watch them, simple

 

[Unbreakable]

On first look it does appear that Boyd could have dived or lunged trying to dislodge the ball but I'd say he knew he was too far away to get him. Offa was initially impeded and Boyd was right to at least appeal the obstruction. Nobody has said Boyd hasn't made mistakes or been out of form but the rubbish on here is astounding. This example at least has merit @Tom unlike that bullshit about the Crichton try.

He has a significantly smaller chance to stop the Tedesco try than the Crichton try, purely based on vicinity and speed. Tedesco was at full speed, the best Boyd could've done is put in some effort to make the goal kick a little bit more difficult, but again, didn't put in the effort, would rather hands up and complain.

The Crichton try, he had a very realistic chance to stop, or at least decrease the likelihood of him scoring. If he changed direction marginally faster he was well within reach to help stop him, or at least try to. Crichton already had multiple players on him slowing him down, unlike the Tedesco example.

At this point in time Darius has stopped his run and has squared up to being in line with Crichton, if you're telling me he is physically incapable of now moving to his right in the space of the next 0.5-1.25 seconds, you're the stupidest person on here.

I'm not joking when I say this is where Darius ended up after the try is scored, he does not move a single inch from the position he's in, in the above screen capture.

 

[Huge]

Not all of us Boyd doubters are video whiz kids and that’s coming from myself, an intellectual.

It's why I asked for another to make the compilation. I haven't bothered learning how to do it.

 

[_wwong]

Don't care it's fucking simple to see if you had a clue. Oates to slow to react for 2 chance he had , milf pointing at tedesco claiming a knock on and not playing the WHISTLE, bird rushing the line and dropping it over the line AGAIN!!!
Not defending Boyd's shit play or lack there of on tedesco but seriously you lot are trying to find shit to point the finger at him . Grow the **** up !! Don't like it don't watch them, simple

Why don’t you take your hate over to the Oates thread that doesn’t exist yet. The point of my post was actually how the game could have been a different story had Oates scored but you have to be a **** sucker towards every post that isn’t your own. Maybe you should quit watching sport because it’s clearly bad for your health.

Staff Edit: Any more personal comments and thread bans will be issued.

 

[Cult]

All these videos prove is that Boyd is putting too much faith in his front line of defence and not anticipating easy tackle breaks that shouldn’t happen in the first place

 

[Huge]

He has a significantly smaller chance to stop the Tedesco try than the Crichton try, purely based on vicinity and speed. Tedesco was at full speed, the best Boyd could've done is put in some effort to make the goal kick a little bit more difficult, but again, didn't put in the effort, would rather hands up and complain.

The Crichton try, he had a very realistic chance to stop, or at least decrease the likelihood of him scoring. If he changed direction marginally faster he was well within reach to help stop him, or at least try to. Crichton already had multiple players on him slowing him down, unlike the Tedesco example.

At this point in time Darius has stopped his run and has squared up to being in line with Crichton, if you're telling me he is physically incapable of now moving to his right in the space of the next 0.5-1.25 seconds, you're the stupidest person on here.

I'm not joking when I say this is where Darius ended up after the try is scored, he does not move a single inch from the position he's in, in the above screen capture.

The screen capture does not truthfully represent the situation. He is not, inline as you claim and is actually 2 metres to side of inline, Crichton is moving away from Boyd at this point, again the still doesn't show movement or momentum.

I've seen a guy doing a wheelstand on a huge motorcycle with a still(screen capture) showing a person walking right beside him, the pedestrian's head level with the front disc brake. It tells us nothing about speed, momentum and very little about angles. It's a moment in time. Why bother with the still image? It doesn't change the vision which if viewed at normal speed clearly shows Boyd coming across in cover and Crichton being past him before even Neo could act. It's pure bullshit and you'd be laughed out of the room if you tried to peddle this bullshit to a room full of first graders.

 

[tommy]

If Boyd had chased after Tedesco a try could have been avoided. You play the whistle, Tedesco could have easily slipped over if he was actually trying to avoid being tackled. We know it happens to be a particularly slippery part of the field, that area.

 

[Wolfie]

Well he can put in all the effort he wants (when he wants to) but if he's past it, he's past it.

He takes the high ball pretty well, and can sometimes pull off the sweep play. In what other ways is he a quality fullback? In what ways does his attitude improve the team? Is his captaincy of high quality in your opinion?

You are right, if a player is past it, they are past it. Depends on the level of performance the coach is willing to put up with when thats the case.

I've said it before, i think he is a good captain. High quality captains are extremely rare. Imo, Cameron Smith is the only one in that bracket in the NRL.

It also depends if you are focusing purely about his on field captaincy or his captaincy off the field as well. On the field, i'd actually agree with his assessment, he is trying too hard and its affecting his game, which is in turn affecting his on field leadership. If we had other leaders who could take a bit of the pressure off him currently, it wouldnt be so much of an issue. Its a big problem we have at the club, we dont have many leaders imo in the senior group or the young guys actually. Carrigan is the only one i see as captain material right now, and its way too early for that.

 

[Jason Simmons]

If Boyd had chased after Tedesco a try could have been avoided. You play the whistle, Tedesco could have easily slipped over if he was actually trying to avoid being tackled. We know it happens to be a particularly slippery part of the field, that area.

Every part of the field seems to be particularly slippery when Boyd is running on it, if there is someone running his way, lately...

 

[Wolfie]

Or you could save us the trouble and just watch the games with your glasses on, they're quite easy to spot.


Go to the time 1:03 on that YouTube video. To make things a little easier to spot for you, click on

down the bottom right hand side of the video player, after that you want to select "Speed" and go 0.25, can you see Boyd standing in front of the goal line offering absolutely zero support? Doesn't seem like he's "trying too hard" to me in this situation.

If you're still struggling to see him let me know and I'll post a few screen captures for you with large rid circles pointing him out.

You have to be fair though, you could easily find players making poor choices and poor plays in a game from pretty much the entire team. Oates for example seems to be dropping the ball 2 or 3 times a game every week recently, or Issako consistently makes really bad decisions in defence. Its easy to single out one player, but we have loads doing it.

I'm still calling bullshit on him not trying though. I cant see any player going out not to try their best. What i see is a player who is going through a spell, like many, many others at the Broncos, where he doesnt seem to be able to do the right thing and is reading situations in game wrong. As a team, we are not performing and as a team we are all making simple mistakes and errors of judgement. We can replace Boyd, but if the other players are still making errors things wont change.

 

[the_next]

If this is Boyd trying "too hard" I would hate to see him not trying at all

Boyd, time to call it time.

 

[Unbreakable]

You have to be fair though, you could easily find players making poor choices and poor plays in a game from pretty much the entire team. Oates for example seems to be dropping the ball 2 or 3 times a game every week recently, or Issako consistently makes really bad decisions in defence. Its easy to single out one player, but we have loads doing it.

I'm still calling bullshit on him not trying though. I cant see any player going out not to try their best. What i see is a player who is going through a spell, like many, many others at the Broncos, where he doesnt seem to be able to do the right thing and is reading situations in game wrong. As a team, we are not performing and as a team we are all making simple mistakes and errors of judgement. We can replace Boyd, but if the other players are still making errors things wont change.

We're talking about a specific example. If you can tell me straight up that Boyd tried his hardest to stop that Crichton & Tedesco try, I'll put you on the same list as Huge, the list of people who either don't know Rugby League or are just lying to suit their argument.

 

[pagey]

Why don’t you take your hate over to the Oates thread that doesn’t exist yet. The point of my post was actually how the game could have been a different story had Oates scored but you have to be a **** sucker towards every post that isn’t your own. Maybe you should quit watching sport because it’s clearly bad for your health.

Which you blamed on boyd ? No hate just pointing out that there's more players out of form than just boyd. Maybe you shouldn't watch sports anymore if you're just going to criticize people who have gotten further than you.

 

[Wolfie]

We're talking about a specific example. If you can tell me straight up that Boyd tried his hardest to stop that Crichton & Tedesco try, I'll put you on the same list as Huge, the list of people who either don't know Rugby League or are just lying to suit their argument.

Well, i'm not lying, and i know rugby league, so put me on that list if you want, i dont have to try to please you or anyone on here. You do what you feel like.

What i will say though is you seem to feel making a poor decision, or coming up with the wrong play is the same thing as not trying. If you cant see that, then maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue about any sport in general where you have a split second to make an decision.

So i am going to say i think he tried to stop the examples you said. I absolutely think he did. Do i think he made a couple of really bad decisions which ended up being huge errors. I'm absolutely saying that as well. Like i said, not trying and making big mistakes are two different things. I feel Boyd is doing the latter.