Badel Warning Brisbane fighting Warriors for David Fifita

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I just dont see TPJ over Fifita. TPJ is inconsistent, unreliable and constantly prone to making dumb errors and getting suspended. Fifita is a far more mature player at 19 than TPJ at 23.
I never said I was fine with prioritsing him over Fifita, just that I was fine with prioritising him (Over the likes of Ofahengaue, Glenn, Oates, etc)

The second part is precisely why I said he has a lot of growing up to do on the field.

Haas & Fifita are the only 2 that matter to me, I'm actually annoyed that they're not on Taumalolo / DCE style life long contracts, that's how important they are to the future of the club.
 

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The great thing about our young pack is that they all bring their own style to the game.

Lodge is the gritty leader.
Haas is an absolute meter making freak
Fifita is that X factor hole runner
TPJ is the offloading high tempo aggressor
Offa is the reliable work horse who just puts his head down and gets his job done.

It’s a very good balance. If we have to lose one then the priorities debate can be had but all of them bring something great to the team.
 
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I never said I was fine with prioritsing him over Fifita, just that I was fine with prioritising him (Over the likes of Ofahengaue, Glenn, Oates, etc)

The second part is precisely why I said he has a lot of growing up to do on the field.

Haas & Fifita are the only 2 that matter to me, I'm actually annoyed that they're not on Taumalolo / DCE style life long contracts, that's how important they are to the future of the club.
Oates should be priority over TPJ. TPJ seems more interested in himself than the team.
We have fairly reliable forwards now and TPJ's errors/penalties are too costly.

Apart from his earlier handling issues the way Oates has played this year is on the blokes beside him. Boyd seems to have forgotten how to pass. Shiba cannot hold the ball or draw defenders to save himself and Fifi tends to run himself, often away from Oates. Of course Fifi runs are pretty handy but it does mean Oates is less likely to receive the ball.
 

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You said you were fine with prioritising TPJ after i said it should have been Haas and TPJ.

My big worry is we seem to be looking top quality in every position when thats just not practical. No good having an all star forward pack if you dont have the backs. We dont have enough of the workmanlike, just get the job done type of players in our squad. We seem to have gun kids, potentially gun kids or blokes like Boyd and Macca who are players on the way down costing us a fair bit. We dont have the solid, NRL performers who wont let you down but wont cost the earth either.
 

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Would it be an idea for Fifita to sign a one year contract with the view to upgrade him again once more funds free up with Macca, bird and Boyd potentially finishing up next year ?
Could just back end the contract. That way we have him secured. For the years after.

I would look at long term contract, first year pay to remain in our cap, then scheduled increase in the following years when we can offload some dead wood
 

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I was fine with prioritising TPJ, he has a lot of growing up to do on the field, but he's got enormous potential to be one of the best forwards in the game. Ofahengaue on the other hand has been bog average for the Broncos this year, depending how a few things shake out with the roster there's a very real chance he's not in our best 17 next year, and we paid him $500K a year.
Offa is still providing the numbers, but maybe should be back on the bench for a bit. He's definitely worth keeping.
I think flegler might be the one to leave, from NQ and they will be looking for a scott replacement.
 

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You said you were fine with prioritising TPJ after i said it should have been Haas and TPJ.

My big worry is we seem to be looking top quality in every position when thats just not practical. No good having an all star forward pack if you dont have the backs. We dont have enough of the workmanlike, just get the job done type of players in our squad. We seem to have gun kids, potentially gun kids or blokes like Boyd and Macca who are players on the way down costing us a fair bit. We dont have the solid, NRL performers who wont let you down but wont cost the earth either.
Yeah Macca and Boyd are meant to be the exactly the get the job done types that youre talking about. But they aren’t doing their jobs. Glenn and Gillo are doing it but I feel Gillo is on too much coin for what he’s currently offering. I also think Isaako is a average do his job type winger.
 

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Could just back end the contract. That way we have him secured. For the years after.

I would look at long term contract, first year pay to remain in our cap, then scheduled increase in the following years when we can offload some dead wood
I imagine this is what’s happened, and it’s just whether we’re willing to pay enough in the back end
 

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The great thing about our young pack is that they all bring their own style to the game.

Lodge is the gritty leader.
Haas is an absolute meter making freak
Fifita is that X factor hole runner
TPJ is the offloading high tempo aggressor
Offa is the reliable work horse who just puts his head down and gets his job done.

It’s a very good balance. If we have to lose one then the priorities debate can be had but all of them bring something great to the team.
The Ofa part seems like having a bunch of superheroes and a guy who goes on a coffee run for them (puts his head down and gets the job done). Except the coffee guy is getting the same amount of money as the superheroes.
 

theshed

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The Ofa part seems like having a bunch of superheroes and a guy who goes on a coffee run for them (puts his head down and gets the job done). Except the coffee guy is getting the same amount of money as the superheroes.
haha even the justice league have hawk eye.

I do agree he is probably a little generously paid if 500k is true.
 

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Yeah Macca and Boyd are meant to be the exactly the get the job done types that youre talking about. But they aren’t doing their jobs. Glenn and Gillo are doing it but I feel Gillo is on too much coin for what he’s currently offering. I also think Isaako is a average do his job type winger.
I'm not so sure they are. They were good players, but who are on the way down and have probably declined quicker than we expected.

I'm more thinking about people lika Stagg/Reed/ Opacic type player, or from other clubs a Glasby or Alvaro. These types of player are a no fuss, low maintainence, reletively cheap option that gives us a bit more coin to throw at the superstar guys.
 
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You said you were fine with prioritising TPJ after i said it should have been Haas and TPJ.

My big worry is we seem to be looking top quality in every position when thats just not practical. No good having an all star forward pack if you dont have the backs. We dont have enough of the workmanlike, just get the job done type of players in our squad. We seem to have gun kids, potentially gun kids or blokes like Boyd and Macca who are players on the way down costing us a fair bit. We dont have the solid, NRL performers who wont let you down but wont cost the earth either.
I actually think with direction, we do have these guys in the squad, its just right now they cannot do that. Without direction or leadership they are all trying to make it happen, yet settling it down and focusing on the task will give them more freedom to be solid work houses rather than power impact players.

Haas has shown this, Glenn has it, Carrigan and Fleg have it... TPJ and Lodge seem to get very hot headed - but its always in an effort to chase a big change or impact to turn the game.
 

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If we were to get rid of Macca, Boyd, Gillette and Bird we'd have enough to keep Fifita and sign Foran and RTS. I pretty much imagine we'd go close to doing at least a threepeat.
 

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I actually think with direction, we do have these guys in the squad, its just right now they cannot do that. Without direction or leadership they are all trying to make it happen, yet settling it down and focusing on the task will give them more freedom to be solid work houses rather than power impact players.

Haas has shown this, Glenn has it, Carrigan and Fleg have it... TPJ and Lodge seem to get very hot headed - but its always in an effort to chase a big change or impact to turn the game.
Its not the ability of the player i'm talking about though, its the cost. I agree every player you mentioned is capable of being solid at least, but they wont come cheaply. Flegler isnt on huge money i dont think, but the others are on decent coin. What i'm talking about is sort of a slightly watered down version of what Melbourne seem to do. They have the top liners, but then they back them up with just solid, cheaper players who get the job done. ( Blokes like Norrie, Hinchcliffe, Green, Koribete or currently, Kamikamica, Olam, Blair and Seve ). Some of them do well and get better contracts but they just seem to replace them with a similar player ( Koribete replaced by Addo-Carr for example ).
 

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If we were to get rid of Macca, Boyd, Gillette and Bird we'd have enough to keep Fifita and sign Foran and RTS. I pretty much imagine we'd go close to doing at least a threepeat.
Foran? I know it’s been a rubbish season but Foran? More like Snore-ran!
 
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