Skyblues87
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Hope its not Moses
Broncos Player Movement and Rumours 2020
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- Sep 19, 2012
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Agree, a dependable journeyman wouldn't go astray. He will add some depth to our stocks there too. Glenn seems to be picking up a few injuries lately and Proctor seems to have good work ethic. I've not paid much attention to his defense, but he knows how to run lines.
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Agreed. If he is wanting $2-300k, I'd be all for it.
Shane Tronc
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Big no to Proctor. Has had like 2 good games for the titans in the last 2 seasons. It would be a desperation signing.
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Unfortunately, desperation is where the club is at.
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PSM same as a lot of Broncos. Haas, Croft, Flegler, Bird, Hopoate, Palasia and Kevin Walters (I think)
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To me he has always been a below average second rower and he will likely want a 2-3 yr contract somewhere in the vicinity of $400k-$600k:
- He plays like a workhorse, but doesn't really get through a lot of work.
- He runs lines, but doesn't threaten the defence.
- He doesn't have an offload
- He doesn't break tackles
- His defence is just normal for a second rower, but not high impact
If he wants to come for 2yr on $200k sure why not... if he wants to come here for 3yr at even $400k then no chance in hell do I want us wasting money on him.
Unfortunately for me he is the exact kind of signing the broncos will probably be looking at; second rower, experienced and settled in SEQLD. I just hope they don't break the bank for him if they go for him.
| Year | 2020 | 2019 | 2018 | 2017 |
| Games | 10 | 22 | 23 | 16 |
| Avg runs per game | 9.1 | 10 | 9.4 | 11.7 |
| Run meters per game | 71.2 | 75.7 | 73.4 | 92.4 |
| Tackles per game | 29.7 | 32.5 | 30.78 | 30.4 |
| Missed Tackles (per game) | 18 (1.8) | 43 (1.95) | 40 (1.74) | 16 (1) |
| Tries | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| Line breaks | 2 | 4 | 6 | 1 |
| Tackle busts (per game) | 10 (1) | 20 (0.91) | 22 (0.96) | 11 (0.69) |
| Offloads (per game) | 8 (0.8) | 10 (0.45) | 11 (0.48) | 11 (0.69) |
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- Apr 26, 2008
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You're far more prepared for this than I am. You win.
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I originally just went with my observations and was going to leave it there, but thought I should at least check if what I think I see actually correlates with the stats... and they seemed to be inline with my thinking
Like I said, he's the kind of signing the broncos will be looking at... if he comes on the Glenn contract (2yr @ $200k) then it's a good signing, but if he's coming for $400k+ and 3yrs, then it's basically an Offa contract for someone who probably offers less than him.
It's likely to be his last contract and he's not exactly doing anything different compared to his last 4 years, which had him playing for NZ... so I can't see him going anywhere on the cheap.
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I'm a sucker for good formatting, so you really could have said anything but when it was presented that beautifully you were going to win me over.I originally just went with my observations and was going to leave it there, but thought I should at least check if what I think I see actually correlates with the stats... and they seemed to be inline with my thinking
Like I said, he's the kind of signing the broncos will be looking at... if he comes on the Glenn contract (2yr @ $200k) then it's a good signing, but if he's coming for $400k+ and 3yrs, then it's basically an Offa contract for someone who probably offers less than him.
It's likely to be his last contract and he's not exactly doing anything different compared to his last 4 years, which had him playing for NZ... so I can't see him going anywhere on the cheap.
We're going to have a ton of money next year and are short a backrower though
2020 Signings Tracker: Roberts exits Souths; Dogs nab Averillo
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Looking through the list these guys stand out as worth pursuing (at the right price):
Sia Soliola - at minimum or close, 1 year deal
Guerra - ^ as above
And that's about it.
It's really slim pickings, we could save our money but I can't see us making much use of the money we save next year.
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I'm a sucker for spreadsheets and because I'm on my laptop at the moment it was pretty easy to whack it together.I'm a sucker for good formatting, so you really could have said anything but when it was presented that beautifully you were going to win me over.
We're going to have a ton of money next year and are short a backrower though
Does any off contract backrower stand out to you?2020 Signings Tracker: Roberts exits Souths; Dogs nab Averillo
The latest player signings, transfers & contracts and NRL squads for 2020 and beyond.
Looking through the list these guys stand out as worth pursuing (at the right price):
Sia Soliola - at minimum or close, 1 year deal
Guerra - ^ as above
And that's about it.
It's really slim pickings, we could save our money but I can't see us making much use of the money we save next year.
You're right it's very slim pickings in the current market. I'd take a Guerra or someone of that ilk, but only at bottom dollar.
I had provided a shot at who I would look to target in the current free agents (link below).
Broncos Player Movement and Rumours 2020
I kind of like the idea of Mitchell at fullback, but i'm not sure how he would fit in. 1575168877 Yeah, he has been an important part of a club that competes at the top, wins premierships and lives up to their reputation as one of the heavy hitters of the NRL. We dont do that kind of thing...
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In regards to second row I had the below from July 2020... so TPJ was still hanging around, but Fifita had just left:
"Second Row
I think of most urgency right now is a 2nd rower as we can't run Glenn + Teo/TPJ with no depth. I want TPJ in the middle, and Teo can't handle 80... Glenn can barely get on the field at the moment.
Players of interest:
- Mitch Barnett is a free agent now
- Isaiah Papali'i is also a free agent as of now and warriors have Katoa and Tohu locked into their second row
- Angus Crichton is off contract in 2021... I actually consider Crichton to be the most complete 2nd rower in the comp
- Sua off contract 2021... if the coach is moved on we could go back in??
- Elliott Whitehead is off contract 2022... Canberra have some cap troubles and Whitehead seems like the guy that is getting moved around a bit. To me he is the kind of guy we currently need at the club. He's a winner and plays 80 minutes every week in a position we now need. "
Of that list I'm most interested in Barnett of those that are available right now... He doesn't quite have the experience we need and Knights will probably want to keep him, but I think he's very solid and brings something in attack whilst also being solid enough in defence. Can play in the middle as well if needed. EDIT: looks like Barnett is signed through to 2023... the NRL contracts page must not have been updated when I looked at it originally??
I'd also think Whitehead is a guy that would be very very good for us. He seems to be the forgotten man in that raiders pack since Bateman arrived... he got shifted from right edge to left edge.
I might've said Whitehead when Bateman was still hanging around (so he could've been excess), but they've just signed CHN and Ricky loves Tapine... so Whitehead could again find himself on the outer.
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https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2020/08/27/the-raiders-own-iron-man-elliott-whitehead/ - I reckon there's 0% chance we get Whitehead, he's not leaving.I'm a sucker for spreadsheets and because I'm on my laptop at the moment it was pretty easy to whack it together.
You're right it's very slim pickings in the current market. I'd take a Guerra or someone of that ilk, but only at bottom dollar.
I had provided a shot at who I would look to target in the current free agents (link below).
Broncos Player Movement and Rumours 2020
I kind of like the idea of Mitchell at fullback, but i'm not sure how he would fit in. 1575168877 Yeah, he has been an important part of a club that competes at the top, wins premierships and lives up to their reputation as one of the heavy hitters of the NRL. We dont do that kind of thing...
In regards to second row I had the below from July 2020... so TPJ was still hanging around, but Fifita had just left:
"Second Row
I think of most urgency right now is a 2nd rower as we can't run Glenn + Teo/TPJ with no depth. I want TPJ in the middle, and Teo can't handle 80... Glenn can barely get on the field at the moment.
Players of interest:
- Mitch Barnett is a free agent now
- Isaiah Papali'i is also a free agent as of now and warriors have Katoa and Tohu locked into their second row
- Angus Crichton is off contract in 2021... I actually consider Crichton to be the most complete 2nd rower in the comp
- Sua off contract 2021... if the coach is moved on we could go back in??
- Elliott Whitehead is off contract 2022... Canberra have some cap troubles and Whitehead seems like the guy that is getting moved around a bit. To me he is the kind of guy we currently need at the club. He's a winner and plays 80 minutes every week in a position we now need. "
Of that list I'm most interested in Barnett... He doesn't quite have the experience we need and Knights will probably want to keep him, but I think he's very solid and brings something in attack whilst also being solid enough in defence. Can play in the middle as well if needed.
I'd also think Whitehead is a guy that would be very very good for us. He seems to be the forgotten man in that raiders pack since Bateman arrived... he got shifted from right edge to left edge.
I might've said Whitehead when Bateman was still hanging around (so he could've been excess), but they've just signed CHN and Ricky loves Tapine... so Whitehead could again find himself on the outer.
I really like Barnett as a player but he's definitely a bit of a loose canon and I just feel like he's the sort of player who under the Brisbane judiciary microscope would be picked up for ever indiscretion but out of the entire list, I like him the most.
Crichton is apparently on a million a year the Roosters but I do like him as a player but if he kills it again, I can't see the Roosters letting him leave.
Would definitely take Sua back.
We're going to be really short in the backrow next year, if there's injuries we are screwed. Maybe Glenn can actually stay on the field next year, that would be a start, and Oates could always transition to full time backrow. Te'o may be worth keeping around if he's willing to be minimum wage again for one final year.
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Hasn't been good for awhile imo
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Crichton won't be getting $1m again, but I think he's a second rower that you would pay good money for and hasn't really been getting much of a run with Robinson up until this year. I don't think roosters will lose him, but they have Tupouniua coming through who looks good... raw, but very promising. Who knows Cordner might call it quits soon, but it is a lot of money having $1.5-2.0m tied up in 2 second rowers... so they may look to cut their losses when Crichton comes off contract next.
Whitehead is exactly what we need right now, but agree he is unlikely. It was a suggestion IF raiders are looking for cap space then Whitehead seemed like a guy that was a little underappreciated at the club (was moved the second Bateman came into the squad)... and Ricky has an obsession with trying to shoehorn Tapine somewhere into the team.
If I'm looking now the market is barren so potentially we look for guys that aren't necessarily going to get the big minutes.
A guy like Capewell is looking at a panthers team with Yeo playing lock, Kikau locked into the second row and a guy like Martin who looks very promising. Capewell is solid and would provide great value for money. Also a Queenslander.
Ethan Lowe is not a guy I would be chasing normally, but Sua is locked in. Arrow's heading there next year, therefore Murray might be back to the edge. After being injured this year he would probably come on the cheap... although Crawley was suggesting he might retire.
Maybe even a Michael Chee-Kam... rated in his juniors, but hasn't really locked down a starting spot. Potentially his defence is suspect, because he always looks dangerous with the ball in hand
I'm also thinking Oates will make a permanent move to the second row next year, because our depth is non-existent.
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