Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

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Mister Wright said:
I was at the game and don't remember Fifita doing anything!
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I made a joke a few weeks back about Badel calling David Fifita the next David Taylor. Sad thing is I think Coal Train was performing better at this stage of his career. Fifita needs to stop playing comfortable footy, has to much talent and physical ability to not go all in. His hype train will be off the track next year and the media will hammer him.
 
Kimlo said:
Titans have ruined Fifita by offering him insane money. Almost no youngster can handle that money without slacking off.

What's the motivation to perform when you're the highest paid player in the game already? There's nothing to aim for. You could say premierships but he wouldn't have went to the Titans if that was his ambition.

Paying 1M+ for unproven youngsters is the epitome of stupidity and it's why the Titans are years off being genuine threats. Good for him though, if any employer offers you that when you don't deserve it, you take it and run. If he's smarter with his money than he is with his football, he has enough to be set for life. He'd have 2m+ after tax within 3 years.
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That's basically what happened to Milford and fans of other clubs all think the Brisbane coaching ruined Milford, no the coaching didn't ruin Milford. His desire to get paid a million dollars a season and completely phone it in is what killed Milford. That's why I think whoever gets him on a highly reduced deal next season will get a bargain, there's no bigger motivation than trying to earn more money.

The quality of what is a million dollar player these days is shocking.

Ash Taylor, Holmes, Milford, Fifita.. all these blokes are deadset phoning it in.

Ben Hunt gets a pass only because the above tier aren't even having a go, he at least has a go. Even Mbye is on 900k at the Tigers, there are some outstanding player managers going around, I will tell you that.
 
I'm looking for all the fifita and Holbrook fans that hammered me for pointing out that this would happen (I said after 10 rounds, seems he started earlier tbh) and that the titans aren't going to do much this year. Anyone seen them? But hey guys, Walsh and tino are different.......
 
I bleed Maroon said:
While it sucks to see QLD lose so badly, at least as Broncos supporters we can be thankful we didn't fork out for Fifita or Coates. Those are two lazy plods that are going nowhere in their careers.
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I think Coates shows more heart and tries harder than Fifita by a long way. It’s just he’s not nrl standard yet and needs a lot of work. I feel sorry for him that he’s been thrown into such a losing culture so young in his career and hopefully he’s doing ok mentally.
 
Emanon said:
Queensland's depth is horrifying though at the moment. Shouldnt Walters, Payten and Holbrook be working together to fix that? Or does the modern club game mean origin isn't in the thinking of the Queensland clubs anymore?
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They keep their jobs, by doing what's in the best interest of their clubs being successful ... not what's in the best interest the QLD origin team
 
BroncsFan said:
Actually thinking about it, and just to quote your same post for a third time, if Kevvie is wanting to figure out how to get Staggs more involved in the play he just needs to look at how Turbo played for NSW in game 1.

Turbo basically played as a 2nd fullback even though his default position was right center and the warriors have been trying to figure out how to play with two fullbacks when you watch Walsh and RTS playing... I believe in Walsh's first game RTS basically setup at 6 and the 5/8 onwards all shifted out one (I think Murchie was named at 6 in that game, which should've been a give away from the get go).

For us next year right center is actually the best position to try and adapt as a floating player in attack and we could actually setup in a similar fashion to NSW and the rabbits anyway.

Cleary effectively plays middle of the field with Luai on the left, which could've left Turbo planted at right center getting very little ball; however Turbo rectified this by heading infield and basically playing more fullback than Teddy, with Teddy plugging into the right side whenever Turbo went infield. Reynolds already plays that role for the rabbits with their right side getting very little ball, unless Cody and Latrell head over to that side, so Staggs could quite easily float around the field as a second fullback from right center next year.

This works for the broncos in a couple ways.

Staggs can play right center as a default, but can freely roam to the middle of the field or inject himself into the sweeping plays as needed. With Staggs still being the right center we don't lose his damaging ball running and ability to dominate his opposite number 1v1.

Niu is looking like being the fullback next year (unless we recruit one), but in this system the fullback can just focus on doing all the kick returns and support play through the middle, which should suit Niu... or plug into the right side when Staggs floats around the field.

Capewell (if we end up getting him) is also a very good second rower to have in that situation given he is mobile enough to shift over to right center if Staggs does head infield and we want to shift to the right.

Five eight in that system is required to own the left side attack, which could quite easily be filled by Albert who is a smart footy player.

It will take a lot of coaching to get that sort of system working on a weekly basis and to keep it fresh throughout the year so defences can't load up, but it does put less onus on Staggs to be a creative playmaker at 6, whilst still giving him flexibility to inject himself across the field.

I think Kevvie is reasonably smart as an attacking coach and could get things working, but Staggs and Niu are nowhere near as smart as Turbo and Teddy to know how to position themselves across the field and prevent overcrowding, but with that kind of system you could run with a backline of:

1. Niu (needs to float between traditional fullback, but also plug into the right side when Staggs is floating)
2. Cobbo (left side)
3. Gagai (left side)
4. Staggs (right side and allowed to float)
5. Mead (just need a solid right sided winger that can communicate with the right sided 2nd rower and fullback to know when Staggs is off floating)
6. Kelly (left side)
7. Reynolds (middle and primary link man in the backline)
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Well thought out and it all makes sense. First thing however is that Staggs is 150% playing 6 next year. There’s no chance that changes, even Ikin said that’s the halves next year. Second which is a bit minor I understand your trying to put our weapons on the left edge but I wouldn’t mind keeping Cobbo right edge just because any time he has done something half good that’s been the edge he was on. And lastly I can’t see Brenko and Farnworth being missing from our backline next year, I really think Farnworth should be nowhere near it and Brenko is being treated as a marquee signing so chances are he plays
 
Emanon said:
Queensland's depth is horrifying though at the moment. Shouldnt Walters, Payten and Holbrook be working together to fix that? Or does the modern club game mean origin isn't in the thinking of the Queensland clubs anymore?
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You think they should in a way, but they won’t. Titans are practically unimportant a part from a half or two coming through other than that they got nobody of interest. I think this is an area where the broncos and cows should really be communicating with each other, how I don’t know but us two I think in a couple years time will be constantly in the top 8 for years as we got some really good youngsters and so do the cows. It’s getting to the point where both teams are just trying to put pieces around them
 
I think over the rest of the season the broncos need to try and get some form out of Corey Oates. If he can get back to a nrl quality winger I’d like to keep him and force Isaako out the door
 
Fitzy said:
Well thought out and it all makes sense. First thing however is that Staggs is 150% playing 6 next year. There’s no chance that changes, even Ikin said that’s the halves next year. Second which is a bit minor I understand your trying to put our weapons on the left edge but I wouldn’t mind keeping Cobbo right edge just because any time he has done something half good that’s been the edge he was on. And lastly I can’t see Brenko and Farnworth being missing from our backline next year, I really think Farnworth should be nowhere near it nd Brenko is being treated as a marquee signing so chances are he plays
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Totally forgot about Herbie... definitely chuck him on a wing over Mead.

I think Brenko probably starts if Staggs does end up playing 6, but I dont think he's been brought in as a guaranteed starter. I'd say he's more like NRL quality for our center depth so we don't have to rely on Arthars and/or Kennar.
 
heartly87 said:
I made a joke a few weeks back about Badel calling David Fifita the next David Taylor. Sad thing is I think Coal Train was performing better at this stage of his career. Fifita needs to stop playing comfortable footy, has to much talent and physical ability to not go all in. His hype train will be off the track next year and the media will hammer him.
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Dave Fifita is only 21. I'm pretty sure around this time Dave Taylor left for South Sydney because he couldn't get a regular crack in first grade at the Broncos. He was starting to play at the end of his tenure with the Broncos after he made the decision to leave though.

Bottom line Fifita needs to add more to his game. But to suggest he's a scrub and he's finished at 21 is a bit disingenuous. No, I'm not suggesting you are but some are on here. For QLD he needs to be part of the solution not part of the problem and his game needs to grow.

The other thing against Manly he couldn't make an impact in the second half because Gold Coast couldn't get the ball back. Its wasn't all his fault.
 
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