Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2023

[GCBRONCO]

Haha, that subway subber gimp has a pretty sad twitter history.

 

[007]

Sydney word is Badel is correct.

 

[Wolfie]

we hold his contract, so we'd legally be able to decide the conditions of his release. e.g:

• we could simply reject the Dolphins transfer fee offer, but accept anyone else's
• we could put in the release that it is on condition that he doesn't play against us for the terms of his contract

I'm not sure you can legally stop anyone from working for a different organisation, that would probably be classed as a restriction of trade i guess if he wanted to fight it. The not playing against us could work, and as you say, we do hold his contract so we dont have to release him.

Probably though, our best option is just fleece whoever wants him for as much money as possible.

 

[Sproj]

Why are the Broncos holding 'super secret' meetings with a player already at the club?

 

[Mustafur]

I'm not sure you can legally stop anyone from working for a different organisation, that would probably be classed as a restriction of trade i guess if he wanted to fight it. The not playing against us could work, and as you say, we do hold his contract so we dont have to release him.

Probably though, our best option is just fleece whoever wants him for as much money as possible.

No our best option is to sign him if that is possible.

 

[Chewed]

I'm not sure you can legally stop anyone from working for a different organisation, that would probably be classed as a restriction of trade i guess if he wanted to fight it. The not playing against us could work, and as you say, we do hold his contract so we dont have to release him.

Probably though, our best option is just fleece whoever wants him for as much money as possible.

Depends. We just had Donaghy have to sit on the sidelines for 6 months because of some contract clauses.

Have some good lawyers I guess.

 

[007]

Why are the Broncos holding 'super secret' meetings with a player already at the club?

Contract value, start of season. Get it done while the other mass media is about Haas, Karl Umpalumpa, Robati, Cobbo etc.

Herbie is on a trajectory that is rising very quick. With the right coaching and team around him - IMO he will stamp his own brand in the game. Not many players can do that. Plenty of talent comes through juniors but runs out of fuel into their 20's. Herbie is a different cut in my limited opinion of watching him during games.

 

[Wolfie]

No our best option is to sign him if that is possible.

It would be, but it appears that ship has sailed.

 

[BooKhaki]

Out of interest the Courier Mail has stated he refuses to train with the Broncos(which goes against his contract obligations) and has been training with Norths Devils. Any truth to that?

And reading it, **** me dead are we being painted as the absolute villians in this.

So is Karl in danger of being sued since he is not fulfilling his contractual obligations despite not having a legit reason not to?

If he refuses to fulfil his contractual duties, then don't pay him. If you don't turn up for work you don't get paid. If the club is unable to withhold pay for legal reasons, then we should absolutely take legal action.

I'd get him into training but not allow him to do anything. He is there to retrieve balls, hold pads, clean up after the sessions.

 

[TimWhatley]

I still don't get the hype surrounding this kid, maybe I need to see him play live. His highlights are just him running through a bunch of kids like a forward. When has anyone seen that sort of thing work in the NRL from a 5/8? Even if he is kicking and passing well it's because he the other kids can't tackle him.

You aren't afforded these luxuries in the NRL. The mental side is more important and this kid hasn't shown much in that department.

 

[Foordy]

I'm not sure you can legally stop anyone from working for a different organisation, that would probably be classed as a restriction of trade i guess if he wanted to fight it. The not playing against us could work, and as you say, we do hold his contract so we dont have to release him.

Probably though, our best option is just fleece whoever wants him for as much money as possible.

it would be the same as in EPL where a club can reject a transfer offer from a rival for one of their contracted players.

the EPL clubs can use any criteria they want to when deciding to reject or accept a transfer offer.

it would be a different story if he didn't have a contract

 

[Sproj]

Contract value, start of season. Get it done while the other mass media is about Haas, Karl Umpalumpa, Robati, Cobbo etc.

Herbie is on a trajectory that is rising very quick. With the right coaching and team around him - IMO he will stamp his own brand in the game. Not many players can do that. Plenty of talent comes through juniors but runs out of fuel into their 20's. Herbie is a different cut in my limited opinion of watching him during games.

I get all the reasons for timing and all for it but why do they have to be 'super secret' at a restaurant out in the open for all to see? I mean, the cone of silence would be more secret than this.

And also, are they actually SURE he verbally agreed? Did they have a translator there?

 

[Johnny92]

With the 500k transfer fee other clubs will have to pay him a minimum of 620k (500k + min wage cause he expects a top 30 contract) for a guy who hasn't even played a NRL game.
This is a way of the Broncos saying you want a top 30 contract and all this we'll show you if any other clubs think your worth it.

 

[Mustafur]

It would be, but it appears that ship has sailed.

Why is this the exact opposite of what is reported?

What do you know about this?

 

[Sproj]

Once someone publicly states "I will never play for X as long as I live", it's a pretty hard ask to then play for X. Furthermore, maturity plays a huge part in a person's ability to admit they were wrong and do so publicly. I doubt Karl will be playing for The Broncos any time soon.

As long as he isn't playing for any other NRL club any time soon either, that's fine with me.

 

[the_next]

More Herbie’s, less Karl’s.

Put Herbie in the leadership group. He is the definition of a role model rugby league professional.

 

[Foordy]

Why are the Broncos holding 'super secret' meetings with a player already at the club?

that's just Badel for you.

Herbie and DD are both recognisable faces in Brisbane, if they actually wanted to keep these meeting secret, they wouldn't have been held in a public place in the middle of Brisbane, where dozens of fellow dinners could have recognised them ... hell, having the meeting in DD's (or Herbie's agent's) office would have made them more secret.

this would have been more along the lines of a "wine and dine" type meeting to convince Herbie to stay

 

[WASSHHH]

More Herbie’s, less Karl’s.

Put Herbie in the leadership group. He is the definition of a role model rugby league professional.

I feel like this should be printed on shirts and handed out to everyone at the first home game.