Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2025

[broncsgoat]

His salary for 2025 was going to be 950k, that's what his market value is for 2025. The NRL are yet to decide whether that will remain, but as it stands that's his value and that's what clubs have to get close to at the very least.

I think anyone hoping the NRL are going to go from 950k to half that are living in delulu land. Maybe around 700k but that's still more than we can afford.

not if we fire mam into the sun

 

[1910]

His salary for 2025 was going to be 950k, that's what his market value is for 2025. The NRL are yet to decide whether that will remain, but as it stands that's his value and that's what clubs have to get close to at the very least.

I think anyone hoping the NRL are going to go from 950k to half that are living in delulu land. Maybe around 700k but that's still more than we can afford.

We don't know that yet, a contract hasn't been lodged. If four clubs make offers of 600k they're not going to say he can't play until someone offers him 950k.

That's why they don't value a player until they see the offers or contracts.

Two ways they can get his contract down is depending on how long this takes to sign. If he doesn't sign until January that's 150k less, you have to offer him and if the second year is a lot cheaper you can save some more money there. He's going to have to take one of the two years cheaper and the second one makes more sense.

I think someone will get him for 1.2 for two years.

But no the NRL haven't valued him yet.

 

[1910]

It opens up an interesting can of worms. If they put his value at 950k, of course no side is offering anything near that. So what do the NRL do? He’s officially without contract. If he can’t get one because he is valued at that, does the NRL force St George to still pay him? If he can’t sign a cheaper deal and that means he has no club, he’d sue the NRL for an easy win.

Dragons can't pay him, he's been terminated, and that release was based on we don't pay you for 25 Hunt accepted that condition. He's walked away from that money.

 

[TimWhatley]

The Roosters tried to play coy and pretend they could afford both of them, but they obviously couldn't and Pearce was quickly shipped out.

Even if you buy into the idea that clubs can't announce signings until they're under the cap, Cronk reportedly signed a $2 million over two years with the Roosters.

According to the Internet they were both on the books at the same time. Cronk even tried to convince Pearce to stay. The only way what you're saying could be true is if they signed Cronk, were over the cap, then forced Pearce to leave. They also signed Tedesco that off season but I'm not really sure on the timeline of things.

 

[theshed]

My gut feeling is Tommy might just be happier being back closer to family and he might just go and play cup. He's got some decent offers but doesnt want to move to Sydney or Melbourne.

Surely one of the QLD clubs could throw him a cheap deal. He’d be a great depth option.

 

[BroncsFan]

According to the Internet they were both on the books at the same time. Cronk even tried to convince Pearce to stay. The only way what you're saying could be true is if they signed Cronk, were over the cap, then forced Pearce to leave. They also signed Tedesco that off season but I'm not really sure on the timeline of things.

I don't believe the cap is lump sum based... i.e. Cronk's $1m doesn't automatically get added to Pearce's $800k (or whatever).

Instead it accumulates as the year goes on.

So rorters cap would've been accumulating Cronk's $1m at $83k per month + ~$66k per month for Pearce.

That can be manageable for however long whilst rorters were finding a new home for Pearce... but it would mean rorters were losing cap the longer they waited to get rid of Pearce.

It's the reason why TPJ could be signed by panthers in 2021 for like $250k, because he was only signed for like a third of the year due to how late the NRL moved the June 30 date out.

 

[Wolfie]

Surely one of the QLD clubs could throw him a cheap deal. He’d be a great depth option.

His decision could be less about footy now with all thats gone on for them the last few years. Its not really a money thing now i dont think. Its more deciding if its time to come home or not.

 

[theshed]

His salary still sits on the cap if he retires... only medical retirement comes off the cap or mutual decision to cancel contract.

I mean, if he retired would that be a mutual decision to cancel the contract? He can’t just say I’m retired and not playing anymore but you have to pay me

 

[theshed]

His decision could be less about footy now with all thats gone on for them the last few years. Its not really a money thing now i dont think. Its more deciding if its time to come home or not.

He’s from Brissy right? I guess you may mean he isn’t interested in all the travel an NRL player has to do

 

[BroncsFan]

I mean, if he retired would that be a mutual decision to cancel the contract? He can’t just say I’m retired and not playing anymore but you have to pay me

He can if he wanted to though...

A lot of players do just retire with a mutual cancelling of the contract, but some sort of payout is probably arranged as part of it and that would sit on the cap.

In general the length of the contract has to sit on the cap unless they mutually agree to terminate it. It's becoming more common to terminate mutually because a player wants to get a longer contract somewhere else (for security), but can't leave because the club is refusing to release that player unless someone takes the full contract... so they mutually terminate so the player can get security with a longer deal but smaller money... Bhunt doing that now.

There was something several years back now when there was talk about a club signing an older player to a long contract even though he was never going to see the end of that contract... it was going to be backended and everyone could see the rort they were trying to do. Sign a good player on a backended deal, they retire early and get a payout off the cap... which is where the focus on medical retirement vs normal retirement came into the mainstream.... and also employing a player after they retire if they do take a mutual termination.

GI retired due to mental health, which fell on medical grounds and allowed him to get a payout without it counting on the cap... then rabbits employed him straight away and that money he was being paid was put back on the cap. That didn't last long though and GI went off to play in ESL.

Burgess got medical retirement for his shoulder, which I think was granted and he got a monster payout for like 4yr remaining on his contract, but he went off playing again in ESL... not sure what happened with that one and whether any of the contract had to be counted, but I don't think it did.

Darius had PO's left on his deal... he could've activated those years knowing full well he wasn't going to make it, but if he did he would've been entitled to that money. He didn't activate it, which allowed broncos to recover from what would've been an horrendous contract to live with.

An interesting case study will be Lolo... he's still got 3yr left on his deal, but is slowing down... I can see him mutually terminating that contract, but it will be a lot of money to give up. It may be more likely he gets a 'medical retirement' soon to get a full payout, but regardless of that I think cows are desperate to get rid of that contract.

 

[Wolfie]

He’s from Brissy right? I guess you may mean he isn’t interested in all the travel an NRL player has to do

He's from Redcliffe originally, then Wamuran. He has offers from 3 NRL clubs as far as i know, and a couple of Superleague teams but my feeling is he wants to come back to Queensland. I dont think it would bother him TBH if he did just go and play cup and put family first now.

 

[TimWhatley]

I don't believe the cap is lump sum based... i.e. Cronk's $1m doesn't automatically get added to Pearce's $800k (or whatever).

Instead it accumulates as the year goes on.

So rorters cap would've been accumulating Cronk's $1m at $83k per month + ~$66k per month for Pearce.

That can be manageable for however long whilst rorters were finding a new home for Pearce... but it would mean rorters were losing cap the longer they waited to get rid of Pearce.

It's the reason why TPJ could be signed by panthers in 2021 for like $250k, because he was only signed for like a third of the year due to how late the NRL moved the June 30 date out.

Thanks for the explanation

 

[Sanjit Joseph]

idk if it has been mentioned here but read a report that Frank Ponnisi prefers to stay in Melbourne. Bronx looking more at Peter Parr. FP would have been really nice, don't know much about Parr but seems to have a good rap on himself- cowboys, blues, knights

 

[Sproj]

idk if it has been mentioned here but read a report that Frank Ponnisi prefers to stay in Melbourne. Bronx looking more at Peter Parr. FP would have been really nice, don't know much about Parr but seems to have a good rap on himself- cowboys, blues, knights

Yep what a $urpri$e Poni$$i $tayed in Melbourne with the $$torm.

 

[Gaz]

Yep what a $urpri$e Poni$$i $tayed in Melbourne with the $$torm.

Parr?

 

[theshed]

idk if it has been mentioned here but read a report that Frank Ponnisi prefers to stay in Melbourne. Bronx looking more at Peter Parr. FP would have been really nice, don't know much about Parr but seems to have a good rap on himself- cowboys, blues, knights

I hear a lot of good things about Parr but the cowboys, knights and blues don’t exactly ooze success

 

[Wolfie]

I hear a lot of good things about Parr but the cowboys, knights and blues don’t exactly ooze success

He was here iirc early on in his career, then had that long stint at the Cowboys.

 

[Dexter]

One day someone will challenge the NRL on valuation. It has to be a restriction of trade if they are stopping a player from choosing there employer. If Hunt is willing to accept a lower offer because he sees more potential for a Premiership I just cannot see how the NRL can step in and stop it.
They have auditors to check the deal is legit.

Besides there are current examples, as other have pointed out, where players have signed for less than other offers and have been waved through.
Wighton is the most obvious accepting a $3.4 mill deal from the Rabbits and turning down $4.4 mill from the Raiders.
The Raiders even referred it to the NRL, so a decent precedent I would have thought.