mrslong
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I was thinking about this last night - is there a chance that Ikin was the bloke that said we shouldn't re-sign Herbie, Flegler etc?
I was thinking about this last night - is there a chance that Ikin was the bloke that said we shouldn't re-sign Herbie, Flegler etc?
We simply couldn't afford them. Pretty simple IMO.I was thinking about this last night - is there a chance that Ikin was the bloke that said we shouldn't re-sign Herbie, Flegler etc?
Ikin was pretty much on gardening leave at the backend of 2022 so I doubt it.I was thinking about this last night - is there a chance that Ikin was the bloke that said we shouldn't re-sign Herbie, Flegler etc?
Ikin was pretty much on gardening leave at the backend of 2022 so I doubt it.
I dont necessarily think the decisions to let them go were wrong, but the plan on replacements was wrong.
Cobbo was looking elite at left centre, but his replacement was 5 game rookie in Mariner... who was fine but his strength isnt meter eating so we didnt really replacement the 150m and quick ptb that Herbie brought.
The depth behind Mariner was then an aging Oates, Pereira and Hoeter... relying on them as fulltime first graders if literally anything happened to someone in our back 5 was a ridiculous risk to take.
Flegler was even less of an issue in my mind... Willison and BTK were always coming through and Willison has been one of our best middles.
The issue is that they didnt replace Capewell at all and then panicked on Gos... and their replacements for Palasia havent turned out... although I think Hunt hasn't been given much of a go as a middle forward and I would like to see that before throwing him on the scrap heap.
Baker could end up more like a Jensen replacement to be honest. Starts out as a toiler but gets better the more footy he plays... he needs to get a whole lot more aggression into his game though
Rorters are apparently only offering him 900k (on the cap). If he's serious about coming back to Brisbane then I'd be offering a mil and letting Cobbo and/or Staggs walk to make it happen. A spine of Walsh, Mam, Walker, Mozer could be the future Aus/ Qld makeup and is a 10 year+ proposition.Walker's kicking game is and was so much better than Black's kicking game.
I have said this the last two Meninga seasons- Black kicks high and long out of the right pocket and hopes the winger or fullback drop it.
Sometimes it works, round one this year against Dolphins when Kama dropped them but is Dylan Edwards going to drop three kicks?
In the Origin he kept going to it and New South Wales didn't drop a single one, Black didn't mix it up or kick short or try and upset their rhythm just kept bombing out of the right-hand corner. Stewart kept eating it up and making ground.
I think his one dimensional kicking game is a big reason he hasn't played well in finals.
Walker has kicks off both feet, both sides of his feet and catches fullbacks and wingers out every week and always has.
Flegler was probably always covered purely because Willison was looking the goods last year before injury, so it was only going to be time before he could step up... it's come quicker than expected though. Also had BTK that was going to be the Willison replacement and play a handful of games.I think all of this could have worked if we were as lucky with injuries as 2023 though to be honest.
Interesting. Seems like there are issues with recruitment and retention. Doesn’t seem to be any good. I think having a prop as your highest paid player is as smart as it sounds.I was thinking about this last night - is there a chance that Ikin was the bloke that said we shouldn't re-sign Herbie, Flegler etc?
so now we'd have a prop that has missed most of the season with a busted shoulder that will most likely cause early retirement, and another expensive centre that should be on the wing and a slightly better meter per game percentage.Interesting. Seems like there are issues with recruitment and retention. Doesn’t seem to be any good. I think having a prop as your highest paid player is as smart as it sounds.
Would trade Haas for keeping Flegler and Herbie,
Flegler's injury involves using hindsight.. He seemed fine when we finished last season.so now we'd have a prop that has missed most of the season with a busted shoulder that will most likely cause early retirement, and another expensive centre that should be on the wing and a slightly better meter per game percentage.
Flegs would be fine if he didn’t relocate to Reddy and play in the game that he injured his shoulder in. The old butterfly effect.so now we'd have a prop that has missed most of the season with a busted shoulder that will most likely cause early retirement, and another expensive centre that should be on the wing and a slightly better meter per game percentage.
correct but was always going to happen, he had issues prior. I think Haas gets a little unfairly judged because he generally always performs , he's still very young for a prop.Flegler's injury involves using hindsight.. He seemed fine when we finished last season.
I hope you’re right @BroncsFan…Baker could end up more like a Jensen replacement to be honest. Starts out as a toiler but gets better the more footy he plays... he needs to get a whole lot more aggression into his game though
Imagine that with the Broncos #7 on his back.Walkers short kicking game is incredible. The amount of times he manages to beat the legs on the line is so impressive.
As we always struggle with bench selections, we also end up needing the big minutes from hass and carrigan.correct but was always going to happen, he had issues prior. I think Haas gets a little unfairly judged because he generally always performs , he's still very young for a prop.
That would be coolRorters are apparently only offering him 900k (on the cap). If he's serious about coming back to Brisbane then I'd be offering a mil and letting Cobbo and/or Staggs walk to make it happen. A spine of Walsh, Mam, Walker, Mozer could be the future Aus/ Qld makeup and is a 10 year+ proposition.