Broncos V Sea Eagles (SPOILERS)

The Rock said:
No, moving Hunt to 5/8 is NOT a possible solution, it's ridiculous. Some of you must be absolutely blind, why would you weaken a position to strengthen another? ESPECIALLY when Hunt at fullback in the last few games has been outstanding and faultless. Hunt CANNOT move from Fullback, I'm seriously getting tried of seeing people throw it up. Hunt isn't even a good 5/8. So why bother?

It's not that I want this for the side but trying him at 5/8 couldn't be any worse than having Stagg there IMO.
Boyd has proved himself at fullback.
I remember the exact same things being said about moving Locky to 5/8 and that worked out reasonably well.
 
Hmm i forgot about Marsh. Don't think Boyd would be good 5/8 but ive never seen him do it so i dont know.
I think we will be starting with Stagg at 5/8 and have Marsh coming on 20-30 mins through the game and pushing Stagg into forwards or onto bench. Could also have Moon swop with Stagg sometime through the game-I think this will happen sooner all later. Moon needs to get a few good back to back 80min games in the NRL and i think he will be quite good. His defense is was good 1 on 1 thisarvo he just flings them to the ground, realy amased me.
 
The Rock said:
No, moving Hunt to 5/8 is NOT a possible solution, it's ridiculous. Some of you must be absolutely blind, why would you weaken a position to strengthen another? ESPECIALLY when Hunt at fullback in the last few games has been outstanding and faultless. Hunt CANNOT move from Fullback, I'm seriously getting tried of seeing people throw it up. Hunt isn't even a good 5/8. So why bother?

Amen mate, particularly the line in bold.
 
I'd be happy with Moon at 5/8th. He wouldn't have to do too much playmaking, he'd just have to act as an "inside centre" and let Wallace, Ennis and Hunt take care of the rest. Right now, Stagg does nothing in attack for us there.
 
Alec said:
I'd be happy with Moon at 5/8th. He wouldn't have to do too much playmaking, he'd just have to act as an "inside centre" and let Wallace, Ennis and Hunt take care of the rest. Right now, Stagg does nothing in attack for us there.
Yea I think Moon will play good at 5/8 aswell but leaving most of the playmaking to Wallace. If he runs the ball every now and then and chucks a few good passes he will be doing alot better then Stagg does at 5/8.
 
The Rock said:
Dexter said:
[quote="The Rock":ex3nda3c]
No, moving Hunt to 5/8 is NOT a possible solution, it's ridiculous. Some of you must be absolutely blind, why would you weaken a position to strengthen another? ESPECIALLY when Hunt at fullback in the last few games has been outstanding and faultless. Hunt CANNOT move from Fullback, I'm seriously getting tried of seeing people throw it up. Hunt isn't even a good 5/8. So why bother?

It's not that I want this for the side but trying him at 5/8 couldn't be any worse than having Stagg there IMO.
Boyd has proved himself at fullback.
I remember the exact same things being said about moving Locky to 5/8 and that worked out reasonably well.

Boyd proven him at fullback? So? That's besides the point.

Hunt is so valuable to us at Fullback that it would be stupid to move him anywhere else.[/quote:ex3nda3c]

The point is we can kiss our season goodbye if we persist with Stagg at 5/8.

We need a different halves combo with a 5/8 who can threaten in attack and has the ability to take control of a game.
Obviously if Locky comes back all is fixed, but really it looks more likely we will be without Locky for at least an extended period if not the season.
Looking at the players available we don't have a lot of options.
 
I want to see Moon get a chance, he cant do any worse then Stagg. Moon is faster and proberly more of a play maker, Stag just tackles realy. Moon and wallace could be a lethal combo IMO. Im just going to keep saying it until dumbtard Bennet/Henjack give it a go.
 
Where the hell were our forwards today? They went missing. The missed tackles was atrocious. The amount of offloads allowed was disgraceful and the gaps that we left wide open was just pathetic. Boyd, Moon, Kemp and Robinson need to be taught how to catch a damn high ball. I am sick and tired of seeing this crap week in week out. And I cannot believe that it hasn't been fixed yet. They are great attacking players, but defense wise they can't even read the damn play, or catch a high ball, which is an essential skill for an outside back. It needs to be fixed because we seem to concede so many tries there.

Hunt pretty much plays in the 5/8 position at the moment and he was the only player today that managed to pull his finger out. Stagg at 5/8 is like putting Berrigan at halfback. A fruitless and frustrating exercise, because it will never deliver results.

We shut up shop way too early today, and for the 8th round, it is a little disconcerting to see. Major improvements need to be made with the outside backs. Conceding offloads to a constant problem that never seems to be addressed and the lack of dominant tackles is astounding. These problems are not knew, but I can't believe that they are not being addressed.
 
calm down it was one loss, they happen and will happen again.......... it was a disrupted week, the poor defence on our line has been there all year and against a very good defencive side we couldnt get back into it without some missing players......... so far we havent been able to beat the better teams, Storm, Titans & now Manly, but we are still playing basically the same.......
 
broncosil said:
Where the hell were our forwards today? They went missing. The missed tackles was atrocious. The amount of offloads allowed was disgraceful and the gaps that we left wide open was just pathetic. Boyd, Moon, Kemp and Robinson need to be taught how to catch a damn high ball. I am sick and tired of seeing this crap week in week out. And I cannot believe that it hasn't been fixed yet. They are great attacking players, but defense wise they can't even read the damn play, or catch a high ball, which is an essential skill for an outside back. It needs to be fixed because we seem to concede so many tries there.

The backs have been going well this year. The forwards have softened up a bit in the last few weeks, but the backs were going well. I don't think it's fair to imply that they do this everyweek, because they clearly do not. Besides, what's the mean age of our outside backs? 21 or 22 i'd say. They are young fellas that are trying their hearts out, and have done well up to this week. Cut them some slack.
 
Yeah what's with the panic stations? Agree though about the 5/8 issue. Stagg is clearly not adjusting. But moving Hunt there isn't the answer. He was glorious under the high ball today. I reckon some of those catches today were the best in his career.
 
Like I said in my post, their attack is great, something I don't have a problem with. But we do concede a lot of our tries through our centres and wing. While it may seem that I am panicking, I do believe there is a cause for concern if these issues aren't addressed now. Catching a high ball is important, and players like Boyd have been there long enough, so the "lack of experience/too young" excuse is not good enough. They all need to read the play better than what they are, or we will end up at the business end of the season with serious problems in our defense.
 
broncosil said:
But we do concede a lot of our tries through our centres and wing. While it may seem that I am panicking, I do believe there is a cause for concern if these issues aren't addressed now. Catching a high ball is important, and players like Boyd have been there long enough, so the "lack of experience/too young" excuse is not good enough. They all need to read the play better than what they are, or we will end up at the business end of the season with serious problems in our defense.

So does every other team in the competition. All i'm saying is one off game, albeit a very bad one, isn't enough to hide out in the panic room. Boyd in particular has been outstanding this year playing in a number of different positions.
 
Steve said:
He was glorious under the high ball today. I reckon some of those catches today were the best in his career.

Yeah definitely, and he's had some brilliant ones as well.

We missed Carroll's sting in the forwards and Hodges' physical presence and experience out wide.

It was disappointing mainly because we were so unenthusiastic but hopefully the team can rebound and regain a bit of fire.

And what's the deal with Hannant? Is it anything serious?
 
lyn said:
I want to see Moon get a chance, he cant do any worse then Stagg. Moon is faster and proberly more of a play maker, Stag just tackles realy. Moon and wallace could be a lethal combo IMO. Im just going to keep saying it until dumbtard Bennet/Henjack give it a go.


I thought it had been clearly pointed out that Moon is NO 5/8. He's a centre.

I'd rather Marsh.

As for Stagg, he's a backrow forward/lock. IMO, playing him at 5/8 is a poor option.

In any case, this loss is a wake-up call we'd better listen to, or the Rabbits will embarrass us.

As for relying on 3 or 4 class players ... pffft. It's the TEAM playing as one, and for each other, and for the club and fans, with passion and enthusiasm that's important for mine.
 
Our fowards killed us today, all this winger and centre defence or the question of who will fill the 5/8 is an after thought for me, our fowards failed to support, failed to pass and staggered around like the Thorn, Carlaw and aged company they were meant to be replacing... very troubling and I think Henjack needs to be looked at a little bit too, he has sent them into this game thinking that 20 minutes of good footy and a 10 point lead will get it done... and we all saw how that ended.
 
Chumba said:
Our fowards killed us today, all this winger and centre defence or the question of who will fill the 5/8 is an after thought for me, our fowards failed to support, failed to pass and staggered around like the Thorn, Carlaw and aged company they were meant to be replacing... very troubling and I think Henjack needs to be looked at a little bit too, he has sent them into this game thinking that 20 minutes of good footy and a 10 point lead will get it done... and we all saw how that ended.


I think Henjak is just out of his depth.
 
rnabokov said:
Chumba said:
Our fowards killed us today, all this winger and centre defence or the question of who will fill the 5/8 is an after thought for me, our fowards failed to support, failed to pass and staggered around like the Thorn, Carlaw and aged company they were meant to be replacing... very troubling and I think Henjack needs to be looked at a little bit too, he has sent them into this game thinking that 20 minutes of good footy and a 10 point lead will get it done... and we all saw how that ended.


I think Henjak is just out of his depth.

I highly doubt one week of training from Henjak without Bennett by his side would result in a performance like todays effort. The forwards have been getting slack over the last few weeks and today they came up against an opposition that can run over the top of a forward pack that is putting in a half arsed effort. Our last two win have been on the back of great individual performances from backs and halves and Sam Thaiday eusa_think . We will be better next week I have no doubt.
 
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