Broncos youngsters under threat from poachers.

[austin71]

I'm hoping Joe is right too but talanoa has been right about so much in the past so I'm worried!

 

[broncos4life]

It's all in your head mate... true story!

That has no relevance to what I said at all and now instead of answering my question you are just baiting

Really poor form from someone who is both an admin and a person that regularly criticised people for doing exactly this

 

[broncos4life]

I'm still stuck on the quote from Bennett about no longer losing players we want to keep ... you can't tell me that we didn't want to keep at least one of J Nik, Parcell and Taylor

I have no doubt we wanted to keep all of them, except they all want to play first grade now. Meaning that they would only stay if a spot was vacant, so do you think we should have dumped our in form halves pairing for them?

 

[broncos4life]

I'm hoping Joe is right too but talanoa has been right about so much in the past so I'm worried!

Smokin' joe has been right about more.

 

[Foordy]

I have no doubt we wanted to keep all of them, except they all want to play first grade now. Meaning that they would only stay if a spot was vacant, so do you think we should have dumped our in form halves pairing for them?

Then maybe Bennett shouldn't have made such a bold statement that he couldn't back up with actions ...

his statement wasn't along the lines of "We will no longer lose players that we want to keep, unless of course, they want to play first grade and their path is blocked by two players that i have already stated will be the long term halves of this club"

his statement was a flat "we will no longer lose players we want to keep" - so one could reasonably assume from that statement that we didn't want either Parcell or Taylor (since they are both gone) and J Nik if he goes .... otherwise his statement was just plain BS.

 

[Morkel]

If they want to go, **** them. Ben Hunt just looks more and more the exception in a world of "want it all now". Give him the captaincy and a life contract.

What this says to me is they all think they deserve a first grade spot, but aren't willing to back their ability to ursurp any of the incumbents.

I'm not willing to lose Boyd, Milford or Hunt for any of them, so as disappointing as it will be, and as damaging as it is to our depth, if they're going to act like entitled brats then I don't want them at the Broncos.

 

[Stix]

Well said, if they want to chase the money let em go

 

[Kimlo]

Then maybe Bennett shouldn't have made such a bold statement that he couldn't back up with actions ...

his statement wasn't along the lines of "We will no longer lose players that we want to keep, unless of course, they want to play first grade and their path is blocked by two players that i have already stated will be the long term halves of this club"

his statement was a flat "we will no longer lose players we want to keep" - so one could reasonably assume from that statement that we didn't want either Parcell or Taylor (since they are both gone) and J Nik if he goes .... otherwise his statement was just plain BS.

Or maybe, there's a salary cap and we can't keep every junior.

Also, maybe, he rates Hunt/Milford ahead of those juniors, so he did keep the players he didn't want to lose.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to get caught up on a statement like that in the world of the NRL and salary caps and no salary caps with clubs like the Roosters.

 

[Foordy]

Or maybe, there's a salary cap and we can't keep every junior.

Also, maybe, he rates Hunt/Milford ahead of those juniors, so he did keep the players he didn't want to lose.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to get caught up on a statement like that in the world of the NRL and salary caps and no salary caps with clubs like the Roosters.

I think it is just as ridiculous (if not more so) to make said statement in the first place

 

[1910]

That's just a petty attitude; Parcell for example. 68 ISC games and has done his time trying to get a top 25 gig. What's he supposed to do at 22 when the Broncos can't offer anything else but Jets for 15 games and maybe 6 with Brisbane, no money and second tier v Three year deal at Manly and top 25.

Bagging him for not wanting to play ISC forever boggles the mind.

Nikorima isn't leaving so your anger is misdirected there too.

 

[1910]

Then maybe Bennett shouldn't have made such a bold statement that he couldn't back up with actions ...

his statement wasn't along the lines of "We will no longer lose players that we want to keep, unless of course, they want to play first grade and their path is blocked by two players that i have already stated will be the long term halves of this club"

his statement was a flat "we will no longer lose players we want to keep" - so one could reasonably assume from that statement that we didn't want either Parcell or Taylor (since they are both gone) and J Nik if he goes .... otherwise his statement was just plain BS.

One wasn't even part of the top 25 and one was released from his contract. They didn't really lose them they let them go. They could have forced Taylor to stay.

 

[broncos4life]

Then maybe Bennett shouldn't have made such a bold statement that he couldn't back up with actions ...

his statement wasn't along the lines of "We will no longer lose players that we want to keep, unless of course, they want to play first grade and their path is blocked by two players that i have already stated will be the long term halves of this club"

his statement was a flat "we will no longer lose players we want to keep" - so one could reasonably assume from that statement that we didn't want either Parcell or Taylor (since they are both gone) and J Nik if he goes .... otherwise his statement was just plain BS.

I might be missing something, but what the **** does it matter what he said, things change all the time. There are so many variables that change on a daily basis. Maybe when he said that he thought that they would be able to keep them all but so many things have changed since then.

In any aspect what does it matter and how is it BS. All it was was a statement of his intentions, seems a really bizarre thing to be caught up on.

 

[broncos4life]

If they want to go, **** them. Ben Hunt just looks more and more the exception in a world of "want it all now". Give him the captaincy and a life contract.

What this says to me is they all think they deserve a first grade spot, but aren't willing to back their ability to ursurp any of the incumbents.

I'm not willing to lose Boyd, Milford or Hunt for any of them, so as disappointing as it will be, and as damaging as it is to our depth, if they're going to act like entitled brats then I don't want them at the Broncos.

This, so much this.

To be honest I think it says a lot about them too and it's not the qualities you want in your team.

 

[Kimlo]

I think it is just as ridiculous (if not more so) to make said statement in the first place

Why? I just said why even if we lose them, it doesn't mean it's because we wanted to keep them.
Taylor was signed till next year, we could have easily said "tough shit, you're staying it out".
Jnik hasn't left YET. Whether he does or doesn't, it's not exactly fair to start ripping into a one sentence line from the coach on a probability just yet.

Also if we're keeping both the Niko boys, maybe they were happy to let Parcell go, because realistically he's only bench impact with Macca around and either of the Niko boys can play that role. Having 3 players vying for a bench impact spot isn't realistic, you'll just end up with 3 unhappy players. No pointing hoarding juniors with no intention of playing them in the near future.

 

[Foordy]

This, so much this.

To be honest I think it says a lot about them too and it's not the qualities you want in your team.

unfortunately for us, the game has changed a lot in the last 20 years ... players like Hunt are a rarity in today game, they no longer hang around trying to get an opportunity ... they go where one presents itself.

 

[Foordy]

Why? I just said why even if we lose them, it doesn't mean it's because we wanted to keep them.
Taylor was signed till next year, we could have easily said "tough shit, you're staying it out".
Jnik hasn't left YET. Whether he does or doesn't, it's not exactly fair to start ripping into a one sentence line from the coach on a probability just yet.

Also if we're keeping both the Niko boys, maybe they were happy to let Parcell go, because realistically he's only bench impact with Macca around and either of the Niko boys can play that role. Having 3 players vying for a bench impact spot isn't realistic, you'll just end up with 3 unhappy players. No pointing hoarding juniors with no intention of playing them in the near future.

seems to work for the Roosters

 

[broncos4life]

I think it is just as ridiculous (if not more so) to make said statement in the first place

No offence mate, but this is pathetic. Smacks of the fact that bennett hasn't delivered the doom that some forecast so the only thing you can criticise is statements he has made.

 

[broncos4life]

unfortunately for us, the game has changed a lot in the last 20 years ... players like Hunt are a rarity in today game, they no longer hang around trying to get an opportunity ... they go where one presents itself.

Then they are welcome to enjoy a career of mediocrity.