Broncos youngsters under threat from poachers.

[1910]

unfortunately for us, the game has changed a lot in the last 20 years ... players like Hunt are a rarity in today game, they no longer hang around trying to get an opportunity ... they go where one presents itself.

68 games......not enough hanging around for you?

 

[talanoa]

you can also look at it another way, with the impending interchange reduction coming in to play next season will coaches carry a small utility type player like the nikorimas and parcell or look to a more varied eve bigger utility with other attributes??? i personally think that hookers will need to go back to 80 minutes each week rather than rotate the number 9's like the current mould.
on a separate note also, its smart business for kids coming through right now to feally explore their options and push for first grade as they may play 30-50 top grade games over the next few years at oher clubs or they may only play half that if they are lucky at red hill with the depth at the moment. The reason i think it is smart business is if the bombers get a license it will improve their market value, have them more seasoned playing more grade and it will be enticing to bring them back to bris if they want too. just my way of thinking.

 

[Foordy]

No offence mate, but this is pathetic. Smacks of the fact that bennett hasn't delivered the doom that some forecast so the only thing you can criticise is statements he has made.

Thats BS mate ... at least from my POV. I was hoping to be wrong about Bennett, and I couldn't be happier that i was wrong about him. In fact, I have been very impressed with what he has been able to do this year...

doesn't mean i have to agree with everything the guy says or does.

It was a statement that simply wasn't necessary ... especially given that he couldn't guarantee he would be able to back it up with actions. He knew or at least should have known that these days the salary cap/lack of opportunity drives juniors out of clubs to look for greener pastures.

if the rumours are true about J.Nik, then we have gone from having plenty of cover in the spine positions to having a relatively bare cupboard. The spine positions (especially the halves) happen to also be, IMO, one the hardest positions on the field to develop ... and we had some good talent in our ranks.

and this is the last I will say on the matter unless it is confirmed that J.Nik is leaving ... when i will likely vent my frustrations.

 

[Foordy]

68 games......not enough hanging around for you?

if your talking about Parcell, then as you keep reminding us, he wasn't developed by the club and has only been on our books this year, so he hasn't hung around the club for 68 games.

 

[broncos4life]

Thats BS mate ... at least from my POV. I was hoping to be wrong about Bennett, and I couldn't be happier that i was wrong about him. In fact, I have been very impressed with what he has been able to do this year...

doesn't mean i have to agree with everything the guy says or does.

It was a statement that simply wasn't necessary ... especially given that he couldn't guarantee he would be able to back it up with actions. He knew or at least should have known that these days the salary cap/lack of opportunity drives juniors out of clubs to look for greener pastures.

if the rumours are true about J.Nik, then we have gone from having plenty of cover in the spine positions to having a relatively bare cupboard. The spine positions (especially the halves) happen to also be, IMO, one the hardest positions on the field to develop ... and we had some good talent in our ranks.

and this is the last I will say on the matter unless it is confirmed that J.Nik is leaving ... when i will likely vent my frustrations.

But it's just a fucking statement. I don't get it, I honestly don't.

 

[Foordy]

But it's just a fucking statement. I don't get it, I honestly don't.

then let agree to disagree or else we will be going around in circles all night pissing everyone else off

 

[broncos4life]

then let agree to disagree or else we will be going around in circles all night pissing everyone else off

Agreed

 

[1910]

if your talking about Parcell, then as you keep reminding us, he wasn't developed by the club and has only been on our books this year, so he hasn't hung around the club for 68 games.

Stayed at a Broncos' feeder club and knocked back 20's offers to play ISC waiting to get a shot for 68 games.

Kind of the opposite of your in my day old man rant and hugely unfair on him in my opinion.

 

[Unbreakable]

Stayed at a Broncos' feeder club and knocked back 20's offers to play ISC waiting to get a shot for 68 games

Are you implying that the Broncos weren't one of the U20 teams to offer him a contract? Because if they were, that makes your point completely moot.

 

[1910]

Are you implying that the Broncos weren't one of the U20 teams to offer him a contract? Because if they were, that makes your point completely moot.

No it doesn't because my point is venom directed at the wayward youth that don't know how to show patience is incorrect in the Parcell case. He could have chased or taken offers years ago and gone and got a stupid hair cut and played 20's. But decided ISC was best for his football staying with the Walkers and his local team was where he would get the best shot at NRL. Finished his degree too.

A lot of people are expecting things from him that they wouldn't expect from themselves; he's done his waiting time, he's done his time in lower grades and he deserves a top 25 contract, playing and training for free while playing for the Jets isn't fair. The Broncos could only put him on the second tier again next year so people are bagging him for not wanting another year of ISC and maybe five NRL games.

How many years would be enough to satisfy the moral outrage? Would he be a great Bronco if he stayed at the Jets till he was 30 and retired with his 50 NRL games?

What a waste of talent that would be.

(It's 69 ISC games; sorry.)

 

[abashii]

I can't find a link to any articles, does anyone have the full text to Bennett's quote? As I recall it was more along the lines of "we have to stop losing talented juniors we want to keep", not "I, Wayne Bennett, pledge in blood on my honour as a Bronco that we will never ever again lose any juniors we want to keep, so it can safely be assumed that anyone we do lose was forced out to make way for Darius Boyd."

 

[1910]

if your talking about Parcell, then as you keep reminding us, he wasn't developed by the club and has only been on our books this year, so he hasn't hung around the club for 68 games.

Jets have been the Broncos' feeder club since 2012- Parcell made his debut 2012.

 

[broncos4life]

I can't find a link to any articles, does anyone have the full text to Bennett's quote? As I recall it was more along the lines of "we have to stop losing talented juniors we want to keep", not "I, Wayne Bennett, pledge in blood on my honour as a Bronco that we will never ever again lose any juniors we want to keep, so it can safely be assumed that anyone we do lose was forced out to make way for Darius Boyd."

This. We could lose a talented young prop in the off-season of the 2020 season and it will be because of the recruitment of Boyd... and anyone that questions that statement will be met with gifs, claims of baiting and sarcastic comments in response to other peoples posts that have no relevance to the actual question that was asked.

 

[Morkel]

[MENTION=8272]1910[/MENTION], I'll happily agree with you regarding Parcell. You could argue that what got Parcell over the line in terms of attraction to NRL clubs was actually playing him in the top grade, on national TV, but his ability and development was predominantly Q-Cup (Broncos pre-season and pre-game training notwithstanding).

What does interest me though is this - did he want to get a gig with the Broncos, or was his playing with the Jets just a platform? Ie, playing for any NRL-affiliated club would suffice? If it's the former, than surely he would have known that he'd be stuck behind McCullough? Or with the uncertainty surrounding the potential Smith recruitment, did he see or was he advised that Macca isn't as safe as first thought? Or further to that, was a starting position with Brisbane not a necessity, just a Top 25 spot? If it's the latter, ie, his priority was to get any NRL gig, then I can fully understand, and admit that he "used" the Broncos to get exposure just as much as the Broncos "used" him to fill in for Nikorima.

Taylor though, he can get fucked. If JNik goes too, they can both board the HMAS Go **** Yourself together, hand in hand. They've been in the Broncos system for a long time, and the moment they think they are "ready" for the NRL they completely forget how much time & patience the Broncos have shown with them.

On Bennett's quote, in my opinion it can't be just written off. Someone of his deliberate, purposeful public comments wouldn't use a line like that unless he could back it up. So far Taylor is the only one confirmed, and I'll accept that he's one we were willing to let go. Jayden though is a different story, and I will be disappointed if he goes. Not because I think we desperately need him, but because it will mean that either Bennett has resorted to comments that he knows he can't back up, but are spoken to placate fans, or worse, he (and the Broncos) don't have the ability to retain talent as much as they thought.

 

[Renegade]

Taylor though, he can get fucked. If JNik goes too, they can both board the HMAS Go **** Yourself together, hand in hand. They've been in the Broncos system for a long time, and the moment they think they are "ready" for the NRL they completely forget how much time & patience the Broncos have shown with them.

What a ridiculous stance. They're kids looking for an opportunity at the highest level. You can't blame them for taking advantage of that. Are they morally obligated to stay here simply because we've developed them rather than chase their dreams and play first grade?

 

[john1420]

It really is about how Bennett meant the word "want"

We all "want" certain things, but some of those wants would just be nice while others are more of a need

It would be nice to have highly talented young players 4 deep in every position, but we need to have high quality 1-17

What I mean is, I took WB's statement to mean we are not going to lose a Ben Hunt or a Corey Parker, and of course, given the context it was said in, he also meant guys that are knocking down the door

But he surely didn't mean every talented kid coming through, even if he is 3rd on the pecking order

 

[Morkel]

What a ridiculous stance. They're kids looking for an opportunity at the highest level. You can't blame them for taking advantage of that. Are they morally obligated to stay here simply because we've developed them rather than chase their dreams and play first grade?

I suspect if they'd told the Broncos that they would be jumping ship the first time a big paycheck or position comes up, the Broncos would not have invested as heavily in them.

 

[Renegade]

I suspect if they'd told the Broncos that they would be jumping ship the first time a big paycheck or position comes up, the Broncos would not have invested as heavily in them.

I suspect if there was an opportunity to play first grade at Brisbane, they wouldn't be jumping ship. Fact is there isn't that opportunity available. So what are they to do? Waste away their career waiting for a chance, or fulfill their dreams elsewhere? You're looking at this through the eyes of a diehard fan, not of an 18/19/20yo that has no obvious opportunity to play first grade NRL at their current club. It's not as if they're in business and they have 20-30 years ahead of them to slowly move up. They've got 10 years, if they're lucky.

Besides, by being a prick about it and forcing them to stay, you're not only hurting your chances signing other youngsters in the future by making them rot in the reserves(might influence others if they feel they're gonna be locked down no matter what), you're cruelling your chances of perhaps re-signing them down the track when an opportunity is presented.