Coaching

[Alec]

I understand they are having a lot of success and it's very exciting. But I just don't get how quick play the balls for the opposition is a good idea. At least I can't see it being effective in the NRL. Quick play the balls pretty much win matches.

 

[Huge]

I wonder if our poor line speed, no wrestling, but great try line defence is inspired by this mentality.

Let them make metres and have one or two players make the tackle. The rest of the team don't have to constantly run forward then jog back. They may get to our try line but we back ourselves to hold them out and our team has covered significantly less ground, and used less energy.

The opting for 2 points if we get penalties near goal seems counter intuitive at first but if we take the tap we get 1 set in their 30 (defending on tried line. No need for them to run) and have a small chance to get a try or repeat set. If we kick, we get 2 points and a set from our own half. Each tackle the opposition runs 5 metres forward and 10 metres back. That's at least another 75m (5 tackles) plus the kick off chase and kick return.

Maybe I'm over analysing but it would be interesting to know how much ground each our team covers in total (on the ball + off the ball) compared to our opponents.

I would quote myself here from a post I wrote some time ago in which I stated that by conceding a few metres in the middle might be a WB ploy.

 

[1910]

AMONG the crowd on hand to see the Ipswich Jets' Queensland Cup weekend win was Brisbane Broncos coach Wayne Bennett. It is not the first time Bennett has watched the Jets play this season and, despite the entertaining brand of footy they play; we can assume he was not there purely for the entertainment on offer.
"He was there to look at our players," Jets chairman Steven Johnson said.
"The Broncos have signed Carlin Anderson and he was obviously running an eye over other players; like Nemani Valekapa, Rod Griffin and Josh Cleeland."
Given the season ending Achilles tendon injury suffered by Broncos prop Josh McGuire last start against Newcastle, it is no surprise if Griffin is top of that list.
Griffin earned himself a training contract with the Broncos last pre-season after a stellar 2014 for the Jets and has been on Bennett's radar since.
"I'm sure he would have liked what he saw," Jets co-coach Shane Walker said.
Walker said he did not speak to Bennett on Sunday, where the Jets beat Souths Logan 52-34, but it would "make sense" if he were there to run an eye over Griffin.
"He knows he can play," said Walker, for whom Bennett, who coached him at the Broncos, remains a mentor.
"He was impressed with his pre-season and their (the Broncos) front row stocks are starting to be compromised."
Another Ipswich product, Joe Ofahengaue, would appear to be next in line when the Broncos take on the Bulldogs in Sydney on Saturday.
Ofahengaue was re-signed by the Broncos last month until the end of the 2017 season after making his first grade debut for the club this season.
He has since spread his time between the Broncos, for whom he has played five NRL games, and the Jets.
But given Ofahengaue could still be playing under 20s, it also makes sense Bennett is keeping an eye out for a hardened, senior front rower to boost the Broncos ranks.
"I think Joe is next in line and he will be the one to play," Walker said. "But further down the line they've got a lot of inexperienced players."

Broncos' sights on Ipswich's Griffin | Ipswich Queensland Times

 

[1910]

WAYNE Bennett's presence at the North Ipswich Reserve to watch the Ipswich Jets for at least the third time this season last weekend proves the master coach sticks to the principles that made him the most decorated mentor in the history of the game. It also shows how seriously he takes the Jets' feeder club relationship with the Broncos and how successful the club has been keeping up its end of the bargain.
Bennett was at the Jets game against Souths Logan to run an eye over a number of Jets players, most notably prop Rod Griffin, who could be on the verge of a Broncos call up given the season ending injury to Josh McGuire last start against Newcastle.
"He's buying into our passion and the belief that we are capable of producing quality rugby league players," Jets chairman Steven Johnson said.
The proof could be seen in Jets and Broncos hooker Matt Parcell.
It was decided in consultation with the Jets coaches, Bennett and Parcell's dad Steve, that he would be better served playing for the Jets in the Queensland Cup for a couple of seasons than playing for the Broncos in the national under 20 competition.
Parcell has since starred for the Broncos in their surge to the top of the National Rugby League (NRL).
"Now he's a complete footballer," Johnson said.

Broncos mentor shows faith in Ipswich approach | Ipswich Queensland Times

 

[M.B.88]

Oooo i hope so! Thanks 1910 as always you're a start

 

[1910]

Josh Cleeland the latest to benefit from the coaching they're getting; Broncos, Titans and Panthers are chasing him.

 

[1910]

https://audioboom.com/boos/3413289-ben-walker-coach-of-the-ipswich-jets-july-28


Good interview with Ben Walker.

 

[Big Pete]

Sounds like they're ready for the big leagues.

 

[pennywisealfie]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...still-to-the-nrl/story-fnp0lyn3-1227460829137

 

[1910]

I don't question their courage at all; they're right in saying it's brave to play the way they do and to stick to their ideas about football. People don't understand and don't take the time to look in to it; too easy just to say 'touch football or ad hoc.' It's going to take a board listen and understand the concept and how it is really quite structured.

I question CEO's, boards and fans' courage to let them have ideas and challenge the norm.

The other big step is no coach has gone from ISC to NRL. Which is another barrier to break down; which in some ways will be the hardest.

 

[1910]

Newcastle are a good fit too; ready for change, no money and players need to understand football again. Walkers are perfect.

 

[Socnorb]

I don't question their courage at all; they're right in saying it's brave to play the way they do and to stick to their ideas about football. People don't understand and don't take the time to look in to it; too easy just to say 'touch football or ad hoc.' It's going to take a board listen and understand the concept and how it is really quite structured.

I question CEO's, boards and fans' courage to let them have ideas and challenge the norm.

The other big step is no coach has gone from ISC to NRL. Which is another barrier to break down; which in some ways will be the hardest.

Why do you reckon that is. That seems an odd one. or is it just that ISC is a new title for QRL first grade.

 

[1910]

Why do you reckon that is. That seems an odd one. or is it just that ISC is a new title for QRL first grade.

You need to be in a system; Green won two premierships in a row with Wynnum and then went and coached 20's at the Roosters and assistant to Robinson- then the Cowboys gig.

Hook had to go 20's first, Stone, assistant, Kevvie assistant, Henjak assistant, Demetriou assistant.

To be noticed you need to be at an NRL club; the perception seems to be get your 20's coaches and your assistants from the ISC then they move on from there to be a head coach.

 

[Socnorb]

You need to be in a system; Green won two premierships in a row with Wynnum and then went and coached 20's at the Roosters and assistant to Robinson- then the Cowboys gig.

Hook had to go 20's first, Stone, assistant, Kevvie assistant, Henjak assistant, Demetriou assistant.

To be noticed you need to be at an NRL club; the perception seems to be get your 20's coaches and your assistants from the ISC then they move on from there to be a head coach.

Oh I see. I misunderstood your Quote.

 

[M.B.88]

I really hope it happens. .

 

[1910]

WAYNE Bennett says Ben and Shane Walker can succeed as an NRL coaching package deal.
Bennett urged the Knights to consider giving the Walker brothers their long-awaited shot in the big league as Rick Stone’s fulltime successor.
Former Dragons coach Nathan Brown is favoured to clinch the Newcastle post, but Bennett is adamant the Ipswich co-coaches would not be out of their depth in rebuilding the Knights.
The Walker siblings will formally apply to coach the Knights in 2016 and believe their radical methods would bring a refreshing style to the structured world of the NRL.
In 2011, they inherited a wooden-spoon team, but have steered Ipswich to four
Intrust Super Cup finals series in five seasons despite inferior resources to cashed-up rivals Easts, Redcliffe and Townsville.
Ipswich are a feeder-club to the Broncos, prompting Bennett to conduct visits to appraise the Jets’ operations.
The Broncos coach, who quit the Knights last year to return to Brisbane after a turbulent three-year stint, rates the Walkers up to NRL standard.


“They’ve done a great job at Ipswich,” Bennett said.
“I’ve been to a few of their games this year and the whole facility is great. They (the Walkers) have done a wonderful job with a restricted playing roster and restricted funds.
“If they get an opportunity to be interviewed (for the Newcastle job), I hope it goes well for them.”
The Walkers are adamant their tactical approach can work in the NRL, but privately some leading coaches believe their methods will be exposed at the highest level.
The Walkers’ strategic plan is based around time-in-possession, not completion rates, and running teams ragged with constant movement.
Asked if the duo’s unique style, dubbed “contract football”, can succeed in the NRL, Bennett said: “There’s no reason why it can’t work.”
Of Newcastle’s decline, Bennett added: “You are always disappointed to see what’s happened there, but it’s not my problem anymore.”
Ben Walker understands why many believe their methods are high-risk, but says their style would flourish in the NRL because players are fitter, fulltime professionals.
“If we had the Ipswich guys fulltime, playing the style we do, they would be better again purely because they would have more time to work on our structures,” Walker said.
“Players in the NRL are fitter and would be able to execute our game plans.
“We will never be assistant coaches in the NRL because our philosophies are completely different to anyone else’s so it would be hard for a head coach to embrace our style.
“But we’ve definitely done our time. Over the past five years we wanted to be comfortable with the way we’re playing to be able to transfer it to the NRL.”

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...ys-wayne-bennett/story-fnp0lyn6-1227466851281

 

[1910]

Capewell and Cleeland being chased by Titans.

 

[1910]

IPSWICH co-coaches Ben and Shane Walker have moved a step closer to launching their NRL careers after being short-listed for the Newcastle post.
The battle for the Knights job was considered to be a race in three between Nathan Brown, Penrith NSW Cup coach Garth Brennan and former Broncos mentor Anthony Griffin.
But the Walker brothers have rocketed into the frame, with Knights officials contacting the pair to request their coaching CVs.
The brothers formally applied for the job last week and have been backed by Broncos coach Wayne Bennett, who has praised their unusual style which has turned the Jets into an Intrust Super Cup finals force.
The Walkers have spent five years refining their radical formula, dubbed “contract football”, and are confident their tactics can succeed in the structured world of the NRL.
Ben Walker declined to comment but his younger brother Chris, the former Origin star still playing with the Jets at 35, is adamant the duo would be a revelation at the Knights.
“Their coaching philosophies will work in the NRL, I have no doubt about that,” Chris Walker said. “People who think their style could not work haven’t watched the way we play or understand why we do the things we do in games.
“Ben and Shane have spent a long time working on their structures and trying to get things right. I hope they get a chance in the NRL one day because it will be a breath of fresh air for rugby league.
“As a player who is playing under their style, I’m loving it. They have created a great, inclusive culture at the Jets and they would be the right fit for the Knights.’’
While the Knights have sounded out the Walkers, the door remains open for Griffin, who was sacked by the Broncos 13 months ago.
The 48-year-old was last month appointed by Ipswich’s Intrust Super Cup rivals Redcliffe for next season, but the Dolphins would not stand in his way if Griffin clinched the Knights post.
Griffin went close to securing the Wests Tigers coaching gig this season, to lose out to Jason Taylor. He had four seasons at the Broncos, with a 53 per cent success rate.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...stle-knights-job/story-fniabnkr-1227480915922