Coaching

NEWCASTLE are staring directly at this year’s wooden spoon and are still without a coach for 2016.
They are also feeling salary cap pressure, so how can the club do a 360 on a budget and return to form next season?
Look no further than the Walker brothers, Shane and Ben.
In the running for Newcastle’s head coaching post, the pair have spent the past five years in charge of Queensland Cup side Ipswich, attracting acclaim for their unique style of play dubbed ‘contract football’.
But how does it all work and can it be transferred to the NRL?
In an exclusive chat with foxsports.com.au, Shane reveals the method behind the perceived madness and what they can offer the Newcastle club and community should they be appointed as head coaches for 2016.
PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS
Ipswich is run without the financial strength of a lot of their opposition.
Operating on a salary of about a third of Queensland Cup ladder leaders Townsville, the Walkers emphasize playing to their players’ strengths.
It’s a philosophy they are passionate about transferring to the NRL.
Shane Walker believes a lot of struggling NRL clubs are guilty of trying to emulate more successful franchises but that brand of football is unsustainable for every team.
“It’s coached to the strengths and abilities of our roster,” Walker said.
“If you’ve got someone who kicks a good 40-20, then you’re going to get yourself into a position to kick 40-20s. If you have a player who naturally has an offload or step, you’re not going to discourage them from using them.
“In the immediate term, you’ve got to deal with the players you’ve got and develop a game plan around their strengths.
“When you look at some of the teams that aren’t doing so well, they’re trying to mimic the way the Roosters play.
“It was fashionable for a period to mimic the Storm and Broncos at stages, but you can’t do that if you don’t have the players who will allow you to play that style.”
There’s no doubting the Knights have some of the most exciting young talents in the game.
With the Sims and Mata’utia brothers, Dane Gagai, Jake Mamo as well as the experience of Kade Snowden, Jarrod Mullen and 2016 signing of Trent Hodkinson, the Knights have a more than capable roster.
When asked who he was most excited about potentially working with next year, he said: All of them.
“You can see some of the boys are down on confidence and that can be easily re-established. They’ve got plenty of guys with speed and skill. They have some rugged forwards as well.”
APPEAL OF KNIGHTS JOB
The Walker brothers were one of the first to express their interest in the position following Rick Stone’s axing three weeks ago.
While the board began interviewing candidates earlier this week, the pair have not formally spoken to the club.
Walker described their dealings with the Knights as in the “very early stages”.
It has been reported that Nathan Brown, Garth Brennan, Anthony Griffin and Terry Matterson have already interviewed for the role.
Brown is the early front-runner to be appointed head coach thanks to his previous NRL experience, coupled with success in the Super League.
Brennan is also understood to be a serious candidate thanks to previous ties to the club and an understanding of the Newcastle community, but Walker believes one of their greatest strengths is that they also understand how one-team towns function.
“Newcastle is a real rugby league town and their community love their footy team, and we’ve been part of those one town teams with the Broncos and now we coach Ipswich. We know what the footy team means to the community,” Walker explained.
“Their results haven’t been where they’d like them to be and we’ve been part of that before having to rebuild winning cultures.”
TWO HEAD COACHES
The duo both retired from professional football in 2006 and have been in charge at the Jets since 2011.
Between them they have played over 300 first grade games, with Shane a hooker and Ben a half.
They spent five years together in Brisbane and the final two years of their NRL careers with South Sydney.
With just one year separating them, they have developed a twin-like telepathy where they can predict what each other is thinking throughout games.
Rather than sitting separately with one in the box and the other on the sideline, they both prefer to be by the field.
While Shane admits they have disagreements around how certain things should be done, having each other to bounce ideas off of is a huge string to their bow.
But how do they split up coaching duties?
“We have some really robust discussions away from the training pitch about how we’re going to play or train and how it’ll look,” Shane said.
“Some of the coaches we’ve had in the past that we’ve been coached under weren’t afforded that luxury of working out if their idea is good.
“That’s been a real strength for us — nutting stuff out so were not left red-faced in front of our players or fans on game day.
“Sometimes we don’t need to say anything because we know what each other are thinking. Often something will happen and we’ll say the same thing at the same time.”
TIME WITH BALL IS KEY
Shane Walker said their brand of football is a mixture of things they have picked up from different coaches over their playing careers.
One of the key core beliefs in their style is they discourage wrestling.
The Jets have eliminated the wrestle so they get through their defensive set quicker and then focus on having the ball for a longer period in attack.
In theory the opposition could get through their set in 30 seconds, whereas a Walker-coached side will take close to one minute.
“Actual physical time — seconds,” he said.
“Getting to your kicks is still important but what you do in that time you’ve got the ball is the difference.
“You can do five hit-ups and the defence doesn’t have to work or think. You’re challenged physically but not mentally or often at times laterally.
“We try and challenge the defence on each play where they haven’t moved up.
“The whole defensive line has to come up and forced into make a decision about what we’re doing.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...cess-on-a-budget/story-e6frf3su-1227482569089
 
With the greater emphasis on fitness next year in my view, of course it can work.

Just because the other defensive sides in NRL standard sides are fitter and generally better doesn't devalue the theory . If you get the greater part of the defensive line getting up and back repeatedly you fatigue the team over the distance yet your attack is not expending an overly large effort. When you defend you allow a faster play the ball but shorter time in possession. Playing clean doesn't mean you don't make a lot of good solid tackles , the team simply has to scramble to defend when beaten by the speed of the attacker.

Next years interchange is another helpful development but the idea is solid even without that.
 
Me too. I'm too gutless to want to risk the Broncos hiring them, so someone else doing it is awesome.

Don't hurt yourself doing that backflip; the bandwagon will break your fall though.

Style didn't work tonight up 18-0 and got rolled 36-28.
 
Me too. I'm too gutless to want to risk the Broncos hiring them, so someone else doing it is awesome.

The timing is perfect. they can go to Newcastle for a few seasons, prove themselves in first grade then we can hire them as Bennett successors when he's ready to retire. They get to come home and coach the Broncos.
 
Griffin was shortlisted?
 
Astute observation but I've read it somewhere before.....

THIS is the video that proves an NRL club must hire Ipswich Jets coaches Ben and Shane Walker and why Wayne Bennett attends every Jets game.

The most innovative coaches in rugby league today, the Jets score more tries from inside their own half than any other team.
Their methods have been copied by Broncos supercoach Bennett who has wound the clock back with Brisbane this year to return them to their entertainer status.

The Walker brothers are in the running for the Newcastle Knights job after the Jets finished third this season.
They play the Northern Pride in week one of the Intrust Super Cup finals in Ipswich this Sunday afternoon, televised live on Channel Nine.

http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/n...ry-fniabjcr-1227507500967#load-story-comments
 
I'm so glad the Walker brothers are so innovative they coached their players how to side step and palm players off. I mean, I've never seen anything like it before. That video didn't show anything. I understand they like short kicks offs and passing early in the set, but that video had none of that.
 
I'm so glad the Walker brothers are so innovative they coached their players how to side step and palm players off. I mean, I've never seen anything like it before. That video didn't show anything. I understand they like short kicks offs and passing early in the set, but that video had none of that.
While I can see your point I think the actual reason for the video was solely to showcase the talent of Cleeland and it does that very well indeed. What the Walkers are doing is attracting interest from the rugby league community and that's because it is innovative and we seldom see any change to the game that could be described that way. Actually you are proving with your description of the video that the fundamentals are still the same, that is namely stepping ,palming, kicking for your teammates etc but the innovative part is using their passing game to involve the entire defensive line on every play. The longer Ipswich retain possession the longer the defensive line has to be moving and if it moves in a staggered formation it forces holes or gaps to appear with the added bonus of tiring out the defence generally which in turn leads to even more breaks in the defensive structure.
 
While I can see your point I think the actual reason for the video was solely to showcase the talent of Cleeland and it does that very well indeed. What the Walkers are doing is attracting interest from the rugby league community and that's because it is innovative and we seldom see any change to the game that could be described that way. Actually you are proving with your description of the video that the fundamentals are still the same, that is namely stepping ,palming, kicking for your teammates etc but the innovative part is using their passing game to involve the entire defensive line on every play. The longer Ipswich retain possession the longer the defensive line has to be moving and if it moves in a staggered formation it forces holes or gaps to appear with the added bonus of tiring out the defence generally which in turn leads to even more breaks in the defensive structure.

Yes and whilst I agree with all of that, their method of side stepping and palming was not taken by Wayne Bennett and any claim to that try off the kick off last week is wrong. I'd like to point out again that a similar try was scored by and Anthony Griffin coached team and he was far from innovative.
 
Yes and whilst I agree with all of that, their method of side stepping and palming was not taken by Wayne Bennett and any claim to that try off the kick off last week is wrong. I'd like to point out again that a similar try was scored by and Anthony Griffin coached team and he was far from innovative.

Few holes in that theory; Walkers have been coaching the Jets to do this since 2011. So how does a try in 2014 mean they weren't copied?

Also Bennett said in the press conference he came up with it 3 months ago; whose game has he been at for the last three months?

Jets did it against the Broncos this year too.
 
 
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Before I weigh in, I recommend everybody check out the video in the link because the highlights package is very entertaining.

With that said, I don't think Wayne has copied the Walkers at all.

If anything, the Walkers have taken a few pages out of the old Broncos playbook and tweaked them for the Jets.

I'm sure he's a fan of the Walkers and would love to see them enter the NRL as he's a fan of expansive football. He said as much when he described the Tigers play in 2005.

However, I don't buy into Bennett copying anything from Ipswich.

I don't remember Glenn becoming a front row, don't recall Nikorima playing wing, don't recall Kahu playing second row, don't recall Vidot playing prop...

Is Darius Boyd anything like Carlin Anderson?

Scoring tries off kick-offs is one thing, but that isn't a Walker innovation.

I think everyone can see the potential in the Walker brothers. But the incessant amount of shilling by the media and their fans aren't really doing them any favours.
 
All good points above but I don't think WB said he copied it as it's been around forever. I saw an origin game once that had the filthy scum win the scrum on their own twenty and immediately kick downfield ,resulting in a try I think. Crazy shit gets done on occasion but generally no one person has a patent on the move whatever it may be. WB is watching the jets because as a wise old man he knows he doesn't know everything and can still learn. He's not convinced that all others are wrong and his view is always right. If you watch the jets you are a far greater chance of seeing exhilarating football instead of the one off the ruck shit we see as standard fare.

You may have to put up with extra mistakes but over a season those early mistakes ( handling mainly ) become less frequent. Practice and repetition makes that a reality and even leads to players developing combinations that would never have existed. An example might be a winger on one side 'knowing' exactly what his mate on the other wing is going to do after coming right across the park and meeting up with him or one of those wingers 'knowing' what his prop intends to do, combinations that no team playing 'normal' football would ever develop.
 
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The innovation isn’t tries from the kick off; you’re right that’s been done since 1908. I have never seen or heard other coaches articulate it for the reason of teams chasing the ball- so if we go along the dead ball line there must be gaps on the other side. Then specifically practise it and have a call to do it before the kick off.

Ad lib football, sure players see a gap and spread it it’s been done with vision before.
 
If anybody deserves credit it's this guy...

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