[Confirmed] Ben Barba signs with Cronulla

[jean eric]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

I didn't say Barba was having a cry.

Every coach has a favourite that for whatever reason they see stuff in even if a lot of the fanbase can't (hello, T-rex?!?)

Be it favouritism, father/son or some of the more disgusting stuff that has been said; Bennett believes that Boyd will do the job at fullback better than Barba. At the end of the he is the one that will receive the accolades if it pays off and the criticism and consequences if it doesn't.

I'll put a scenario to you. Say Bennett comes in and is stupid enough to listen to the fans and plays Barba at fullback over what is his better judgement (rightly or wrongly, let's not start the merry-go-round again). Persists with that for a few years and Barba's form doesn't improve, the team doesn't and we continue the mediocrity. When questions are asked are you going to accept an answer of "well it was really important to keep Barba there because it's what the fans wanted and he want's to stay close to his kids and that's what's most important".

Well said broncos4life;2636906. You are the only one who's pretty smart here

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Well said broncos4life;2636906. You are the only one who's pretty smart here

This is the first and last time this will ever appear around here :)

 

[K-Style]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Is he staying or going? Conflicting articles everywhere:
Courier mail is running an article saying he has decided to stay.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

I didn't say Barba was having a cry.

Every coach has a favourite that for whatever reason they see stuff in even if a lot of the fanbase can't (hello, T-rex?!?)

Be it favouritism, father/son or some of the more disgusting stuff that has been said; Bennett believes that Boyd will do the job at fullback better than Barba. At the end of the he is the one that will receive the accolades if it pays off and the criticism and consequences if it doesn't.

I'll put a scenario to you. Say Bennett comes in and is stupid enough to listen to the fans and plays Barba at fullback over what is his better judgement (rightly or wrongly, let's not start the merry-go-round again). Persists with that for a few years and Barba's form doesn't improve, the team doesn't and we continue the mediocrity. When questions are asked are you going to accept an answer of "well it was really important to keep Barba there because it's what the fans wanted and he want's to stay close to his kids and that's what's most important".

I dont think anyone who wants to keep barba wants him to play fullback. Milford would be the fullback in the ideal broncos team with barba at 6.

My real concern with boyd coming here is that he has no competition for his spot. Bennett has shown he will play him no matter what. Without fear of losing your position, there is less motivation and i believe thats why he was so utterly crap at the knights. He knows bennett will never drop him.

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Is he staying or going? Conflicting articles everywhere:
Courier mail is running an article saying he has decided to stay.

Probably no-one really knows at this stage. Journalists like to take a punt and claim it and with most things being 50/50 they can have a 'scoop' most of the time

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

I dont think anyone who wants to keep barba wants him to play fullback. Milford would be the fullback in the ideal broncos team with barba at 6.

My real concern with boyd coming here is that he has no competition for his spot. Bennett has shown he will play him no matter what. Without fear of losing your position, there is less motivation and i believe thats why he was so utterly crap at the knights. He knows bennett will never drop him.

Yeah it was definitely that. No chance that his depression and all the other external factors had anything to do with it.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Yeah it was definitely that. No chance that his depression and all the other external factors had anything to do with it.

My point still stands tho. He was never dropped. Regardless of why he was playing shit, he was never dropped. That proves my concern is valid

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Barba has not been even a decent fullback since 2012

And Boyd has? epic lolz.

your posts are less about your concern for the broncos and more about your concern of being seen as right by a bunch of people you don't know on an internet forum.

Not quite, but damn I do love being right and having all the evidence in the world to prove it, especially after being told how wrong I am and how I know nothing.

Bennett wants Boyd to be fullback and that his decision, yep it's favouritism

But again, according to the bennett lovers he doesnt play favourites.

At the end of the he is the one that will receive the accolades if it pays off and the criticism and consequences if it doesn't.

Oh you mean like how he copped all that criticism and consequences for the Knights missing the finals in 2 of his 3 years there as coach? I certainly didn't see much criticism on here, all I saw were excuses made by the bennett faithful.

Yeah it was definitely that. No chance that his depression and all the other external factors had anything to do with it.

Well that's not allowed to be used to defend Barbas performances, so why is it for Boyd?

Probably no-one really knows at this stage. Journalists like to take a punt and claim it and with most things being 50/50 they can have a 'scoop' most of the time

Well the journalists were all knowing and reporting cold hard facts when they said that literally no other teams would sign barba and that his career in the NRL werent they? ;)

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Ben Barba a good fit for Cronulla Sharks, says Paul Gallen

Gallen claimed Barba, who still has two years left on his Broncos contract, earning around $900,000 to $1 million a year, could fit in at the Sharks, if the Broncos pay some of Barba's salary."Brisbane will obviously have to pay some of that, but there are not a lot of clubs left with $400-500,000 left under their salary cap ... we are one of those," Gallen said. "He is a player who can add some more strike to our side."

If this is true that is disgusting

 

[Kimlo]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

I respect Bennett even more for this, instead of pretending he'll be in the 17, he's been completely honest and told him he likely won't make it, so Barba genuinely know where he stands moving forward.

He can either knuckle down, play like his career depends on it and fight for a first grade spot, or have the option of going to a desperate club that will guarantee him a first grade spot every week.

 

[noisetheory]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

I respect Bennett even more for this, instead of pretending he'll be in the 17, he's been completely honest and told him he likely won't make it, so Barba genuinely know where he stands moving forward.

He can either knuckle down, play like his career depends on it and fight for a first grade spot, or have the option of going to a desperate club that will guarantee him a first grade spot every week.

if he absolutely killed it in pre season would he un-seat boyd for the fullback position?

we will probably never know but it seems no matter what he does, boyd will be the #1 in rnd 1.

 

[Kimlo]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

And while I'm not to keen on this whole triple B debate, what baffles me is those against the decision can't respect those who are for it. I rate Boyd over Barba right now, that's not me being a Bennett fan boy, it's a genuine opinion I hold that Boyd is the better overall player and saying Bennett is playing favourites is justifiable, but not an absolute fact, there is the possibility (and it is my belief) that Bennett genuinely rates Boyd ahead of Barba and being the head coach who will be accountable for the performance of the team, is getting Boyd because he believes it's his best chance of success.

I'm not saying I'm right and those against Bennett are wrong, that's a ridiculous stance to hold because there's no absolutes in any of this, neither are there any absolutes in the salary cap as none of us definitely know what each and every player is earning.

I'm just saying why can't we have a more reasonable discussion instead of speaking in certainties when there isn't any, and holding an us against them mentality. We're all Broncos fans who want the best for the club, some of us see the route to success differently but that doesn't mean it's because we're blindly for or against Bennett, there is a middle ground there.

I don't agree with everything Bennett has done but on the whole I think he's done a fantastic job so far with the decisions he's made which I believe have us heading into the coming seasons with a much greater chance of success than if the club chose to stick with Griffin and the path we were following.

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

if he absolutely killed it in pre season would he un-seat boyd for the fullback position?

we will probably never know but it seems no matter what he does, boyd will be the #1 in rnd 1.

In answer to your question probably not. Whether that is favouritism or not it just won't happen.

I honestly believe Barba's fullback days are gone. He doesn't have the speed anymore and speed is the only thing that made him what he was in 2012. I think he could be a decent 6 but not marquee money worth

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

And while I'm not to keen on this whole triple B debate, what baffles me is those against the decision can't respect those who are for it. I rate Boyd over Barba right now, that's not me being a Bennett fan boy, it's a genuine opinion I hold that Boyd is the better overall player and saying Bennett is playing favourites is justifiable, but not an absolute fact, there is the possibility (and it is my belief) that Bennett genuinely rates Boyd ahead of Barba and being the head coach who will be accountable for the performance of the team, is getting Boyd because he believes it's his best chance of success.

I'm not saying I'm right and those against Bennett are wrong, that's a ridiculous stance to hold because there's no absolutes in any of this, neither are there any absolutes in the salary cap as none of us definitely know what each and every player is earning.

I'm just saying why can't we have a more reasonable discussion instead of speaking in certainties when there isn't any, and holding an us against them mentality. We're all Broncos fans who want the best for the club, some of us see the route to success differently but that doesn't mean it's because we're blindly for or against Bennett, there is a middle ground there.

I don't agree with everything Bennett has done but on the whole I think he's done a fantastic job so far with the decisions he's made which I believe have us heading into the coming seasons with a much greater chance of success than if the club chose to stick with Griffin and the path we were following.

really well said mate. I hope it can be like that too

 

[Kimlo]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

if he absolutely killed it in pre season would he un-seat boyd for the fullback position?

we will probably never know but it seems no matter what he does, boyd will be the #1 in rnd 1.

In practice, Bennett probably believes he's unlikely to play well enough for this to happen. We can go back to arguing favouritism but as a coach, if media reports are to be believed, Barba is not a million dollar risk worth taking moving forward because he doesn't believe he'll play well enough to be first choice in any position.

By keeping him around another year, if he plays poorly again, it's going to be ridiculously hard to offload him to another club on his reported 1 million a year salary. It's a risk either way, but for the sake of the salary cap and the team moving forward, it's probably better this decision is made before next season begins.

 

[Morkel]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Is he staying or going? Conflicting articles everywhere:
Courier mail is running an article saying he has decided to stay.

They had a deliberately misleading title there. When comparing him to Mick Hancock, in reality they were saying they both faced a "you're not in our plans, but you can stay if you think you can force your way in, with no guarantees" ultimatum. The way they spoke of Barba's "decision" made it sound like the final decision was the same (ie, staying and fighting), where in actual fact that decision has not been made, or at least is not public.

 

[noisetheory]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

In answer to your question probably not. Whether that is favouritism or not it just won't happen.

I honestly believe Barba's fullback days are gone. He doesn't have the speed anymore and speed is the only thing that made him what he was in 2012. I think he could be a decent 6 but not marquee money worth

if he got back to his 2012 weight would he get his speed back? marmin said last year that griffin chose to fatten barba up and thats why he lost his speed off the mark.

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

if he got back to his 2012 weight would he get his speed back? marmin said last year that griffin chose to fatten barba up and thats why he lost his speed off the mark.

That's a good question, I honestly do not know.

As Bspwn said earlier it's a massive risk to take if Barba's reported wage is true