[Confirmed] Ben Barba signs with Cronulla

[GCBRONCO]

Re: [RUMOUR] Ben Barba to Cronulla

Barba at the end of the day has to do what he feels in his best interest and I certainly can't see the claims of him being greedy justified.

At the same time Bennett has a job to do and it doesn't involve avoiding the tough decisions, if he feels Barba doesn't have a future at the club then he has a duty to make it clear as he did for Carne, Cann and Hancock who were all outstanding players in their prime but needed a real wake up call. Carne and Cann went elsewhere and failed to make an impact while Hancock worked his backside off to find where he could still contribute to the first grade side week in and week out and went on to win 3 more premierships.

There is nothing stopping Barba from remaining, I'd prefer he would do so and take it onboard as a wake up call that regardless of where he plays his got a tough job ahead of him to regain the form he had, ultimately that's his decision and while I'd be disappointed to see him go I'd support that and wish him luck.

 

[Unbreakable]

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What was Barba's reason for moving to Brisbane again? Wasn't it to be closer to his girlfriend and kids? Are they moving back to Sydney with him?

 

[broncos4life]

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I'll put a scenario to you. Barba moves on to kill it at another club and Boyd does what he has been doing for the last 3 seasons at the Broncos. When questions are asked, are you going to accept an answer of "well, it was a decision of keeping Boyd happy, besides the surgery required to separate Boyd and Bennett's hips is quite risky"...?

If that scenario happens I will be the most filthy person on here, without question, and I won't accept any answer. And if that happens AP can requote this to prove it.

Doesn't seem to be a valid excuse for Barba, does it?

I'm not making excuses for anyone. I posted that because QUEENSLANDER was having a go at boyd claiming that he had a poor year because he didn't care because he knew he wouldn't get dropped. I put it to QUEENSLANDER that maybe those other factors are the reason and not just Boyd acting like an entitled brat. I didn't make a comparison to Boyd, I didn't bring Barba into it.

I have asked before (not sure why I bother asking again) but it would be great if everyone tried to read the context of a discussion or else it just makes everyone look like a fool (not that I need any help doing that).


QFT! :aetsch:

On a more serious note, the reported contract value for Barba for his last 2 years at the Broncos, does shock me as well, and if true, makes me understand Wayne's decision a bit better.
I do however, not for a moment believe that to be true. Why on earth would we offer that kind of coin to a troubled player such as Barba, who needed to move to Brisbane to be with his family? It makes no sense at all!

I agree it makes no sense, however the deal was done during an administration that signed Martin Fucking Kennedy for some ridiculous shit like 400k and played a winger that cannot pass the ball at 6 for almost an entire season. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

*I'm not saying that he was definitely getting that much, simply stating that if a group of people repeatedly make fucked decisions it's not out of the realms of possibility that they will make another fucked decision

Finally, @broncospwn...
You know my stance on the Triple B thing, but I do think your post is excellent, except for one thing...

Some of those against this decision don't respect some of those who favour it, but let's not kid ourselves... the opposite is also true!

I happen to support most decisions taken by Wayne, but will never get behind him bringing back his love child, and the assured fact he will have a mortgage on the Fullback position. If only for that fact, regardless of whether he's better than Barba or not, I wouldn't want Boyd at the club while Bennett is coach... ever!

My recollection of Bspwn's post was him asking for respect from both sides?

 

[Anonymous person]

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That's simply not true, but the fact is you can't answer my question so once again you have just deflected. I didn't ask you for a comparison between Barba and Boyd.

You claimed that on his day Barba is worth 900k+ and all I want to know is when was his last 'day'? can you answer me this?

he had a few days in 2013 when he was worth $900k.

If that scenario happens I will be the most filthy person on here, without question, and I won't accept any answer. And if that happens AP can requote this to prove it.

you mean like how I quoted your other doozies and you just brush them off as "things change, man"? lol.

 

[Broncoman]

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Ben Barba a good fit for Cronulla Sharks, says Paul Gallen



If this is true that is disgusting[/FONT][/COLOR]

Obviously the brains behind the signings of Reni Maituai, Karlos Filga, Brett Seymour and Corey Hughes were hard at work on this deal.

 

[broncos4life]

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he had a few days in 2013 when he was worth $900k.


you mean like how I quoted your other doozies and you just brush them off as "things change, man"? lol.

I made a comment on a article that said we were trying to offload him but there were no takers. 'Things change' is when another article is posted weeks later saying that he has 3 clubs wanting him. What the **** is wrong with that? all any of us can do is go on the information given.

You obviously have no intention of having a discussion, you simply want to (in your head) make people that don't share your opinion look foolish. Which isn't too hard seeing you just keep having these digs that are off topic and your other anti-boyd/bennett mates just sit in silence

 

[Porthoz]

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If that scenario happens I will be the most filthy person on here, without question, and I won't accept any answer. And if that happens AP can requote this to prove it.

Oh boy, now that's asking for trouble! :shocked:

I'm not making excuses for anyone. I posted that because QUEENSLANDER was having a go at boyd claiming that he had a poor year because he didn't care because he knew he wouldn't get dropped. I put it to QUEENSLANDER that maybe those other factors are the reason and not just Boyd acting like an entitled brat. I didn't make a comparison to Boyd, I didn't bring Barba into it.

I have asked before (not sure why I bother asking again) but it would be great if everyone tried to read the context of a discussion or else it just makes everyone look like a fool (not that I need any help doing that).

Just mentioning that if Boyd's issues are an excuse for his poor form, the same goes for Barba.

I agree it makes no sense, however the deal was done during an administration that signed Martin Fucking Kennedy for some ridiculous shit like 400k and played a winger that cannot pass the ball at 6 for almost an entire season. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

*I'm not saying that he was definitely getting that much, simply stating that if a group of people repeatedly make fucked decisions it's not out of the realms of possibility that they will make another fucked decision.

My turn to say I would be filthy if that were true... it's contract negotiations 101. The strongest party sets the terms, not the weakest one!

My recollection of Bspwn's post was him asking for respect from both sides?

Well, he started his post by saying that those who don't agree with Boyd's return, don't respect those who do... and this shit fight has well and truly been going on from both sides!

 

[Unbreakable]

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he had a few days in 2013 when he was worth $900k.

So in the last 2 seasons he's had a grand total of about 3 games where he was worth $900k, and yet he's a "steal" at that sort of money according to you.. Can you please explain how someone who is so inconsistent and hasn't really had any form to speak of in the last 24 months could possibly be worth that much money?

Things change bro, like Barba's skill level.

 

[Porthoz]

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he had a few days in 2013 when he was worth $900k.


you mean like how I quoted your other doozies and you just brush them off as "things change, man"? lol.

Wot? B4L is... "The Mole"? :shocked:

 

[Broncoman]

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Completely agree with this unbreakable

Barba over the last couple of years has shown some glimpses of what he is capable off at times but to earn anywhere near a million a year you would have to be on fire basically every week and dominate other teams. Barba didn't even look like a first grader at times this year and was one of the worst players in the team. The only players off the top of my head that would be worth anywhere near that are Inglis, Smith and Hayne (although he has left but he played this year).

 

[broncos4life]

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My turn to say I would be filthy if that were true... it's contract negotiations 101. The strongest party sets the terms, not the weakest one!

Yeah we had Gee doing our negotiations at that time. I think he is still booked in for that course.

 

[Alec]

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Completely agree with this unbreakable

Barba over the last couple of years has shown some glimpses of what he is capable off at times but to earn anywhere near a million a year you would have to be on fire basically every week and dominate other teams. Barba didn't even look like a first grader at times this year and was one of the worst players in the team. The only players off the top of my head that would be worth anywhere near that are Inglis, Smith and Hayne (although he has left but he played this year).

Thurston too, but that's pretty much it.

 

[Sproj]

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I'd say Slater and Cronk as well in an ordinary world.

 

[GoTheMilf]

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For FFS peeps we all have one thing in common here and that is for the Broncos to go all the way in 2015, so lets all get behind the team and the coach in whatever our master coach Bennett thinks is best for the team that will lift the trophy next season. The reason why Bennett has brought in Boyd and dismissed Barba is the actual fact of whom he thinks will do the job better in their assigned positions. You may call it favouritism but he is the coach who has the experience in coaching players and would possibly know better than all of us, especially Anthony Griffin.
So in saying he has got this wrong is only because your a hater of Boyd or a fan of Barba, for me I sit on the fence and support whatever call the coach Bennett makes as his record speaks for itself.
The current 2014 roster changes had to be made as look where we are now for the past 4-5 yrs of our recruitment-shocking to be honest!

Other players Bennett should release are Reed, Kahu, Lowrie and Dodds.

My 2015 lineup

Fullback: Daruis Boyd
Wing: Maranta
Centre: Hodges
Centre: Copley
Wing: Vidot
Halfback: Ben Hunt
Five eigth: Milford
Lock: Parker
2nd Row: Thaiday
2nd Row: Gillet
Front Row: Mcguire
Hooker: McCullough
Front Row: Garbutt

Interchange: Oates, Wallace, Ofahengaue, Alex Glenn
Although I think both of the Nikorima Bro could be used as Supersubs during the season. Ashley Taylor is also a great backup half as he had previously shown in the NYC grandfinal. With experience he will progress into a great Halfback, unfortunately I think the Broncos will lose him to another club as we already have Ben hunt who will possibly be with us until he retires.

 

[Anonymous person]

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So in the last 2 seasons he's had a grand total of about 3 games where he was worth $900k, and yet he's a "steal" at that sort of money according to you.. Can you please explain how someone who is so inconsistent and hasn't really had any form to speak of in the last 24 months could possibly be worth that much money?

Things change bro, like Barba's skill level.

its a steal because if he loses a couple of kilos and doesnt get injured in the freaking pre-season tournament like last year, he could win the dally M again. He could single handedly win multiple games for his team. Thats the type of player he is.

For as much as you guys carry on about poor old darius and his problems being the cause of his absolutely fucking shithouse performances over the last 3 years, you ignore the fact that Barba had more personal issues to deal with as well as some pretty serious and ongoing injuries.

You cant have it both ways. you either excuse BOTH barba and boyd for their performances because of personal reasons, or you excuse neither. You cant say Boyd is excused but Barba isnt.

Barba wasn't bad in 2013 either. he just wasnt 2012 good, because of everything that was going on. depression, breakup, injuries, drinking, gambling....

 

[ivanhungryjak]

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Barba won't cut it up at the Sharks for the exact same reason he couldn't do it here - there was no huge, mobile, ball-playing pack of forwards in front of him that can obliterate the opposition first to let him work his magic.

 

[Unbreakable]

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[MENTION=2115]Anonymous person[/MENTION]

There was a lot of reasons that Barba wasn't even remotely good this year, I'm sure the injuries and weight gain didn't help his cause, but as ivan just said, for him to get even close to what he did in 2012 he needs to be in pristine condition and somehow magically find a team that has nothing but bigs who all offload and a coach that is willing to devise an entire structure around getting him the ball in space.

It's just not going to happen dude, it's way too much to invest into a player who may never be the same again.

 

[Broncoman]

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Barba won't cut it up at the Sharks for the exact same reason he couldn't do it here - there was no huge, mobile, ball-playing pack of forwards in front of him that can obliterate the opposition first to let him work his magic.

Fifita, Ennis, Graham, Heighington, Gibbs, Gallen and Bukuya is a pretty good and mobile pack to be behind and it's arguably better than ours.