[Confirmed] Russell Packer -->Not the Broncos

re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

Well if we're living in the past. The Broncos are the best team in the competition bar none.

Just because he did X 10 - 20 years ago, doesn't make him a genius today.
Wtf ? According to what you consider logic , as you get older you forget what got you to where you are today, you know Nashy ,respected. I highlighted the fact that WB recruits to suit needs as any good coach and you shoot off on some numb nuts tangent. I didn't mention the word genius or imply he was one. I didn't imply the Broncos were the greatest team in the competition, I mean where the **** does that come from ? As for living in the past, every moment we are alive is immediately in the past. Just because WBs a grown up doesn't mean he's feeble minded...get over your hatred, it lessens you. Anyway, I thought you'd finished with the rugby league side of things and were heading off to support something else.....
 
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Sooo no to rehabilitation then?

you still didn't answer why you don't have a problem with the Manu Mau's of the world having a high profile, high reward job?
I did answer it many times, but you don't seem to be paying attention.

Yes, I have a problem with any criminal (which commits acts like Packer or Lui did) getting a free ride back into such jobs. The fact it happens, doesn't change my opinion!

Yes to rehabilitation, because unlike you, I don't think that coming back into society in a menial job and playing regional footy is worse than staying in prison, or doesn't provide a purposeful path back into society.
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

I did answer it many times, but you don't seem to be paying attention.

Yes, I have a problem with any criminal (which commits acts like Packer or Lui did) getting a free ride back into such jobs. The fact it happens, doesn't change my opinion!

Yes to rehabilitation, because unlike you, I don't think that coming back into society in a menial job and playing regional footy is worse than staying in prison, or doesn't provide a purposeful path back into society.

It's not about whether it's better than being in prison, when you have served your sentence you are free, it's not like it's a choice between the two.

You can't just continue to punish people
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

Why not?

Packer can have his high profile league career back when the victim fully recovers from having his head repeatedly stomped on.

Sounds fair.
 
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It's not about whether it's better than being in prison, when you have served your sentence you are free, it's not like it's a choice between the two.

You can't just continue to punish people

You still have not addressed my earlier post in response to yours. Yes you can when it is the NRL as effectively his ultimate employer imposing a sanction for his trangressions against the game, like they have done with Carney, and with players that have been guilty of drink driving.
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

A good majority of inmates in prison are almost incapable of rehabilitation unless they get outstanding support from everyone involved in their lives and incredible programs that can make them to change their ways. Most of these criminals have come from a background where violence, sex desires, drug use etc have been their only thing they've known and nothing will change that barring a miracle.

Packer I believe can be rehabilitated as he has been receiving all kinds of support from his girlfriend, the Knights and others. He also as far as I know hadn't committed this kind of offence before and his sentence might've scared him straight. I believe he will need some strict conditions outside for a while and I would force him to attend Alcohol treatment courses as he has had drinking problems in the past.
 
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I am watching NRL 360 late tonight (recorded it) Kent says that there were other incidences involving Packer whilst he was at the Warriors that did not get out, and that the Warriors supplied a file on him to the NRL. Kent does not think that the NRL will register his contract.
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

It's not about whether it's better than being in prison, when you have served your sentence you are free, it's not like it's a choice between the two.

You can't just continue to punish people
Yet, you want to continue punishing the victim for the sake of the criminal.

You need to brush up on your rehabilitation concept. The path to it is a bit longer than the jail corridor to the exit... :wink:
Having served a jail sentence doesn't equal being rehabilitated!
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

I am watching NRL 360 late tonight (recorded it) Kent says that there were other incidences involving Packer whilst he was at the Warriors that did not get out, and that the Warriors supplied a file on him to the NRL. Kent does not think that the NRL will register his contract.
For the first time ever, I hope Kent's right! :laugh:
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

Wtf ? According to what you consider logic , as you get older you forget what got you to where you are today, you know Nashy ,respected. I highlighted the fact that WB recruits to suit needs as any good coach and you shoot off on some numb nuts tangent. I didn't mention the word genius or imply he was one. I didn't imply the Broncos were the greatest team in the competition, I mean where the **** does that come from ?

It comes from the fact all the examples you provided were from when we were the greatest team in the competition.

His tenure at the Knights provides a lot of reasons to be concerned about his recruitment.
 
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What are everyone's thoughts on Locky backing Packers recruitment?
 
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I disagree, I think he recruits players that will give him the best chance at short term success, and rarely plans for the future (After he's retired from coaching)

I'd be very surprised if we sign any young talent from outside Brisbane in the upcoming Wayne Bennett era, expect seasoned veterans and reliable players.

I am sorry but that's just ridiculous and simply untrue. You obbviously haven't watched Bennett much over the last 35 years.

He always planning for the future.

He set up the EPDP at the Broncos in 2006.
He set up a similar set up with the Dragons and the Uni at Wolloongong.
He set up the QAS and the QRL/Emerging camps.
He went about a very deliberate plan to recruit the exact players and develop the exact players he needed to win in '85.
He developed most of the Raiders' players that eventually would bring them success.
Knights Flegg won the comp and 20's have been leading the comp at times this year.
16/17 of the 2006 side were all developed through the Broncos system.
Of the '92 side four weren't in the system when the club started five years earlier.
 
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Yet, you want to continue punishing the victim for the sake of the criminal.

You need to brush up on your rehabilitation concept. The path to it is a bit longer than the jail corridor to the exit... :wink:
Having served a jail sentence doesn't equal being rehabilitated!

I never said it was as simple as a jail sentence. Rehabilitation requires constant and consistent support and a clear path back into your profession. Dumping them into a menial job without those things will achieve nothing. I know you believe that no-one else knows anything as well as you do but I have actually had a fair bit to do with rehabilitation through my work.

If Packer wants to turn his life around there would be few better places than a football club with a strong culture.

As for the punishing the victim, yourself and the victim need to join the real world, that's life. Is it fair? maybe not, but life isn't fair.
 
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What are everyone's thoughts on Locky backing Packers recruitment?

I think he would know better than most what is best for the broncos.
 
re: [Confirmed] Russell Packer --> Panthers

I think he would know better than most what is best for the broncos.
Just like you and I old mate, he's got no idea, is out of touch,loves rewarding criminals, doesn't care about victims,blahddy blah blah....

Now we wait to see the response from the other posters !
 
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I am sorry but that's just ridiculous and simply untrue. You obbviously haven't watched Bennett much over the last 35 years.

He always planning for the future.

He set up the EPDP at the Broncos in 2006.
He set up a similar set up with the Dragons and the Uni at Wolloongong.
He set up the QAS and the QRL/Emerging camps.
He went about a very deliberate plan to recruit the exact players and develop the exact players he needed to win in '85.
He developed most of the Raiders' players that eventually would bring them success.
Knights Flegg won the comp and 20's have been leading the comp at times this year.
16/17 of the 2006 side were all developed through the Broncos system.
Of the '92 side four weren't in the system when the club started five years earlier.

Thanks 1910 !! Sometimes I think I'm the only one who sees things as they are, not blinded by hatred or jealousy .Then along comes someone such as yourself, armed with better information and factual data which supports my point of view. Means the dementia hasn't overwhelmed me yet !
 
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Anything Lockyer says should be taken with a grain of salt considering:

A) He's a board member
B) Him and Bennett go way back.

I mean, we all love him for what he has done for Brisbane and what he means to us as a club legend, but his actions on the field shouldn't mean everything he says, now that he's retired, should be taken as gospel.
 
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