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**** that was a farce wasn't it.
Oates is a gun. Fingers crossed his development is handled well
Corey Oates
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**** that was a farce wasn't it.
Oates is a gun. Fingers crossed his development is handled well
hidethesuspect
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- Sep 2, 2013
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Yeah I know, at first I almost shouted for joy when he hit Morris, but alas the ball spilled out, so close!
- Jul 27, 2013
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You've gotta think his best position will be Centre for next year, at least. Running lines on the right hand side off whoever our 5/8 is and running off Barba.
- Jan 25, 2013
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Yeah but despite one or two hiccups, Glenn defensively has been awesome on that right side. Between him & Reed they'd come close to the best defensive pairing in the game. It's also allowed Prince to move one position out in defence (between Glenn & the Maranta) which helps a lot, and will be equally beneficial if we have a rookie half next year or Milford arrives but is less than solid in defence.
- Jul 27, 2013
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I've been reading a few of your posts in relation to this and it seems your main point is that because he's scored a lot of tries, we should keep him there?
I would argue that Hoffman scores a shit tonne of tries down that side too. It's mainly due to Jack Reed and the quality ball we're able to get down that side. Not saying Oates isn't a great finisher - Because I think he's got tremendous Rugby League instincts - I'm just saying I think we should use him a bit closer to the fringes of the ruck where he can use his size and speed a bit more, ala the run and try against Newcastle the other week.
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Great point re: defence. It's always going to be a trade off. Do we know what Oates is like in defence? Alex Glenn can definitely play Centre, no questions...
- Jan 25, 2013
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There's a difference between doing it to cover injuries, doing it to strengthen the team, or doing 'just because he can play there'. TBH, rarely is the latter being discussed. Right now, we're alternating between covering injuries (Glenn to centre) and strengthening the team (Oates to centre).
A good example would be Aubusson for the Roosters this year. He's a back-rower that's been shuffling between the two positions all year, often mid-game, and it hasn't had a detrimental effect on their team.
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I was amazed at his speed again last night. In his break that resulted in Morris' shoulder charge, he just ran away from Inu as if he was standing still.
We could do a lot worse than a backline like this next season:
1- Barba
2- Hoffman
3- Reed
4- Copley/Glenn
5- Oates
6- Milford (if he comes)
7- Hunt
We could do a lot worse than a backline like this next season:
1- Barba
2- Hoffman
3- Reed
4- Copley/Glenn
5- Oates
6- Milford (if he comes)
7- Hunt
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- Mar 4, 2008
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Agreed, I really fear that we are going to hurt his development by playing him on the wing, like we did with Hunt at hooker.
- Sep 6, 2013
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Oates has to be in the side somewhere next year and I'd certainly put him in the trials at centre, he could be a real gun there for us. But then Glenn is great defensively so he has been good at centre. Just need an attacking right option and Oates might be good for that.
- Mar 5, 2008
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My whole point in wanting to play Oates on the wing is this, and I do not mean that is where he should stay for the rest of his career.
1. He is a gold mine. End of story. He is exactly what we need FOR THE TEAM in 2014. We need points. How many tries did our wingers score this year and who were the they? I rest my case.
2. He is 18 and learning the ropes. Wing is IMO a good place to start for someone like Oates who has clearly shown he can play there, enjoys it immensely, and outscores any winger we have except Hoffman (who is a specialist winger pretending to be a FB). On his contribution this year, he is therefore a gold mine for us while he comes to grips with 1st grade.
8 tries in 9 games? Yes please. Kahu is too slow, Drew is nowhere near Oates yet, if ever, and then there is Maranta
2. Wing is, unlike a number of idiot journos who say : "... relegated to the wing", a vitally important position yet has less pressure on a junior player as it is a specialist position with specialist skills BUT less than say a centre, who is required to perform a broader range of functions, with more pressure to perform them well or else ... like heavy defence, setting up plays, turning on a dime and chasing;
Again, Oates has taken to wing like a duck to water.
He is learning support play, finishing, catching and running. Anyone who can give Uate a run for his money = a good winger, and later, a good centre or back rower.
3. The last thing we need is to overload him at age 18/19. Sure, we can whack him in the forwards and use him as a battering ram under Hook's coaching methods but I feel that is both counter-productive, and we have enough back rowers at this point in time
4. Centre. For mine, Kahu is the ideal fit. He is relatively experienced, quick enough, has great instincts, a beautiful step and can pass. Ideal for mine until Hodges returns.
5. When necessary, Oates can always be benched if we are desperate, say through injuries to key players
Like I say, for mine, Oates has the potential to be the next Gene Miles. The last thing we need to do is to do a Norman on him and throw him in the deep end with only an ego for a life raft
To end my rant, the LAST THING HE NEEDS IS TO BULK UP. He is long and lean. He is not a Papalli, or Bukuya or Parker.
Hands off the pies Hook
1. He is a gold mine. End of story. He is exactly what we need FOR THE TEAM in 2014. We need points. How many tries did our wingers score this year and who were the they? I rest my case.
2. He is 18 and learning the ropes. Wing is IMO a good place to start for someone like Oates who has clearly shown he can play there, enjoys it immensely, and outscores any winger we have except Hoffman (who is a specialist winger pretending to be a FB). On his contribution this year, he is therefore a gold mine for us while he comes to grips with 1st grade.
8 tries in 9 games? Yes please. Kahu is too slow, Drew is nowhere near Oates yet, if ever, and then there is Maranta
2. Wing is, unlike a number of idiot journos who say : "... relegated to the wing", a vitally important position yet has less pressure on a junior player as it is a specialist position with specialist skills BUT less than say a centre, who is required to perform a broader range of functions, with more pressure to perform them well or else ... like heavy defence, setting up plays, turning on a dime and chasing;
Again, Oates has taken to wing like a duck to water.
He is learning support play, finishing, catching and running. Anyone who can give Uate a run for his money = a good winger, and later, a good centre or back rower.
3. The last thing we need is to overload him at age 18/19. Sure, we can whack him in the forwards and use him as a battering ram under Hook's coaching methods but I feel that is both counter-productive, and we have enough back rowers at this point in time
4. Centre. For mine, Kahu is the ideal fit. He is relatively experienced, quick enough, has great instincts, a beautiful step and can pass. Ideal for mine until Hodges returns.
5. When necessary, Oates can always be benched if we are desperate, say through injuries to key players
Like I say, for mine, Oates has the potential to be the next Gene Miles. The last thing we need to do is to do a Norman on him and throw him in the deep end with only an ego for a life raft
To end my rant, the LAST THING HE NEEDS IS TO BULK UP. He is long and lean. He is not a Papalli, or Bukuya or Parker.
Hands off the pies Hook
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