Could Bennett take Taylor from Titans?

JayPee said:
But do you really need him? Is he worth that much to your side on the field. I believe that the money could have been saved to poach Taylor next year. Bennett may have a plan to get him but I think Taylor would be a massive key. Only issue you guys have atm. A real dominant true halfback that can control a game
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Probably better off spending your whole cap rather than having an inferior team "just in case" somebody becomes available. I remember the meltdown alot of Roosters fans had last year when it was revealed they had 6 or 700k of unspent cap just in case one Jarryd Hayne wanted to play for them.
 
JayPee said:
I have a feeling that Taylor deep down really wants to be back playing for them but the Titans offer just may be too good to refuse. This is why I don't get the Bird signing. They probably would have been able to offer a realistic amount for him similar too Birds contract that may have been enough to persuade him back but now that ship has sailed I don't see how the Broncs get close enough to get him back with the big contracts they have given out recently.
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Yeah it's strange. And they could've let him walk recently if reports were true.
 
Having 2 halves of the caliber of Taylor and Milford will eat a lot of money out of the Salary Cap. Taylor will command pretty close to that Ben Hunt deal IMO.
 
Tom said:
Probably better off spending your whole cap rather than having an inferior team "just in case" somebody becomes available. I remember the meltdown alot of Roosters fans had last year when it was revealed they had 6 or 700k of unspent cap just in case one Jarryd Hayne wanted to play for them.
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Fair enough. I just think the fact that Bennett gave him a chance to get into first grade by letting him go and he followed the Broncos and was signed at a very early age that it was a very good shot that he would have came back if the money was relatively close. I suppose you can never really know. The same kind of loyalty could be given to the Titans also. Giving him that crack.
 
Porthoz said:
2001 to 2005, 2007 and 2016 -> Not contenders. That constitutes the majority of seasons under WB in the last 2 decades.

We pulled off a miracle in that Bulldogs semi to be honest. As amazing as 2006 was, we weren't really in it until Hodgo, Berro and Locky decided to singlehandedly win a premiership.

2008 and 2015 were our best years. Both hurt, because we were a bee's dick of winning it.
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Most successful coach in the game = sheer luck and teams that are more often than not out of contention.

You Sir have lost the right to accuse anyone of an agenda about anything.
 
"Bennett ball"... are people serious? We don't have the team of the 90's anymore, but what we do have is a team that is allowed to play exciting football once it earns the right too if we are stuck at our end of the field or making errors the term reverts back to basic and boring footy which is what should happen and all good coaches advocate-you guys have let the Sydney media get in your head, let me show you something.....

Bennett-less years: 8th, 12th, 8th, 10th, 6th, 3rd for an average of 7.83, missing the finals twice...

Last 6 years of Bennett-his least successful btw: 2nd, 1st, 8th, 5th, 5th, looks like 5th this year but we will say 6th for the Bennett haters... for an average of 4.5... not missing the finals at all

I can't fathom other fans questioning bennetts record (their best coach normally?-Bellamy has more potential future immortals in his team yet has won 1 legitimate premiership in 20 years and failed misserably at rep level and lost a gf 40-0 without the REAL coach playing-whereas Bennett has succeeded at origin and international level and won in different eras at different clubs, and got a team (the knights) their best result in 10 years when the players weren't getting bloody paid ffs!) but people from OUR club?! Seriously... this isn't the 90's anymore people, we aren't going to win the premiership 6 times in 10 years EVER again, BUT other fans hate us again because?????? We are a chance EVERY year with Bennett back...

He's won 7 bloody premierships in 4-5 different eras and got Canberra, Brisbane and the dragons to gf's. He won the kiwis the World Cup and gets the underfeatable Aussies! He pulled the maroons out of the ashes on multiple occaisions INCLUDING setting up the dynasty with the emerging origin players camp....

STOP listening to the Sydney media if you think any coach that is alive (jack Gibson could challenge Bennett for the title) if you people think any different!

However, In the last few years he has lost Cyril Connell and Ron Massey, his 2 most trusted advisors... this would affect his coaching but doesn't mean he has suddenly become worse then ANY other coach that is alive..

He knows and has seen more in the game then every journalist and fan put together probably, and he has something no fan seems to have... patience.......

"If you start listening to the fans, it wont be long till you're sitting with them in the stands"
 
Porthoz said:
2001 to 2005, 2007 and 2016 -> Not contenders. That constitutes the majority of seasons under WB in the last 2 decades.

We pulled off a miracle in that Bulldogs semi to be honest. As amazing as 2006 was, we weren't really in it until Hodgo, Berro and Locky decided to singlehandedly win a premiership.

2008 and 2015 were our best years. Both hurt, because we were a bee's dick of winning it.
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I think you're being a bit harsh, tbh.

We made preliminary finals in 2001 and 2002 - and were leading in both of them and should've gone on with the job.

I remember the final in 2006 and thinking things weren't that bad at half time. I know that sounds like a wank with the benefit of hindsight but we scored first and a couple of the Bulldogs tries were lucky and against the run of play.

Half-time was the best thing to happen to us. We were the better team. We just needed to take a breath and regroup.
 
The Knights are massively important for the NRL, they are a true heartland for the code. So many good players come from that area and the people there bleed blue and red...ok most of us do in terms of veins and arteries but you get the idea. I really want them to become a powerhouse again.

As for comments of the Roosters being 700k under the cap, they are never that far under the cap given how much they spend on other clubs juniors plus bringing star players in but it certainly sounds good when it comes to recruiting another big name later doesn't it as it causes few questions to be asked.

Finally, I am obviously biased but I see no reason for Taylor to show loyalty to the Titans. They gave him a shot because they had no one else and needed a halfback after the DCE debacle. They just got incredibly lucky we were willing to let him go to have a shot. He didn't want to leave and we certainly didn't want him to go, that opportunity was just too good to refuse. The only club he really should feel loyalty to is us. That said, money is very important too in such short careers.
 
And there we go, criticising one aspect of Bennett's coaching = Bennett sucks, so people lose their minds and start quoting all his achievements, blah blah.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
 
Porthoz said:
And there we go, criticising one aspect of Bennett's coaching = Bennett sucks, so people lose their minds and start quoting all his achievements, blah blah.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
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Nice argument. Some really valid points raised....
 
CaptainHook said:
I think you're being a bit harsh, tbh.

We made preliminary finals in 2001 and 2002 - and were leading in both of them and should've gone on with the job.

I remember the final in 2006 and thinking things weren't that bad at half time. I know that sounds like a wank with the benefit of hindsight but we scored first and a couple of the Bulldogs tries were lucky and against the run of play.

Half-time was the best thing to happen to us. We were the better team. We just needed to take a breath and regroup.
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I'm normally pretty optimistic, but at that point I thought we were cooked to be honest. We hadn't done anything particularly spectacular that season, even if you take into account the Knights annihilation the weekend before. If anything, 2006 had been a pretty average regular season.

2002 is probably harsh yes... I kinda forgot we did get closer than most other years.
 
Bucking Beads said:
Having 2 halves of the caliber of Taylor and Milford will eat a lot of money out of the Salary Cap. Taylor will command pretty close to that Ben Hunt deal IMO.
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He shouldn't come close to that imo he is only 2 years in . Still very green and needs to do a lot more in the game to command that coin.
 
10 news just reported titans want to lock up ash Taylor for life. There's gonna be some serious tears no matter what the kid does.
 
pagey said:
He shouldn't come close to that imo he is only 2 years in . Still very green and needs to do a lot more in the game to command that coin.
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Probably but he won't. The game is throwing a million dollars plus a season at Ben Hunt who hasn't and won't achieve the heights that people believe Taylor will reach.

If we don't or can't throw a million or thereabouts at him, he won't be playing for us. End of story unfortunately.

Letting him go was extremely admirable. But being decent people doesn't lead your club to premieriships. Ruthlessness does.
 
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