DCE backflips to stay at Manly

[Jeba]

No sympathy whatsoever for the Titans. All they ever seem to want to do is sign other teams players rather than develop their own. Taylor, Douglas, Myles, Idris etc.

All they have really developed in their existence is Sezer, James, Elgey and a couple of fast wingers and so so hookers. Pitiful return for how long they've been in the comp.

nothing makes me happier than to see this shit strategy backfire. All the more ironic that they lose their one decent product in Sezer because of it.

I can't agree with this.

Every club, no matter how good or bad their development program is, needs to look at signing marquee players if they want more chance of success. The Broncos would've had a hard time winning back to back Premierships without Glenn Lazarus despite all the talent at their disposal back then.

Some clubs have to spend more than others for players on the market. The Titans are in that category. Yes they need to improve but you'd think a big signing like DCE would've helped them there. There's no doubt he would be improved the team performance and that would lead to more interest and dollars from sponsors and thus more money that can potentially be spent on development.

 

[subsbligh]

Yes, rules is rules.

But DCE (ultimately it's his call to engage in that behaviour) used that rule, knowing he would build hope in Titans fans, solely for the purpose of building leverage for more cash out of Manly.

"Legal". Probably.

The right way to do business? Not in my book.

The right way to treat the man in the street fan of the game, who gives you a livelihood; not at all.

There's an allocation of blame all around - Manly for playing brinksmanship with their best player, DCE for abusing the Titans, the Titans for latching on and giving false hope, the NRL for shit rules.

But still. It's DCE's contract. It's his name in the headlines.

What do we think the next Gold Coast rugby league franchise will be called?

 

[mieko]

IMO, a backflip is a backflip. Just like there are no big coincidences or small coincidences, they are just, coincidences.

 

[broncos4life]

Do you have the same opinion of Josh Papalii?

Didn't the Papalli thing all happen over the course of a few days? Like he signed with the eels and a few days later changed his mind? DCE played this out over months and waited until the Titans had got rid of sezer to accomodate him and there were scraps left and then screwed them

IMHO there is no comparison between this and the papalli backflip.

DCE is a classless arrogant little prick, and that's coming from someone that loathes the titans

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

IMO, a backflip is a backflip. Just like there are no big coincidences or small coincidences, they are just, coincidences.

But they arent the same.

Tedesco signed with canberra, then backflipped after 7 days. 7 days! DCE has been... what 3 months? There is a massive difference.

The raiders had more time to look for replacements, or resign other players. The titans, thinking they had DCE, have wasted 3 months of searching for players, or resigning players. They have lost Sezer in that time and other players have resigned with other clubs so they have missed out on them too.

There is a big difference in the situations.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Didn't the Papalli thing all happen over the course of a few days? Like he signed with the eels and a few days later changed his mind? DCE played this out over months and waited until the Titans had got rid of sezer to accomodate him and there were scraps left and then screwed them

IMHO there is no comparison between this and the papalli backflip.

DCE is a classless arrogant little prick, and that's coming from someone that loathes the titans

Around 3 weeks it took for Papaplii. Nowhere near the months it has taken for DCE. For once, we can agree on something!

 

[Big Pete]

Didn't the Papalli thing all happen over the course of a few days? Like he signed with the eels and a few days later changed his mind? DCE played this out over months and waited until the Titans had got rid of sezer to accomodate him and there were scraps left and then screwed them

IMHO there is no comparison between this and the papalli backflip.

DCE is a classless arrogant little prick, and that's coming from someone that loathes the titans

You're thinking of Tedesco.

Papalli's happened over a longer period.

In fact, the shortest may have been Elgey who was signed, seal and delivered to the Sea Eagles before he backflipped and re-signed with the Titans.

Bottom line...

The round 13 rule is rubbish. Anyone who exploits it comes off looking bad. DCE came off looking bad months ago when it seemed like he was entertaining the idea. The fact he's confirmed it doesn't really change anything and if the Titans fold it isn't his fault.

 

[broncos4life]

Yes, rules is rules.

But DCE (ultimately it's his call to engage in that behaviour) used that rule, knowing he would build hope in Titans fans, solely for the purpose of building leverage for more cash out of Manly.

"Legal". Probably.

The right way to do business? Not in my book.

The right way to treat the man in the street fan of the game, who gives you a livelihood; not at all.

There's an allocation of blame all around - Manly for playing brinksmanship with their best player, DCE for abusing the Titans, the Titans for latching on and giving false hope, the NRL for shit rules.

But still. It's DCE's contract. It's his name in the headlines.

What do we think the next Gold Coast rugby league franchise will be called?

The Gold Coast Irrelevants

 

[broncos4life]

Around 3 weeks it took for Papaplii. Nowhere near the months it has taken for DCE. For once, we can agree on something!

Haha I'm sure we have agreed on something else, once, maybe?

But this is a unique situation

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

You're thinking of Tedesco.

Papalli's happened over a longer period.

In fact, the shortest may have been Elgey who was signed, seal and delivered to the Sea Eagles before he backflipped and re-signed with the Titans.

Bottom line...

The round 13 rule is rubbish. Anyone who exploits it comes off looking bad. DCE came off looking bad months ago when it seemed like he was entertaining the idea. The fact he's confirmed it doesn't really change anything and if the Titans fold it isn't his fault.

It wasnt the course of a few months. He signed with the eels on Feb 22 2013. By March 8 he had reneged. A grand total of 14 days.

 

[broncos4life]

You're thinking of Tedesco.

Papalli's happened over a longer period.

In fact, the shortest may have been Elgey who was signed, seal and delivered to the Sea Eagles before he backflipped and re-signed with the Titans.

Bottom line...

The round 13 rule is rubbish. Anyone who exploits it comes off looking bad. DCE came off looking bad months ago when it seemed like he was entertaining the idea. The fact he's confirmed it doesn't really change anything and if the Titans fold it isn't his fault.

True, papalii was longer than I remembered but in any case was no where near as protracted as this and pappas signing didn't mean anywhere near as much to the eels as DCE's did to the Titans.

I take the point that they are technically the same thing, but in actuality they aren't even close.

In any case **** the Titans and **** DCE. It's ironic because IMO both of them deserve each other

 

[Kaz]

There shouldn't have any cooling off period.

You sign a contract that's it, no getting out of it.

 

[Kimlo]

It wasnt the course of a few months. He signed with the eels on Feb 22 2013. By March 8 he had reneged. A grand total of 14 days.

I'm right with you on this. IMO, giving a week or two is fine, that's probably a normal period of time to change your mind. The way DCE has done it is purely to get the absolute best contract possible. That's all find and dandy within the rules, but I still think he's an absolute **** for how he's handled this, which is also within the rules, I don't have to respect his shitty behaviour.

 

[Jeba]

Graeme Annersley on 4BC now. He said he found out through the media, and that Neil Henry didn't receive the phone call from DouChE until he had also found out through the media.

 

[Big Pete]

To say that DCE doesn't have the right to backflip because he's a better and more valuable player than Papalii is rubbish. Both have the right to do as they please as per the stupid rule.

If nothing else, at least this won't be happening again.

 

[broncos4life]

To say that DCE doesn't have the right to backflip because he's a better and more valuable player than Papalii is rubbish. Both have the right to do as they please as per the stupid rule.

If nothing else, at least this won't be happening again.

I or no-one have said he doesn't have the right to do it, all I am saying is that he is a scumbag for doing it, which funnily enough is MY right.

There are plenty of things in life that you have the 'right' to do but you will be judged for doing it.

 

[Big Pete]

Most of them don't compare to somebody making the most out of their negotiations.

It's the hysteria and double standards I disagree with.

Or people acting like it's some great surprise that DCE would opt for the greatest deal when that's exactly what he did when he signed with the Titans.

 

[Kaz]

To say that DCE doesn't have the right to backflip because he's a better and more valuable player than Papalii is rubbish.

DCE had every right to backflip, but not drag it out for 3 months.

Then when the media ask questions he whinges & whines about it, yet he started this shit with his interviews.

For someone who likes his privacy he certainly loved the attention & virtually asked for the attention with his 'cryptic' hints in interviews.

Manly will be stuffed if DCE gets a major injury. (If that happens, I will be happy about both)