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I know there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before this happens BUT for years now we've been told about how good our halves prospects are and that broncos have 3 young halves coming through all with potential to be starting seven's for the next decade.

To date we have lost Tanah Boyd to the Tits and he is yet to make his mark on the game. Corey Paix is stuck in this awkward halfback filling in as a hooker kind of role (not to dissimilar to a young Ben Hunt) and is yet to make his mark on the game. And then you have dearden who is also yet to fire a shot and apparently been poached by other clubs.

How disheartening will it be while also highlighting a sign of the times at the broncos if the one position we supposedly had covered 3 times over turns out that none of these three even become regular first grade halves OR become stars for another club.

To really sink the boot in, throw ash taylor into the equation as another bronco's half who was touted by us as the next big thing and he too has achieived nothing yet.

Compare this is to the storm for example and ryan papenhuyzen. You wouldnt barely have known he existed than the storm debut him at 21 (possibly could have been 20 years old) and he's making an instant impact.

It really highlights a problem with our development ane scouting team in my opinion that our strike rate is so poor.
 

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I know there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before this happens BUT for years now we've been told about how good our halves prospects are and that broncos have 3 young halves coming through all with potential to be starting seven's for the next decade.

To date we have lost Tanah Boyd to the Tits and he is yet to make his mark on the game. Corey Paix is stuck in this awkward halfback filling in as a hooker kind of role (not to dissimilar to a young Ben Hunt) and is yet to make his mark on the game. And then you have dearden who is also yet to fire a shot and apparently been poached by other clubs.

How disheartening will it be while also highlighting a sign of the times at the broncos if the one position we supposedly had covered 3 times over turns out that none of these three even become regular first grade halves OR become stars for another club.

To really sink the boot in, throw ash taylor into the equation as another bronco's half who was touted by us as the next big thing and he too has achieived nothing yet.

Compare this is to the storm for example and ryan papenhuyzen. You wouldnt barely have known he existed than the storm debut him at 21 (possibly could have been 20 years old) and he's making an instant impact.

It really highlights a problem with our development ane scouting team in my opinion that our strike rate is so poor.
I think the biggest issue I've noticed from Tanah, Dearden and possibly Paix (haven't seen enough of him) is the total lack of a long kicking game. Combine that with Milf, Bhunt and Kodi, and we've basically had no long kicking game since PWall (and I dont even rate his long kicking at all) and no elite kicker since Lockyer!

Watching Clifford last year you can see he has a powerful and sweetly timed long kick... but he'll be plying his trade at Newcastle.

Corey Norman also has an effortlessly long kicking game... but his mentality is garbage when playing anything other than 7.

Taylor has a reasonable long kicking game, but not elite... and we decided to let him walk anyway.

If you dont have a strong long kicking game it is difficult to win the field position battle especially in the new NSWRL where there are no penalties, offsides, 6-agains, etc.

You just cant get to the other end of the field. The strong teams last year had great long kickers that could win field position CS9, Cleary, Moses and Reynolds, even roosters had Flannigan (not the most accurate long kick, but still decent distance wise).

I recall a set where Panthers were stuck in their own 30m and Cleary kicked it to the opposition 30m on the full on 3rd or 4th tackle. The fullback wasnt deep enough and the kick chase tackled the him on the 30m line after he finally recovered the ball... instant field position from a shithouse set

It seems like we've been going with run first/ flashy halves who look good in the juniors because they're bigger and faster... but if you have a Cleary or someone sitting in 7 you can afford to have one of those halves next to them. You cant afford to have two flashy halves with no kicking game
 
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I know there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before this happens BUT for years now we've been told about how good our halves prospects are and that broncos have 3 young halves coming through all with potential to be starting seven's for the next decade.

To date we have lost Tanah Boyd to the Tits and he is yet to make his mark on the game. Corey Paix is stuck in this awkward halfback filling in as a hooker kind of role (not to dissimilar to a young Ben Hunt) and is yet to make his mark on the game. And then you have dearden who is also yet to fire a shot and apparently been poached by other clubs.

How disheartening will it be while also highlighting a sign of the times at the broncos if the one position we supposedly had covered 3 times over turns out that none of these three even become regular first grade halves OR become stars for another club.

To really sink the boot in, throw ash taylor into the equation as another bronco's half who was touted by us as the next big thing and he too has achieived nothing yet.

Compare this is to the storm for example and ryan papenhuyzen. You wouldnt barely have known he existed than the storm debut him at 21 (possibly could have been 20 years old) and he's making an instant impact.

It really highlights a problem with our development ane scouting team in my opinion that our strike rate is so poor.
It’s an NRL trend to be fair. Other than Cleary and Munster what half has debuted in the last 10 years that will be remembered in history? Even les so if you specifically mean organising halves. It’s a dying position.
 

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I think the biggest issue I've noticed from Tanah, Dearden and possibly Paix (haven't seen enough of him) is the total lack of a long kicking game. Combine that with Milf, Bhunt and Kodi, and we've basically had no long kicking game since PWall (and I dont even rate his long kicking at all) and no elite kicker since Lockyer!

Watching Clifford last year you can see he has a powerful and sweetly timed long kick... but he'll be plying his trade at Newcastle.

Corey Norman also has an effortlessly long kicking game... but his mentality is garbage when playing anything other than 7.

Taylor has a reasonable long kicking game, but not elite... and we decided to let him walk anyway.

If you dont have a strong long kicking game it is difficult to win the field position battle especially in the new NSWRL where there are no penalties, offsides, 6-agains, etc.

You just cant get to the other end of the field. The strong teams last year had great long kickers that could win field position CS9, Cleary, Moses and Reynolds, even roosters had Flannigan (not the most accurate long kick, but still decent distance wise).

I recall a set where Panthers were stuck in their own 30m and Cleary kicked it to the opposition 30m on the full on 3rd or 4th tackle. The fullback wasnt deep enough and the kick chase tackled the him on the 30m line after he finally recovered the ball... instant field position from a shithouse set

It seems like we've been going with run first/ flashy halves who look good in the juniors because they're bigger and faster... but if you have a Cleary or someone sitting in 7 you can afford to have one of those halves next to them. You cant afford to have two flashy halves with no kicking game
Not sure who it was maybe 1910 , but it was noted that Dearden is a sweet striker of the ball .
 

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I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling in the pit of my gut the Cows will get their man.

The big play in the Broncos book has to be that they raided his Tweed team from 2018/2019- Walsh, Dearden, Piakura and Coates. He can play with his mates and I am sure that's what they would have talked about two years ago.
 

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The big play in the Broncos book has to be that they raided his Tweed team from 2018/2019- Walsh, Dearden, Piakura and Coates. He can play with his mates and I am sure that's what they would have talked about two years ago.
With all four being target that might not be such a big play
 
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I think the biggest issue I've noticed from Tanah, Dearden and possibly Paix (haven't seen enough of him) is the total lack of a long kicking game. Combine that with Milf, Bhunt and Kodi, and we've basically had no long kicking game since PWall (and I dont even rate his long kicking at all) and no elite kicker since Lockyer!

Watching Clifford last year you can see he has a powerful and sweetly timed long kick... but he'll be plying his trade at Newcastle.

Corey Norman also has an effortlessly long kicking game... but his mentality is garbage when playing anything other than 7.

Taylor has a reasonable long kicking game, but not elite... and we decided to let him walk anyway.

If you dont have a strong long kicking game it is difficult to win the field position battle especially in the new NSWRL where there are no penalties, offsides, 6-agains, etc.

You just cant get to the other end of the field. The strong teams last year had great long kickers that could win field position CS9, Cleary, Moses and Reynolds, even roosters had Flannigan (not the most accurate long kick, but still decent distance wise).

I recall a set where Panthers were stuck in their own 30m and Cleary kicked it to the opposition 30m on the full on 3rd or 4th tackle. The fullback wasnt deep enough and the kick chase tackled the him on the 30m line after he finally recovered the ball... instant field position from a shithouse set

It seems like we've been going with run first/ flashy halves who look good in the juniors because they're bigger and faster... but if you have a Cleary or someone sitting in 7 you can afford to have one of those halves next to them. You cant afford to have two flashy halves with no kicking game

This...and some.

Dearden's kicking is pedestrian compared to the likes of the other youngsters in Clifford, Brown or Tevita-Harris.
Twice he was too slow to get his boot to the ball and had air swings while being tackled. This talk of 'composure', over rated me thinks.
Let him develop 2 more years in ISC, Gamble/Croft and Kelly can pretty much do the same or better.
If he does decide to go, maybe a trade for Clifford?
 

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Yeah my big play was reliant on them staying and then convincing him to stay. Maybe I am not much of a card player.

The future of the Broncos lies with that group- fullback, half, Staggs and Piakura- just need a hooker.
This is completely off topic but I’ve always wondered, without giving anything away do any of you, Wolfie Wolfie, and Smokin' Joe Smokin' Joe or anyone else around here connected to the club, have any hunches who each other is?

By my calculations Wolfe was just mates with Joe Offa in some capacity because he’s known nothing since Joe left. The timing of Smokin Joe’s disappearance suggests he’s either David Fafita’s mum or Peter Gentle, and if you assume his name is his birth year 1910 is Wayne himself.
 
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This is completely off topic but I’ve always wondered, without giving anything away do any of you, Wolfie Wolfie, and Smokin' Joe Smokin' Joe or anyone else around here connected to the club, have any hunches who each other is?

By my calculations Wolfe was just mates with Joe Offa in some capacity because he’s known nothing since Joe left. The timing of Smokin Joe’s disappearance suggests he’s either David Fafita’s mum or Peter Gentle, and if you assume his name is his birth year 1910 is Wayne himself.

I'll be honest, i know one player pretty much thats left here now. Used to know quite a few of the blokes from the u 20's team that made the final in 2014 and a few others that came through at that time. I dont really have a clue who anyone is at all on here.

Wait, Wolfie is an insider?
Ha ha, i wouldnt say i am. I just get to know a few things ( less and less these days, well, about whats happening in Brisbane anyway ). Some stuff i've picked up months before things break in the press and i've told a couple of people on here. I personally think its peoples personal choice if they believe anything or not anyway from strangers. I was once told by a player still on our book that he was pretty much moving to the Storm only for him to stay at Brisbane. Things can change then if you blab it out on a message board you look like a numpty through no fault of your own.

Oh, and i have a Maccas card.
 
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I'll be honest, i know one player pretty much thats left here now. Used to know quite a few of the blokes from the u 20's team that made the final in 2014 and a few others that came through at that time. I dont really have a clue who anyone is at all on here.


Ha ha, i wouldnt say i am. I just get to know a few things ( less and less these days, well, about whats happening in Brisbane anyway ). Some stuff i've picked up months before things break in the press and i've told a couple of people on here. I personally think its peoples personal choice if they believe anything or not anyway from strangers. I was once told by a player still on our book that he was pretty much moving to the Storm only for him to stay at Brisbane. Things can change then if you blab it out on a message board you look like a numpty through no fault of your own.

Oh, and i have a Maccas card.
Tom Opecic I assume.

I’ve only ever had one scoop and that was from Tedesco himself (met him drunk) that he and Alex Woods were sure things to the Bulldogs. I blabbed about it on the internet every chance I could get (not sure if I did it on BHQ or not) and everyone basically told me to shut up, then when Teddy did a last minute switch to Roosters any credibility I craved as an insider turned to everyone calling me full of shit lol
 
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This is completely off topic but I’ve always wondered, without giving anything away do any of you, Wolfie Wolfie, and Smokin' Joe Smokin' Joe or anyone else around here connected to the club, have any hunches who each other is?

By my calculations Wolfe was just mates with Joe Offa in some capacity because he’s known nothing since Joe left. The timing of Smokin Joe’s disappearance suggests he’s either David Fafita’s mum or Peter Gentle, and if you assume his name is his birth year 1910 is Wayne himself.
I reckon smokin Joe is Kevvie
 

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I'll be honest, i know one player pretty much thats left here now. Used to know quite a few of the blokes from the u 20's team that made the final in 2014 and a few others that came through at that time. I dont really have a clue who anyone is at all on here.


Ha ha, i wouldnt say i am. I just get to know a few things ( less and less these days, well, about whats happening in Brisbane anyway ). Some stuff i've picked up months before things break in the press and i've told a couple of people on here. I personally think its peoples personal choice if they believe anything or not anyway from strangers. I was once told by a player still on our book that he was pretty much moving to the Storm only for him to stay at Brisbane. Things can change then if you blab it out on a message board you look like a numpty through no fault of your own.

Oh, and i have a Maccas card.
Confirmed, Wolfie is Milford.
 

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Tom Opecic I assume.

I’ve only ever had one scoop and that was from Tedesco himself (met him drunk) that he and Alex Woods were sure things to the Bulldogs. I blabbed about it on the internet every chance I could get (not sure if I did it on BHQ or not) and everyone basically told me to shut up, then when Teddy did a last minute switch to Roosters any credibility I craved as an insider turned to everyone calling me full of shit lol

Dont know who he is 😂

Without naming names, i know players at the Rabbitohs, Tigers, Eels, Warriors and the Titans.
 

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