VOTE Do you regret Bennett's (second) departure?

[Mightybroncs2k17]

I voted yes as i would have liked to see him see out his last year. I think it would have been great for wayne to have one more year overseeing the young guys like carigan, hass, fifita and flegeler. I'm not suggesting our results would or would not have been better last year with him in charge. I do beleive his management of youth would have been better.
Also think Seibold's arrival would have been better received had it have been as originally planned and not with all drama that unfolded.

 

[Huge]

I think there was some negative sentiment from dragons fans that he pushed Steve price’s barrow to become the head coach when he left knowing full well that he was out of his depth and would subsequently fail for the sake of his own ego.

Mmm, not sure how you could possibly know what his thinking was nor his intentions. If you're like most of us, you don't know what your own are half the time!! Really, claiming to know what another persons thinking, hard to believe but boy oh boy, the police would love you to work as an independent contractor. Never know, you might get your own tv show with that skillset.

 

[Huge]

Mmm, not sure how you could possibly know what his thinking was nor his intentions. If you're like most of us, you don't know what your own are half the time!! Really, claiming to know what another persons thinking, hard to believe but boy oh boy, the police would love you to work as an independent contractor. Never know, you might get your own tv show with that skillset.

I apologize if you're not claiming to know but just saying dragons fans knew. In that case, please accept my apology here.

 

[Jason Simmons]

Everyone that votes no are in denial

Open a bit wider so you can fit Wayne’s plums in too...

Wayne had to go, full stop. But, Seibold most definitely shouldn’t have come.

The club needed a huge clean out of staff, players and attitudes and we picked the softest, most clueless wanker who has ever been employed at our club and gave him the biggest contract ever.

The entire board should resign in disgrace for presiding over this.

 

[Huge]

I voted no because I hold him partly responsible for the clusterfuck roster. Plus he is 70 years old. Also his press conferences are always smug and he does not endear himself to the press.
As for Seibold being the right choice I am still undecided. If he had the players to buy in to what he is about then the results may be different. Reckon we stick with him till seasons end and then reassess. Not sure Walters is the answer either. In hindsight maybe they should have gone with JD whose coaching record is better than Seibolds albeit without being a head coach.

For the life of me I cannot think what age has got to do with it. You do know that's 1960s thinking. I thought the young were progressive or is it anyone older than your Dad's fucked?

 

[abashii]

Bennett left Broncos with some bad contracts: Bird, Boyd, Macca.

Paul White negotiates the contracts. The lengthy contract for Boyd? That's Paul White. Giving out player options like it's an episode of Oprah? Paul White again.

 

[Huge]

I voted no because I hold him partly responsible for the clusterfuck roster. Plus he is 70 years old. Also his press conferences are always smug and he does not endear himself to the press.
As for Seibold being the right choice I am still undecided. If he had the players to buy in to what he is about then the results may be different. Reckon we stick with him till seasons end and then reassess. Not sure Walters is the answer either. In hindsight maybe they should have gone with JD whose coaching record is better than Seibolds albeit without being a head coach.

Besides he was 68 at the time which is exactly twice as old as you.

 

[Rico]

I apologize if you're not claiming to know but just saying dragons fans knew. In that case, please accept my apology here.

cheers. Its a dragons fans view and have heard it from several of them. I know your a facts man, but when you look at similar circumstances around Ivan the terrible and Rick Stone there may be something there. Not saying there is but an interesting pattern nonetheless.

 

[Skyblues87]

Besides he was 68 at the time which is exactly twice as old as you.

Let me clarify something here. I mean no disrespect to WB legacy or his age. The point I was trying to make is that when you are planning for a long term future you do not appoint a 70yo. Even the great Alex Ferguson realised his time was up. WB is hardly pulling up trees at Souths and we copped a few floggings under his leadership too. Not endorsing Seibold either.
Also your detective work regarding my age is way off. I am closer to WB age wise.
Skyblues87 represents a historic acheivement for a sporting team I have followed since my childhood. Get it right and I will by you a beer.

 

[Santa]

Yes I regret it! As a fan all I really want is for us to win. We won more with Bennett...

Even when we were just making the 8, you still had that feeling we had the potential to pull something off. We were at least always competitive (except against the storm). Now we're battling for the spoon...

Dumb decision, the guy deserved to go out on his terms.

 

[NSW stables]

Really, claiming to know what another persons thinking,

Oh damn i get to correct Mr. Huge! I believe it is "what another person IS thinking". Sorry Mr. Huge, i couldnt help myself.

 

[Huge]

Yep, and the only reason he was white-anted was because people like Morris wanted to justify his position by making a power play. They can say what they want but it would appear they were jealous and felt threatened that their subordinate (Bennett) held such influence. I had little issue with Bennett holding such sway with the playing group.

At the very least he should have been able to coach his final year, and i would have been happy with him coaching 2020 before moving to a coaching director's role.

He knew the importance of the balance of having enough senior, battle-hardened players to balance out youth. He did it with players like Jeremy Smith at the Dragons and Knights and did the same with Blair with us. Those calling for the older players to be shuffled on and replaced with Shiny Young Talent are now seeing exactly what happens with a team with great talent but little experience or fortitude.

Of the candidates, Seibold was my pick, slightly ahead of Maguire, which just shows how I too was suckered by media reports and hype, but then I wasn't being paid bulk money by a wealthy organisation to do due diligence.

Totally right Morkel, I too wanted WB to finish his contract as I stated qt the time but was criticised for not understanding why it was 'untenable'. I seem to get that a lot around here especially from the 20 year olds. What's untenable is where we are now. I didn't see a fall from grace as deep as this one is but I found it hard to imagine the team going much better with an untested coach.

I didn't have a preference for coach as it wasn't my job and I didn't know enough about any of the candidates but Walters would have been my first phone call. I would have been calling the Walker brothers too and organised a piss up on North Straddy after a cruise and a couple hundred joints, both meat and herbal. I'd had my mate with me too because despite the 1000 concussions he's had he's still one of the best and knows his football.

We'd knock out a plan or at least my guests would and if no one wanted to be head coach they would at least advise me who to look at. I'd still follow WBs blueprint though. Two tough as teak frontrowers as the cornerstones and first picked players before all others. A mature general next and a lieutenant, (5/8 and half) the rest of the pack and backups and then fullback, centres and finally wingers.

Naturally I'd be looking for a decent fullback at all times and of course I'd be constrained by cash and my squad. My plan wouldn't change though. Last year I wanted to play Tagatese as a starter from rd 1 because he'd go forward, absorb the blows and be gone after 15/20. More importantly he'd lead the very young and show them that you have to at least match the opposition's forwards or better yet, get on top BEFORE you can go on and win a match. BennettBall 101. BellamyBall too.

 

[lynx000]

I have personally renamed BHQ as the Temple of Doom.

 

[Huge]

Let me clarify something here. I mean no disrespect to WB legacy or his age. The point I was trying to make is that when you are planning for a long term future you do not appoint a 70yo. Even the great Alex Ferguson realised his time was up. WB is hardly pulling up trees at Souths and we copped a few floggings under his leadership too. Not endorsing Seibold either.
Also your detective work regarding my age is way off. I am closer to WB age wise.
Skyblues87 represents a historic acheivement for a sporting team I have followed since my childhood. Get it right and I will by you a beer.

The clues tell me it's likely Coventry. Mind you I considered the NY Giants but , nah best guess is Coventry and Highfield Road makes you all warm and fuzzy inside

 

[Huge]

Oh damn i get to correct Mr. Huge! I believe it is "what another person IS thinking". Sorry Mr. Huge, i couldnt help myself.

Yes, forgot the apostrophe.

 

[Wolfie]

If Bennett wanted to see out his contract then he shouldn't have acted like a child when he was told he wasn't being given the contract extension he wanted.

How did he act like a child? He put forward a succession plan,the board didn't want him or his plan so he started looking elsewhere. I'd admit towards the very end Wayne was a bit petulant, but i dont know what people expected he would do, go quietly? I think the board were pretty disrespecful to the bloke.

 

[lynx000]

How did he act like a child? He put forward a succession plan,the board didn't want him or his plan so he started looking elsewhere. I'd admit towards the very end Wayne was a bit petulant, but i dont know what people expected he would do, go quietly? I think the board were pretty disrespecful to the bloke.

Was the club off Demetriou I wonder? It will prove to be the ultimate sliding doors moment if WB's succession plan flies at Souths and JD has a stellar start to his coaching career. It will be another massive misjudgment that we can chalk up to our administration.

 

[Ffs...]

I can only go off of bits and pieces I hear. My concern with the Broncos is WB stopped holding the younger guys to account, and we fell behind the pack.

AS has brought that in. He may well have performed poorly in player engagement, I don't know, I don't see fully how he operates. My fear is that if this is a player driven revolt against greater accountability and professionalism, what are we left with if we sack him? Who do you bring in? Someone who does what the players want? They wouldn't survive a MaGuire that's for sure....

We need to forget about winning games for now and set a standard on and off the field. Drop players who refuse to meet it and give someone a go who buys in. We hurt sure, but we build a culture for long term success.