Four Nations Finals Discussion..

[Big Pete]

[icon_lol1. yeah because I clearly didn't make the point in the last thread that the end of year matches are much more competitive.

Keep digging AP.

 

[Anonymous person]

[icon_lol1. yeah because I clearly didn't make the point in the last thread that the end of year matches are much more competitive.

Keep digging AP.

oh im digging am i? can i borrow your shovel then? ill have to lower a rope down so you can tie it on, youre in far too deep for me to be able to reach it.

 

[Big Pete]

What is this another competition?

Are you going to out-do me like Australia did to New Zealand on the weekend...oh wait!

 

[Porthoz]

FMD AP, why don't you just offer to fellate Billy and get it over with. Better yet, wank him repeatedly!
At least your hands will be too busy to type... :roll:

 

[Anonymous person]

FMD AP, why don't you just offer to fellate Billy and get it over with. Better yet, wank him repeatedly!
At least your hands will be too busy to type... :roll:

why dont you at least understand whats going on before replying?

im not saying Slater had a great game or how great he is - im simply pointing out that blaming him for a refereeing error is stupid, as is blaming him for Tuquiri not diving on a ball.

you two are jokes.

 

[Big Pete]

the second try was Lotes fault again. watch the video - he was closest by FAR to the ball, and for some reason ran to where the ball would be in a few seconds instead of where the ball actually was, allowing nightingale to pass across in front of him? you mean that try? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqrJtpLWoKQ at about 3:45

Yep that was definitely more Tuqiri's fault although considering Slater is the fullback he should've sprinted to get the ball, he was going at like 70%.

oh so now you know what was on slaters mind at that time do you? psychic AND stupid, wow. and he wouldve gotten australia on the front foot? he was half a bloody metre out from our try line! youre never on the front foot catching a bomb half a metre from your tryline with defenders charging in on you.

Well it obviously wasn't at the job at hand, how he dropped such an easy catch is anybody's guess.

And pretty simple really AP, a fullback catches the ball and runs it forward giving his side an incy bit of momentum. He doesn't drop it and have his side defend a set of six.

i do love how you just pass his try off as 'anyone wouldve done it', yet you carry on like ONLY slater wouldve waited for the ball to bounce out from that kick, and that ONLY slater has EVER dropped a bomb lol. and again, it doesnt matter if it should never have gone back to Archer - archer incorrectly ruled a knock-on. you dont blame the player for a referee making a 100% incorrect decision.

No I didn't carry on like that, it's just a negative that goes against him.

A performance like this though is typical of Slater, when his number is called in the big games Slater has a habit of coming up short.

But hey, it's alright for fullbacks to drop bombs regardless, isn't his fault he dropped the ball is it?

 

[Porthoz]

FMD AP, why don't you just offer to fellate Billy and get it over with. Better yet, wank him repeatedly!
At least your hands will be too busy to type... :roll:

why dont you at least understand whats going on before replying?

im not saying Slater had a great game or how great he is - im simply pointing out that blaming him for a refereeing error is stupid, as is blaming him for Tuquiri not diving on a ball.

you two are jokes.

You're the one quoting my posts when replying to Big Pete. [eusa_doh
Looks like you're getting a bit flustered defending your damsel as if your life depended on it... :roll:

 

[Big Pete]

I'd be flustered too when Lance Hohaia ends up matching him.

...for the second time in a series final

 

[Jeba]

and a knock on that he did - which actually wasnt a knock on since it hit his hands, then bounced off his knees, then hit the ground, meaning its play-on

You're not being fair dinkum here are you??

 

[Anonymous person]

You're the one quoting my posts when replying to Big Pete. [eusa_doh
Looks like you're getting a bit flustered defending your damsel as if your life depended on it... :roll:

huh? arent i allowed to reply to 2 people in one post? eusa_think

and a knock on that he did - which actually wasnt a knock on since it hit his hands, then bounced off his knees, then hit the ground, meaning its play-on

You're not being fair dinkum here are you??

fair dinkum. unless the ball hits your hands, goes forward, then hits the ground without hitting any other part of you, its not a knock-on.

or are you going to try and tell us that the rules are wrong?

Well it obviously wasn't at the job at hand, how he dropped such an easy catch is anybody's guess.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

players drop the ball every now and then, especially when its trying to catch a bomb. have you NEVER got something wrong that you would usually get right 9 times out of 10? youve never made a simple mistake? contrary to popular internet forum belief, catching a bomb isnt as easy as putting your hands out.

 

[Jeba]

[quote="Anonymous person":2j4gfc3g]and a knock on that he did - which actually wasnt a knock on since it hit his hands, then bounced off his knees, then hit the ground, meaning its play-on

You're not being fair dinkum here are you??

fair dinkum. unless the ball hits your hands, goes forward, then hits the ground without hitting any other part of you, its not a knock-on.

or are you going to try and tell us that the rules are wrong?
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Oh no. Oh dear.

 

[Big Pete]

Seems like Slater does it less than 9/10 in these big games though AP.

Like I said, when all eyes are on Slater to do his job, he's far from the most reliable back.

And yeah I expect a player of his style to come up with a few errors...but not with simple things like taking a bomb that he's perfectly positioned for - not at that level.

 

[Jeba]

http://www.australianrugbyleague.com.au ... 202010.pdf[/url]

 

[Anonymous person]

[quote="Anonymous person":1lnzvczf]and a knock on that he did - which actually wasnt a knock on since it hit his hands, then bounced off his knees, then hit the ground, meaning its play-on

You're not being fair dinkum here are you??

fair dinkum. unless the ball hits your hands, goes forward, then hits the ground without hitting any other part of you, its not a knock-on.

or are you going to try and tell us that the rules are wrong?

The rules are right, but you're wrong, you've been wrong a lot of times before. And around 5 or 6 times in this thread. So just for once in your life get the **** over yourself and admit you made a **** mistake or wrong call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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did you really just post that without realising it proves you wrong? seriously?

"If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player
knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it
touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an
opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed."

the ball touching the players knee constitutes a kick. deliberate kick? hell no. kick? definitely. its happened before and has had the correct 'play on' call made, and itll happen again. there have even been tries awarded where the player who dropped it just 'grubbered' it through accidentally from their thigh/knee and have then picked it up and scored.

unless the last thing the ball hits before hitting another player/the ground/goal post etc is your hand, its NOT a knock-on. this is fact.

and if you hadve dug a bit deeper, you would find the definition of kick in that very same rule book defined as:

"means imparting motion to the ball with any part of the
leg (except the heel) from knee to toe inclusive"

it DOES NOT say deliberate in there, does it? slaters knees hit the ball after he dropped it, therefore it is classed under the rulebook as a kick. therefore it is CANNOT be a knock-on.

also please, enlighten me on where ive been wrong 5 or 6 times in this thread. im dying to hear them.

 

[Browny]

Do we really need to go down this path.....again.

I didnt see the game just the Youtube highlights so here is my 2 cents worth.

Tuquri and Slater were both slow getting to the kick for the Nightingale try.

The pass was miles forward, the english cricket team bowlers would struggle to get the ball to swing that far.

Where was the cover apart from Cronk? Effen lazy

 

[Jeba]

Wasn't a deliberate kick with the knee. It's a knock on every day of the week.

 

[Big Pete]

Who cares if it's a knock on or not? Are we judging whether Archer had a good game or not?

Fact is Slater dropped an easy bomb any decent fullback would've taken at a pivotal moment, if Slater does his job Archer doesn't have to do his. (and thank goodness for that)

Slater once again failed to deliver when the pressure was on and he (plus the likes of Tuqiri, Tonga, Kidley, Morris and Lockyer) let the team down.

 

[Jeba]

Well said BP.