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Tom

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Thought Cronullas first penalty could have very easily been called a dropped ball and another time one of them run behind their own player to get out of the in-goal. Both in the first half, only things I can remember. Certainly no conspiracy. Cronulla definitely the better team overall too.
 

Dexter

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The best team on the night won as far as I'm concerned.

As I have posted previously I thought the refs policing of the 10 was atrocious. It took the players about 5 mins to work it out. The Storm were advantaged as much as the Sharks though but it didn't allow the game to open up as much as it could have.

I do question the head knock rules though. The Sharks lay down every time they could and IMO if you get hit in the head and cannot get to your feet to play the ball then it should be assessed by a doctor. That's simple enough and will stop the silly buggers from milking.

The whole head knock thing is as much about cumulative knocks afaik and Chad lay down 3 times from head knocks but was assessed on field by someone I would assume not qualified to do it. Lewis was prone and didn't move but the magic sponge worked a treat. Like some other things in the game until the NRL get serious and put measures in place it will continue.

Another anomaly in the game IMO came from the match winning try. Let me say I am not disputing the correctness of the call but to me it is hard to see why they haven't tweaked the interpretation of that type of try.

He wasn't over the line therefore not fighting to ground it. IMO a player should not get 2 chances to place the ball over the line. In Fifitas try he is on his back and tries to put it down then rolls over and has another go because his arm doesn't contact the groundl but it was hardly one motion.

The test for me is if he had passed that to another player from the exact position it would have been penalised as passed off the ground and tackle complete.
 

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My concern with the head knock rule, is it's basically a free interchange.
maybe what they need is an independent doctor/trainer to be able to make a determination on the extent of the head knock, and if that doctor/trainer determines that they player was sent off for a concussion test as a way of getting a free interchange then that team loses an interchange anyway.
 

Super Freak

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If they aren't doing that already, I don't see why they still aren't.

Surely the NRL are smart enough to realize that teams would exploit the rule to get a couple of free interchanges.
 

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For those who were watching on TV did Lewis deserve the Clive Churchill medal? He did have a good game but I thought Maloney and Fifita would've been up there and would've been good choices.
 

Tom

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For those who were watching on TV did Lewis deserve the Clive Churchill medal? He did have a good game but I thought Maloney and Fifita would've been up there and would've been good choices.
I thought Maloney was better but was happy with Lewis. Fifita was probably the best on ground but could have scored a hat trick of 100m tries to win the game and the NRL still wouldn't have given it to him. He has to front up for a punishment now the season is over I thought?
 

winslow_wong

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If Maloney set up a try or score one himself he would have won Clive Churchill for sure. I would have made some sweet cash too.
 

Kaz

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For those who were watching on TV did Lewis deserve the Clive Churchill medal? He did have a good game but I thought Maloney and Fifita would've been up there and would've been good choices.

IMO: Fifita should have gotten it, but because of all the shit about his friend Kieran Loveridge, he didn't get the Clive Churchill medal.
 

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Fifita was head and shoulders the best player on the field.

Everytime he touched the ball, you just felt as if something was about to happen. When the Sharks needed somebody to step up, it was Fifita. It was an easy choice and one of the greatest grand final performances from a prop forward.

While some of you maybe jumping at shadows in regards to the officiating, I'm glad that a few Channel 10 journos spoke up about how awful the presentation and commentary was.

When you base your entire presentation on how great it will be if the Sharks win...

...it seems very suss.

I'm not sure how the Fox presentation compares, hopefully it was a lot more neutral because the 9 presentation was very uncomfortable to sit through.

It started last week when Melbourne beat Canberra in a game they 'didn't deserve' to win and the entire build up seemed to be about the Sharks. Again, I find myself so frustrated with the competition and the coverage maybe on top of the billing.
 
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Organix

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Fifita was head and shoulders the best player on the field.

Everytime he touched the ball, you just felt as if something was about to happen. When the Sharks needed somebody to step up, it was Fifita. It was an easy choice and one of the greatest grand final performances from a prop forward.

While some of you maybe jumping at shadows in regards to the officiating, I'm glad that a few Channel 10 journos spoke up about how awful the presentation and commentary was.

When you base your entire presentation on how great it will be if the Sharks win...

...it seems very suss.

I'm not sure how the Fox presentation compares, hopefully it was a lot more neutral because the 9 presentation was very uncomfortable to sit through.

It started last week when Melbourne beat Canberra in a game they 'didn't deserve' to win and the entire build up seemed to be about the Sharks. Again, I find myself so frustrated with the competition and the coverage maybe on top of the billing.
Yeah, maybe this is what a lot of people were feeling. I got suspect when Locky and Wally called the Sharks to win. Practically the whole commentary team called the Sharks to win before kickoff. It was the same during the whole season when certain comments were made regarding teams being vastly inferior or superior. I personally didn't see it that way at all a lot of the time. I was joking around before about all the dodgy being done. I don't really care who won the comp after Brisbane got knocked out. But the way the media commentary seems to dictate so much about the game really grinds my gears.
 
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Kimlo

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Fifita was head and shoulders the best player on the field.

Everytime he touched the ball, you just felt as if something was about to happen. When the Sharks needed somebody to step up, it was Fifita. It was an easy choice and one of the greatest grand final performances from a prop forward.

While some of you maybe jumping at shadows in regards to the officiating, I'm glad that a few Channel 10 journos spoke up about how awful the presentation and commentary was.

When you base your entire presentation on how great it will be if the Sharks win...

...it seems very suss.

I'm not sure how the Fox presentation compares, hopefully it was a lot more neutral because the 9 presentation was very uncomfortable to sit through.

It started last week when Melbourne beat Canberra in a game they 'didn't deserve' to win and the entire build up seemed to be about the Sharks. Again, I find myself so frustrated with the competition and the coverage maybe on top of the billing.
It wasn't broadcast on Fox, it was a 9 exclusive.
 

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However, it seems as though the game was also done live by Fox for the delayed replay. Warren Smith was the main caller with Alexander and Roach about the place. The commentary seemed pretty neutral and the reffing was pretty unobtrusive. In fact, aside from the ten metres the refs were pretty lenient both ways. I didn't think Melbourne were too bad nor the Sharks when it came to the rucks. The ref even overlooked a blatant sideways play the ball in order to keep things flowing.

Fifita was good but no better than Prior(Pryor?) who was enormous.
 

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Stil seems the result was encouraged just as it was last year. You don't have to have a full blown conscious conspiracy to bias an outcome. You set interpretations of rules that favour one side, send a message about how good it would be for the game for the Sharks to win down the ranks, pick a lead ref who they haven't lost under in 2 years. If Broncos had a ref with that record ref a grand final it would not be taken in stride, Gus Gould would be complaining for half the game. People correctly or incorrectly and often unconsciously can be very good at reading between the lines to get the result the bosses and media want. I thought referees were way too loose on both sides. A short ten favours the Sharks big men in the long run. Also thought Sharks got away with murder in the ruck. At least when the Storm manipulate the ruck they are artful, the Sharks just lied there, crowded the ruck and put their hand all over the ball. Would love to see an independent review of officiating across the board. If NRL were smart would do it and sort their issues our before a massive class action or corruption enquiry given the exposure in sports betting.
 
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