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I certainly don't think Milford is a long term option on the money he is on now, he would have to be on significantly less to be a Bronco for the long term I would assume.

I also don't think Croft is a long term option, simply a short stop-gap option until Dearden is ready to take the role. Maybe he could develop into a good hooker, but he certainly doesn't have what it takes to be a halfback.
 

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I certainly don't think Milford is a long term option on the money he is on now, he would have to be on significantly less to be a Bronco for the long term I would assume.

I also don't think Croft is a long term option, simply a short stop-gap option until Dearden is ready to take the role. Maybe he could develop into a good hooker, but he certainly doesn't have what it takes to be a halfback.
Realistically if Milford wants to take a pay cut he may as well go somewhere else and do it. He could go to Melbourne and earn half as much and probably look decent in a side where the other players will do most of the work for him.

We've gone out of our way to change Halves partners to suit Milford time and time again, maybe it's time we do the same thing to accommodate Croft?
 

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Realistically if Milford wants to take a pay cut he may as well go somewhere else and do it. He could go to Melbourne and earn half as much and probably look decent in a side where the other players will do most of the work for him.

We've gone out of our way to change Halves partners to suit Milford time and time again, maybe it's time we do the same thing to accommodate Croft?
The reason we have been trying to accomodate Milford is because of how much he is on and how much potential he has. Croft doesn't have any of that going for him and doesn't deserve to have any sort of mortgage on a position on the team given what he has done in first grade to this point.
 
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I actually just don’t think he’s good enough.
It was definitely a mistake that has set us back a long time. I’m worried about what happens next with Milford. He’s not worth anywhere near a million. 600k max, but if there’s better options we need to cut ties with him.
 

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I doubt there is much truth to this. Sounds more like speculation.

You watch though, if it is true we'll do the stupid thing and dump Croft for having two bad games instead of Milford for having two bad seasons.
Of course they would dump Croft first, he hasn't done anymore than Milford and is far less on an investment.
 

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It’s not just the quantity though. It’s when and where he misses them that often cost us points. I’d like I see the stats on how many points are being scored through our left edge defense through Boyd and Milford.
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Mmmmm, okay. Perhaps I exaggerated it a little but I was sure I'd read he missed 7 just recently. That could have been a two game total. Nevertheless it has been the norm for Millionford to miss lot's of tackles and he's been an arm grabber since he arrived in Brisbane.
Good example against the Rorters when everyone defending around Milford moved up but Milford hung back leaving open a gigantic gap for the Rorters second-rower to stroll through. Milford made a last ditch arm grab and the Rorters forward easily dragged Milford over with him. In stats that wouldn't go down as a missed tackle from Milford.

Frankly speaking, I think his defence is the least concerning thing about his game at present and that speaks volumes. I guess it's hard for him to dominate when the forwards are getting rolled as they were against Parramatta and Rorters but even in that case, given the money he is on, he should be better. He was rubbish against Manly as well when the forwards held their own for most of the game.
 

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The reason we have been trying to accomodate Milford is because of how much he is on and how much potential he has. Croft doesn't have any of that going for him and doesn't deserve to have any sort of mortgage on a position on the team given what he has done in first grade to this point.
At what age would you expect that potential to come to fruition? He is well past the limit for the potential argument imo. I will still give him this year to see if he can get that running game back though. As we all know the old coach is partly to blame, but it’s time to stop riding that excuse too, he needs to step up or piss off.
 

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The reason we have been trying to accomodate Milford is because of how much he is on and how much potential he has. Croft doesn't have any of that going for him and doesn't deserve to have any sort of mortgage on a position on the team given what he has done in first grade to this point.
If you're 25 (next month he's 26) and people still need to talk about your 'potential' then I think it might be time to admit that ship has sailed.
 

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If you're 25 (next month he's 26) and people still need to talk about your 'potential' then I think it might be time to admit that ship has sailed.
I'm not arguing that we should be picking him on potential, I'm just saying that Croft shouldn't be given a pass just because he hasn't been here long. Croft has had plenty of opportunities in first grade to show he is up to it at halfback and has never shown that he is.

I would personally drop Croft before Milford. Milford still has the best kicking game at the club.
 

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I'm not arguing that we should be picking him on potential, I'm just saying that Croft shouldn't be given a pass just because he hasn't been here long. Croft has had plenty of opportunities in first grade to show he is up to it at halfback and has never shown that he is.

I would personally drop Croft before Milford. Milford still has the best kicking game at the club.
See even that, I reckon if Isaako was given more kicking responsibility, he could be better (obviously totally no contest at present, Milf hands down).

But what does Milf do that makes him worth even half a million dollars?

Goal kick? No.
Lead? No.
Do the 1%ers? No.
Run it? Not anymore.
Kick deadly bombs? No, rarely at best.
Gun kicking game? No, it is good though, not great.
Make something from nothing? VERY rarely.
Defense? Average.
Goor trainer? No.
Good communicator? No.
Flawed? Absolutely yes!
Go missing in games? Yes, a lot.
Errors? Drops it still pretty frequently.
The go to man? No, he rarely puts his hand up.
Drop goals? No pressure, great. Under pressure? Not so good.
Calm under pressure? No way.
Can win a premiership? Not anymore, five years ago, yes.

So what is the value in keeping him if he doesn't want to take a 50% pay cut? (And who would want to take a 50% pay cut?) Someone will still throw $800k sadly on the hope he comes good.
 
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I'm not arguing that we should be picking him on potential, I'm just saying that Croft shouldn't be given a pass just because he hasn't been here long. Croft has had plenty of opportunities in first grade to show he is up to it at halfback and has never shown that he is.

I would personally drop Croft before Milford. Milford still has the best kicking game at the club.
Yeah you're right, his team only came first last year while he was playing Halfback for them. Must try harder.
 
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It was definitely a mistake that has set us back a long time. I’m worried about what happens next with Milford. He’s not worth anywhere near a million. 600k max, but if there’s better options we need to cut ties with him.
It’s possibly set us back 10 years in total. The five he’s been here and then development of another, not to mention who we’ve lost along the way because of his cap share.
 

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It’s possibly set us back 10 years in total. The five he’s been here and then development of another, not to mention who we’ve lost along the way because of his cap share.
He's been nothing but a failed experiment, in nearly all facets. Milf just doesn't have the fortitude required to be a serious footballer. Oh but he enjoys the glamor lifestyle, don't you worry. That McDonalds card thing was a great idea in Milfs eyes.
 

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If we’d have won the GF, he would have been the messiah given his performance that year. Maybe he’s just had rubbish coaching too?

He needs to step up but but saying he’s failed is a bit far. Too expensive? Yes. Terrible signing? No. Your alternative would have been Hunt and Taylor - hows that working out...
 
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