Hodges may retire at the end of this year

[Porthoz]

Yeah, but you were probably the type of person who said Lockyer shouldn't have been at 5/8 either. We need to give Milford half a chance before we start replacing him with a bloke that hasn't even cracked the NRL.

I'm not bagging Milford at all. I would have him paired with Taylor in a heart beat as well, but I can't really put Hunt at FB...

I just don't think Hunt and Milford are an ideal halves pairing. They're both brilliant, but more off the cuff players than organisers, and we sorely lack one of those imo.

FYI, Locky has always been a cerebral player, able to control games from FB as well as 5/8 later. His move to 5/8 was a necessary one, because we didn't really have anyone capable in the halves to replace... Ben Ikin!

P.S. Come on... Kahu has definitely proven he's not a hack, that is just silly.

 

[Nashy]

I'm not bagging Milford at all. I would have him paired with Taylor in a heart beat as well, but I can't really put Hunt at FB...

I just don't think Hunt and Milford are an ideal halves pairing. They're both brilliant, but more off the cuff players than organisers, and we sorely lack one of those imo.

FYI, Locky has always been a cerebral player, able to control games from FB as well as 5/8 later. His move to 5/8 was a necessary one, because we didn't really have anyone capable in the halves to replace... Ben Ikin!

P.S. Come on... Kahu has definitely proven he's not a hack, that is just silly.

Kahu hasn't been able to prove a thing really. To suggest he has is pre-mature. He can catch a ball under pressure and can find the line when needed. A quality shared by the majority of players in his positions.

You're basically wanting to drop a brand new halves combination due to them not gelling well together yet, when their fullback has been different every few weeks. They need time.

It's the age old debate though. They look good in NYC or Qcup, but plenty of these "superstars" turn into mediocre rubbish. The last player I think that got the BHQ treatment was Corey Norman, you know, the next Darren Lockyer? Lol.

With Hunt not being an organiser, I can't cop that, but it's not like his tenure in the Broncos up until this year has called for that, so again, give him time.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Indeed.

Indeed....we don't want another Peter Wallace.

 

[Big Pete]

The last player I think that got the BHQ treatment was Corey Norman, you know, the next Darren Lockyer? Lol.

From who? The media?

I get where you're coming from. There is a grass is greener mentality and that's existed as long as I've been apart of this website but Norman is a terrible example because if you listened to people who actually went and watched him play they'd tell you he'd turn invisible when the going got tough.

Exactly like he did in first grade.

And I remember Porthoz making those comments.

I actually agree with the gist you're saying but I've harped on this enough times - people have to find another example because Norman doesn't wash.

Nor does generalising really.

 

[Splinter]

Kahu hasn't been able to prove a thing really. To suggest he has is pre-mature. He can catch a ball under pressure and can find the line when needed. A quality shared by the majority of players in his positions.

You're basically wanting to drop a brand new halves combination due to them not gelling well together yet, when their fullback has been different every few weeks. They need time.

It's the age old debate though. They look good in NYC or Qcup, but plenty of these "superstars" turn into mediocre rubbish. The last player I think that got the BHQ treatment was Corey Norman, you know, the next Darren Lockyer? Lol.

With Hunt not being an organiser, I can't cop that, but it's not like his tenure in the Broncos up until this year has called for that, so again, give him time.

I am not advocating changing the halves for the sake of it. I have stated I believe Taylor is two years away in reality.
i am also not writing off Hunt and Milford, but while they are great players in their own right I have not seen either of them control a game completely and certainly not kicking wise and at some stage one of them has to get this right for us to move forward with them as a pairing. And as is my prerogative if this does not happen then one of them will need to be shifted but you are right they need to be given time together with a stable fullback
PS I could never see the hype in Norman

 

[heartly87]

I must be a psychic, somehow I new the thread that relates to a legend maybe retiring would lead to a milford to fullback, boyd to wing and insert fad young half to 5/8 or 7:rock:. I honestly think if anything this just frees up some cash to insure we secure our future in hunt and milf and we will likely see a pickup or two in the forwards and maybe another back. The argument I will make is it is up to Taylor in regards to what his future holds, is he patient, will he sit and learn his trade in qcup, improving and allowing his body to mature and his game, or does he jump the boat for a chance in the tops to possibly fail. I personally think he should be patient and play his butt of until he displaces our half's. Also just a thought he is big enough to play in the centre, maybe he could replace hodge:ciao:

 

[Nashy]

From who? The media?

I get where you're coming from. There is a grass is greener mentality and that's existed as long as I've been apart of this website but Norman is a terrible example because if you listened to people who actually went and watched him play they'd tell you he'd turn invisible when the going got tough.

Exactly like he did in first grade.

And I remember Porthoz making those comments.

I actually agree with the gist you're saying but I've harped on this enough times - people have to find another example because Norman doesn't wash.

Nor does generalising really.

Don't believe it for a second. Most of the regulars on this site were taking tickets for who would be the next to polish him.

Am I generalising? Absolutely, because time and time and time again BHQ gets on these young players and they turn out to be hopeless.

 

[Splinter]

So you're saying Manly should have seen Foran and DCE leaving in advance and should have dropped one of them to prepare for the future?

There is a good chance Milf/Hunt are our halves for AT LEAST 5 more years,however since we might lose one before then... Maybe we should drop Hunt to QCup and give Taylor a go in his natural position and drop Milf to the bench so Jayden can have a shot as well... Just incase Hunt and Milf decide to leave later on, because **** consistency we gotta try out any prospect we see in any position regardless of who is already there.

Your just trying to put words in my mouth but yes they should have seen at least one of them going and most likely both as they were splitting a wage and competing against other clubs trying to pick one off. The only chance they had was to look to the future or put all their eggs in one basket. They didn't plan for the future and all the eggs on Foran failed.
Blind Freddy could see that coming
Should they have given someone else a chance, certainly not but they should have been grooming a youngster for when it happened

 

[Splinter]

Don't believe it for a second. Most of the regulars on this site were taking tickets for who would be the next to polish him.

Am I generalising? Absolutely, because time and time and time again BHQ gets on these young players and they turn out to be hopeless.

I think Big Pete could back up what my thoughts were on Norman

 

[Big Pete]

I think Big Pete could back up what my thoughts were on Norman

Unfortunately you joined a little later so I can't point to anything but I have no reason to believe you made up your opinion or how you formed said opinion.

Plus, Norman isn't the type of player you usually talk up.

You've always been substance over style.

Don't believe it for a second. Most of the regulars on this site were taking tickets for who would be the next to polish him.

Am I generalising? Absolutely, because time and time and time again BHQ gets on these young players and they turn out to be hopeless.

And what about the times we're right hey?

Not every junior that has come through has been an absolute turd. In fact two of them combined on the weekend to win us the game.

Like a lot of us were when we said that Griffin should have gone with Ben Hunt in the halves OVER Norman.

It's a terrible example and if you don't believe me just go back, hit that time machine button they call search and put it all the way back to 2011 when people were making predictions for 2012.

Many regulars had Hunt > Norman.

This has gone way off topic at this point, we're supposed to be talking about one of the most talented centres to ever pull on a Broncos jersey.

But correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't he at one point, a junior?!

:laugh: Couldn't resist. It'll be a sad day when Hodgo retires but I'm interested to see how he handles the season before I get too upset. Yes, the market place isn't looking too good but Justin has been showing signs of sometime that he's struggling in the centres and in the big games, you can't afford to have those sorts of weaknesses.

 

[Nashy]

From who? The media?

I get where you're coming from. There is a grass is greener mentality and that's existed as long as I've been apart of this website but Norman is a terrible example because if you listened to people who actually went and watched him play they'd tell you he'd turn invisible when the going got tough.

Exactly like he did in first grade.

And I remember Porthoz making those comments.

I actually agree with the gist you're saying but I've harped on this enough times - people have to find another example because Norman doesn't wash.

Nor does generalising really.

And what about the times we're right hey?

Not every junior that has come through has been an absolute turd. In fact two of them combined on the weekend to win us the game.

Like a lot of us were when we said that Griffin should have gone with Ben Hunt in the halves OVER Norman.

It's a terrible example and if you don't believe me just go back, hit that time machine button they call search and put it all the way back to 2011 when people were making predictions for 2012.

Many regulars had Hunt > Norman.

This has gone way off topic at this point, we're supposed to be talking about one of the most talented centres to ever pull on a Broncos jersey.

But correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't he at one point, a junior?!

:laugh: Couldn't resist. It'll be a sad day when Hodgo retires but I'm interested to see how he handles the season before I get too upset. Yes, the market place isn't looking too good but Justin has been showing signs of sometime that he's struggling in the centres and in the big games, you can't afford to have those sorts of weaknesses.

It's unlike you to resort to being a smart ass, which is telling.

Oates was never talked up to the levels of the likes of Norman and Hunt, and Hodges was a first grader prior to BroncosHQ existing.

And I know there were people comparing the two, that doesn't in anyway excuse the absolute jizz fest this place was over Norman.

There have been plenty of juniors over the years who were the next best thing.

However, when it comes to player who have made it, people like yourself are the only ones who can pick a decent player. The rest. Crap.

But yes, you are right, we are off topic.

Hodges is a legend, but I won't be sad to see him vacate Hus position to someone with a younger and less beat up body.

 

[Ari Gold]

What about this guys? Taylor could be the first ever play making prop forward. Acknowledge meeeeeee

Not if Adam Blair beats him to it!

 

[Big Pete]

It's unlike you to resort to being a smart ass, which is telling.

Never mix cough medicine with red bull.

I'm offending all comers today.

 

[Sproj]

It will be nice to have a young agile centre but Hodgo will be missed more than people think.

 

[lynx000]

Locky has on occasion made horrible defensive clangers, it just came with the territory.
I'm not comparing Taylor to Locky of course, but more often than not, a halve will be vulnerable in defense. Taylor has certainly improved out of sight in that aspect, and his playmaking more than makes up for his defensive weaknesses imo.

Hunt has also been missing a lot of tackles, has made a few great saves and has let tries through too. Doesn't mean he isn't FG material.

Yes, remember what the Jackson 5 said `One bad tackle don't spoil the whole bunch girl' or something like that. Is too much being made of one missed tackle perhaps???

 

[Socnorb]

Kahu hasn't been able to prove a thing really. To suggest he has is pre-mature. He can catch a ball under pressure and can find the line when needed. A quality shared by the majority of players in his positions.

You're basically wanting to drop a brand new halves combination due to them not gelling well together yet, when their fullback has been different every few weeks. They need time.

It's the age old debate though. They look good in NYC or Qcup, but plenty of these "superstars" turn into mediocre rubbish. The last player I think that got the BHQ treatment was Corey Norman, you know, the next Darren Lockyer? Lol.

With Hunt not being an organiser, I can't cop that, but it's not like his tenure in the Broncos up until this year has called for that, so again, give him time.

I hadn't seen much from Kahu till I saw him lay on those 2 tries for maranta earlier in the year. That was a touch of class. I actually thought it was hodges at first.

 

[Cult]

Yes, remember what the Jackson 5 said `One bad tackle don't spoil the whole bunch girl' or something like that. Is too much being made of one missed tackle perhaps???

No, there are a lot more missed tackles. I'm just pointing out the most embarrassing one.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Being one of the founding members I can confirm broncoshq existence was actually before Hodges came onto the scene in first grade. Ah the fond memories of laughing my ass off on the forum at the long list of excuses from broncohater as to why his Bulldogs got beaten in the 1998 Grand Final.