Hunt has put the cue in the rack

[Big Del]

Not finding the man with the pass was his problem last night .
Not his level of effort .

His passing game has been less effective for some time .

Kicks too long and over dead ball . Hunt and Friend 1 all . More excuseable on a wet track .

 

[holdzy]

Not finding the man with the pass was his problem last night .
Not his level of effort .

His passing game has been less effective for some time .

Kicks too long and over dead ball . Hunt and Friend 1 all . More excuseable on a wet track .

What does effort matter when the execution is poor?

I'm sure Maranta was trying, too.

All the great communication and consistent execution seems to go out the window when Hunt plays - I don't think he is the most popular bloke at the club.

 

[Porthoz]

If you read what I wrote, you'll actually see that I'm agreeing with you. Hunt can't produce unless the Broncos are on the front-foot which is pretty typical of a half, but it's what separates him from the best halves in the competition.

However, the Broncos don't have of a halfback of that calibre on their roster, so if Hunt can regain his best form, he's still the most dangerous half on the roster.

It's a big if, but he deserves the rest of the Origin period to prove himself.

OK, so we kinda agree on the first part. I'd say it's what separates him from the better halves in the comp. Slight nuance maybe, but significant enough imo.

On the rest, we definitely do not agree. After 1.5 years, I'm over the "if he can regain his best form" part, so no... he has lost the right to be automatically chosen ahead of the rest.

Besides, based on the best form, I'd say he's third best at the club at most, with Milford and Benji so far ahead of him, it's not funny. Even at his best, he couldn't use his right side, his kicking was average at best, and his decision making was still inconsistent, and downright mind-blowing at times.
Kodi has shown he's more capable on at least 2 of those items, besides being a more capable short kicker as well.
Yes, I do realise we may give in defensively (not as much as people say), long kicking would be a problem, and we wouldn't gain much in terms of game management. The gains easily outweigh the losses though.

Then, there is Benji Marshall, who is showing signs of returning to his better self. With his experience and ability, he could easily be our dominant half, not because he's a halfback, but because he has better tools than Hunt for the purpose.
That way, he would be leaving Milford to do what he does best while we find a halfback whom can truly compliment Anthony (hello Ash).

I hate the fact that my arguments always make it look like I dislike the bloke, or think he's a crap half.
He's not a halfback in the way I regard a halfback's responsibility, but I truly think Hunt can be a really good half playing to his strengths and what he sees in front of him.
He has to be second fiddle to a dominant controlling playmaker, whom can think ahead and execute accordingly, not take on that responsibility himself.

 

[Super Freak]

It's like everyone in here are suffering from short term memory loss and can't remember a thing about Hunt at his best.

 

[Porthoz]

It's like everyone in here are suffering from short term memory loss and can't remember a thing about Hunt at his best.

Or someone has rose coloured glasses tainting those memories...

 

[Big Pete]

Marshall has had a couple of good touches since his return, but it's premature to say he's a better halfback, let alone come up with the assessment you have.

Otherwise it's simply a case of wait and see for me. I think there's plenty of fair criticisms to be made and they've been raised but there's been positives as well and I'm keen to see if he can build on those.

 

[Super Freak]

Or someone has rose coloured glasses tainting those memories...

I don't go by memory. I go by what the footage shows.

Like this claim that Hunt couldn't use the right side even at his best. It's rubbish and the footage backs that up. I recommend checking it out. You'll be surprised.

Consistency was always his issue.

 

[Unbreakable]

Every discussion with SF ends the same way, him requesting you to go watch 50 hours straight of archive footage.

 

[Alec]

We won the battle of field position last night. Should have been Hunt's game to dominate. Unfortunately the whole team seemed happy enough to play the grinding game, and no second phase play and shit kicking game just didn't give us many chances to score.

 

[Porthoz]

Marshall has had a couple of good touches since his return, but it's premature to say he's a better halfback, let alone come up with the assessment you have.

Otherwise it's simply a case of wait and see for me. I think there's plenty of fair criticisms to be made and they've been raised but there's been positives as well and I'm keen to see if he can build on those.

I didn't say Marshall is a halfback, and neither has the form to prove anything at the moment, but provided he continues to deliver as he has in the last few games, and based on talent and ability, Marshall has the better tools without a doubt:
Better kicking, better passing, better decision making, running is par because Benji has lost some pace, mediocre management from both of them, and Hunt has the better defense.
Surely that's not in contention? :confusing:

 

[Unbreakable]

I didn't say Marshall is a halfback, and neither has the form to prove anything at the moment, but provided he continues to deliver as he has in the last few games, and based on talent and ability, Marshall has the better tools without a doubt:
Better kicking, better passing, better decision making, running is par because Benji has lost some pace, mediocre management from both of them, and Hunt has the better defense.
Surely that's not in contention? :confusing:

I wouldn't say running is on par, Hunt is defs the better runner of the footy these days, a LOT more Linebreaks and Tries over the last few years, but I'd agree with the other assessments.

 

[Porthoz]

I don't go by memory. I go by what the footage shows.

Like this claim that Hunt couldn't use the right side even at his best. It's rubbish and the footage backs that up. I recommend checking it out. You'll be surprised.

Consistency was always his issue.

Highlights say absolutely nothing to me. I may not remember every detail of every game, but Hunt has NEVER been capable of using his right side properly.
He is by far the most responsible for Gillett's enormous decrease in attacking stats, who were up there even when Peter Wallace was next to him, and showed signs of returning with Kodi. Hodges and Roberts quality mask how poor our right side has been with him there.

There are points where people can argue for Hunt, this is definitely not one of them!

 

[Big Pete]

I didn't say Marshall is a halfback, and neither has the form to prove anything at the moment, but provided he continues to deliver as he has in the last few games, and based on talent and ability, Marshall has the better tools without a doubt

Well a better half, but if Marshall was to be picked it would be at halfback so that's my concern.

Better kicking, better passing, better decision making, running is par because Benji has lost some pace, mediocre management from both of them, and Hunt has the better defense.
Surely that's not in contention? :confusing:

I agree with some of it, not with all of it. Benji's biggest issue for a long time is his inability to play square and crab across field, putting himself and his team under pressure. Now he's shown some good signs out there for Brisbane that he's looked to fix those issues, but he's had the luxury of playing the support role with Hunt being the dominant half.

 

[Super Freak]

Highlights say absolutely nothing to me. I may not remember every detail of every game, but Hunt has NEVER been capable of using his right side properly.
He is by far the most responsible for Gillett's enormous decrease in attacking stats, who were up there even when Peter Wallace was next to him, and showed signs of returning with Kodi. Hodges and Roberts quality mask how poor our right side has been with him there.

There are points where people can argue for Hunt, this is definitely not one of them!

I'm not talking about highlights reels. The full games.

As I said before, utter rubbish and I can guarantee the footage will show that. Some of you really need to start doing that more often because the memory is shoddy at best.

 

[Porthoz]

Well a better half, but if Marshall was to be picked it would be at halfback so that's my concern.

I understand that, but for me the concern is the same with Hunt playing there. I don't think either will steer the team around and manage the game as a halfback should do.

I agree with some of it, not with all of it. Benji's biggest issue for a long time is his inability to play square and crab across field, putting himself and his team under pressure. Now he's shown some good signs out there for Brisbane that he's looked to fix those issues, but he's had the luxury of playing the support role with Hunt being the dominant half.

That's fair enough, and as @Unbreakable mentioned, Benji's running game probably has suffered a fair bit with the years.
Neither is a dominant half, which means both would excel in the supporting role to one.
But in terms of tools at their disposal, and what we need at the Broncos, Benji's talent trumps Hunt's especially when it comes to kicking and passing, besides he also has experience and hopefully a cooler head as a result.

 

[Porthoz]

I'm not talking about highlights reels. The full games.

As I said before, utter rubbish and I can guarantee the footage will show that. Some of you really need to start doing that more often because the memory is shoddy at best.

You can guarantee all you want, but I won't go through the full footage of 50 odd games, besides the subjectivity of one's point of view makes a huge difference in how a game is perceived. Here's a fact though:

Gillett before Hunt: 0.38 tries per game
Gillett after Hunt: 0.12 tries per game

The same goes for line breaks, meters and runs from our best backrower.

 

[Mr Fourex]

It's like everyone in here are suffering from short term memory loss and can't remember a thing about Hunt at his best.

Or someone has rose coloured glasses tainting those memories...

....or it's been that long since Hunt has produced that form, that no-one can remember it.

 

[Unbreakable]

You can guarantee all you want, but I won't go through the full footage of 50 odd games, besides the subjectivity of one's point of view makes a huge difference in how a game is perceived. Here's a fact though:

Gillett before Hunt: 0.38 tries per game
Gillett after Hunt: 0.12 tries per game

The same goes for line breaks, meters and runs from our best backrower.

Yes, but what you fail to mention is that Gillett also averages 0.5 tries per game with Hunt at Halfback on games that fall on the eve of a Winter solstice, if you'd watched every Broncos game since 1988, you'd know that.