International Cricket 2012/13

[Coxy]

It's not like he was against it in the first place, but he was speaking out of turn, as only you, AP and CF are allowed to have opinions... He should have read the rules

Oh, I'm sorry, did you read my mind about my opinion on the rotation policy? I don't see any post about it from me here.

It's just typical of m1c to gloat when he's "right" about something. It's little wonder he's one of the less popular posters here, along with AP, CF and myself :P

 

[m1c]

Notwithstanding that I don't rate Starc as a long form bowler - I thought the selectors got it wrong. If they're genuine about following the science behind rotation they either rest him from the last 2 tests, or play him here and leave him out of Sydney.

The research shows the correlation between a workload spike and injury are very week in the immediate games, but quite strong around 20 days later.

 

[vertigo]

Glassman Watson is injured again, time to rotate him out for a few years I think.

Only country with a rotation policy yet all these injuries... what the **** is going on?

 

[m1c]

Perhaps the science is updated and they just don't want to publish yet. Watson had a massive spike last test yet played here. Breakdown ensued. Given they left out Starc should consistency dictate they ban Watto from bowling?

 

[Coxy]

Agree vertigo. I don't like the rotation policy because a) it's giving baggy green caps to players who haven't really earned it (again, not denying how well Bird has bowled, he didn't deserve a start yet), and b) it's not having any noticeable impact on the injury rate.

What Australia should be doing, IMO, is determine their core group of 13-15 players that are their Test squad. They should have limited involvement in the short forms of the game. They should certainly get a rest from the short form squads for a couple of weeks after the Tests. If we lose a 5-match ODI series against Sri Lanka, WhoTF cares?

 

[broncos4life]

Agree vertigo. I don't like the rotation policy because a) it's giving baggy green caps to players who haven't really earned it (again, not denying how well Bird has bowled, he didn't deserve a start yet), and b) it's not having any noticeable impact on the injury rate.

What Australia should be doing, IMO, is determine their core group of 13-15 players that are their Test squad. They should have limited involvement in the short forms of the game. They should certainly get a rest from the short form squads for a couple of weeks after the Tests. If we lose a 5-match ODI series against Sri Lanka, WhoTF cares?

How can you bowl as well as bird has and not deserve a start???

 

[Coxy]

How can you bowl as well as bird has and not deserve a start???

Because he hasn't earned it. Hasn't done the hard yards. What is it, his 2nd first class season?
I have the same criticism of the free ride Pat Cummins and James Pattinson have had.

The baggy green is prestigious. You don't just hand one out to the latest flash in the pan.

The biggest issue we have now is that we've got Johnson and Bird who have performed well enough this test to make it impossible to drop them. We have Siddle who IMO was the best bowler in Hobart, and who already has had a rest this year, and then you have Starc who was outstanding in the 2nd innings at Hobart needing to come back into the team.

There's nobody you can drop...errr...rotate out.

So you have a guy like Starc fresh off a 5-for who either doesn't get a look in, or you "drop" the likely MOTM Johnson, the excellent debut of Bird, or the proven performer in Siddle... the rotation policy has put the selectors over a barrel.

 

[Kaz]

Where are all those critics of rotation - would a weary Starc have been as effective as Johnson or Bird?

It is only Sri Lanka, but the selectors deserve a pat on the back. They have been vindicated.

The selectors could have picked the Australian Z side & it still would be the same result.

Most of us here would have been able to get them out.

 

[OXY-351]

Most of us here would have been able to get them out.

Yeah. even John Howard could have bowled them out

 

[Coxy]

Yeah. even John Howard could have bowled them out

John Howard would've broken their fingers like Johnson did.

 

[OXY-351]

John Howard would've broken their fingers like Johnson did.

True, Howard does have some good bounces in his repertoire

 

[Browny]

When Howard lands them on the pitch he's lethal lol

 

[m1c]

Whether or not you are a fan of rotation, our increased fast bowling depth courtesy of Johnson seizing an opportunity and Bird gaining some exposure is surely a big positive.

Johnson will go much better under the current set up - the two Micks and Invers will give him all the cuddling he requires. Furthermore, Gideon best summed up Bird in one of his articles; I paraphrase: it's premature to liken him to McGrath, but we've certainly seen more than enough to suggest he's no Williams, Bracken, George or Hastings.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Tough decision of who to drop for the SCG test. They might bring Starc in for Watson unless the pitch looks like a raging turner.

 

[Coxy]

Tough decision of who to drop for the SCG test. They might bring Starc in for Watson unless the pitch looks like a raging turner.

Shortens the batting depth though.

I'd just bring in Starc for Bird. Bird will get more chances. He's had a taste now.

Sounds like Maxwell has the nod to replace Watson.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Shortens the batting depth though.

I'd just bring in Starc for Bird. Bird will get more chances. He's had a taste now.

Sounds like Maxwell has the nod to replace Watson.

According to the press conference after the match it will either be Johnson or Maxwell at 7 depending on the pitch.

 

[Coxy]

Wade at 6? *cringe*

Tony Greig passed away this morning :( RIP Greigy.

 

[Broncoman]

RIP Tony Grieg. Yeah it's sad news Coxy, I heard it on ABC radio just then.