Jarryd Hayne NFL Career

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I think he will make it. NFL is a stupid man's sport. They have a guy to kick, they have a guy to tackle, they have a guy to catch kicks etc. If all he has to do is catch punts then run as far down field as he can, he will excel. The guy is a freakish talent, and while it will probably upset many on here, and i hate to say it, hes the best player in our game atm. he has the size and fend of inglis, the passing game of thurston, the speed of milford and the vision of cronk. Athletes like that can pick up the nuances of another sport in no time.
 
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That is amazing and I'm a little shocked tbh but good on him for pursuing a dream and good luck to him. He is quite possibly the most gifted player I've ever seen and i will miss watching him play.
 
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To all those saying he doesnt have the time to learn all the aspects of NFL to make it big, if he plays punt return, he literally will be on the field to catch the ball, return it, then come off and have a break. Theres not a great deal of intellect or knowledge needed for that. NFL is a sport where you only need to be good at 1 thing and you can make it big. You dont need to know the game inside out to be good at it
 
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$20 says its a stunt to get around playing in the four nations tournament.

He'll be back for Round 1, 2015
 
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So your telling me his body size, catching ability and speed doesn't fit the role of a h back non traditional tight end? LOL. You couldn't be more wrong.

The H back still has to lead block and play pass protection, so no. I don't think he fits that role at all which is why I suggested he'd potnetially line up in the slot.

imo, KR/PR, Slot receiver or as part of a committee RB system.

Some are calling for him to play CB but that's laughable.
 
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My $0.02 on Jarryd Hayne:I've been fortunate enough to coach some players who will make the NFL in the not too distant future. They have freakish athleticism (bench 200kg+, squat even more and run a 4.6s 40yd at ~120kg and know all the ins and outs of the game.
Hayne absolutely is a freakish athlete, but his abilities certainly do not stand out compared to what is being produced at a college level here - and I'm not even talking about an SEC powerhouse or Florida State or Oregon; I'm talking about a mid major in a smaller conference - and on top of this, his football IQ is close to zero: he's never ran a route, pass blocked or audibles coverage if he were to play DB. No team is going to sign him as a special teams guy because guys can already do that job and better. He's a waste of a practice squad spot because the amount coaching to get him up to speed isn't worth it.
Kudos to him to have the guts to make his call, and I don't for a second doubt his abilities as an athlete, but the chances of him making a roster and staying on it for very long are in my opinion slim to none.

When you think about it, it's not hard to imagine that in the scheme of things Hayne isn't that special. In our small population he is a freak, can do things that very few can do. In the big pool over there though, where the population is, what, 100 times ours?, there are 100 or 1000 people that can do what Hayne does or far exceed it. It is a huge risk.

I think he will make it. NFL is a stupid man's sport. They have a guy to kick, they have a guy to tackle, they have a guy to catch kicks etc. If all he has to do is catch punts then run as far down field as he can, he will excel. The guy is a freakish talent, and while it will probably upset many on here, and i hate to say it, hes the best player in our game atm. he has the size and fend of inglis, the passing game of thurston, the speed of milford and the vision of cronk. Athletes like that can pick up the nuances of another sport in no time.

For mine, that is the problem. Hayne is so amazing because he can do just about all Rugby League things well. He is able to combine speed, strength etc, with the ability to step, quickly decelerate, accelerate, etc. He may not be the fastest, he may not be the strongest, he may not have the best fend, or step, or dummy, or acceleration, but he can combine them better than just about every player for the purposes of Rugby League. Is he going to seem so freakish if the scope of his role is much more narrow? I hope so, I love him as a player, but it'll be interesting to see.
 
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Timing is odd. The NFL season is in full swing now so it's not like there are tryouts going on or a combine around the corner. Yes, he is a pure athlete but then again so the thousands in the league and wanting to get into the league. I can see him as a running back or a punt returner. He wont play on the other side of the ball. He also needs to take in account that every year there are literally hundreds of great talents coming out of college who have been playing the game as long as he has been playing league.

At days end it ***** Para and NSW. I won't lose a wink about either.
 
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To all those saying he doesnt have the time to learn all the aspects of NFL to make it big, if he plays punt return, he literally will be on the field to catch the ball, return it, then come off and have a break. Theres not a great deal of intellect or knowledge needed for that. NFL is a sport where you only need to be good at 1 thing and you can make it big. You dont need to know the game inside out to be good at it

He'd still struggle. If he returns it like an NRL kick he'll just end up fumbling half the time.
 
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I think he will make it. NFL is a stupid man's sport. They have a guy to kick, they have a guy to tackle, they have a guy to catch kicks etc. If all he has to do is catch punts then run as far down field as he can, he will excel. The guy is a freakish talent, and while it will probably upset many on here, and i hate to say it, hes the best player in our game atm. he has the size and fend of inglis, the passing game of thurston, the speed of milford and the vision of cronk. Athletes like that can pick up the nuances of another sport in no time.

It's not even close to that simple.

Walk-ons at my school (a walk-on is basically a guy who trials and gets on the team and is a tackling bag for the rest of the season) get a playbook that is 100 pages long. This isn't even a big school like FSU or Alabama, let alone the NFL.

Athletes of his ability are a dime a dozen over here... like I said I'm at a mid major school and as far as athletic ability goes, Hayne would be right at the top of the bell curve, at an average mid major team. There's 12,000 D1 college football players right now, 300 of those will get drafted, maybe 200 will make a roster and play more than 2 years in the league. The odds are stacked against him and the Australian media doesn't realize how average he is as an athlete when compared to guys over here.
 
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To all those saying he doesnt have the time to learn all the aspects of NFL to make it big, if he plays punt return, he literally will be on the field to catch the ball, return it, then come off and have a break. Theres not a great deal of intellect or knowledge needed for that. NFL is a sport where you only need to be good at 1 thing and you can make it big. You dont need to know the game inside out to be good at it

The thing is he's not that good at that when compared to actual footballers (NFL) who have been doing it their whole lives.
 
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So your telling me his body size, catching ability and speed doesn't fit the role of a h back non traditional tight end? LOL. You couldn't be more wrong.

He's small compared to a TE. He has 0 blocking ability. Has never run a live route in his life. He is used to every defender being in front of him.

All of what I've said though that he'll struggle - if there is an NRL player who would make it in the NFL, it's Jarryd Hayne.
 
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If he fails he won't be back in league, he's far too egotistical to come back with his tail between his legs in six months. He'll wind up in Union methinks.
 
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To all those saying he doesnt have the time to learn all the aspects of NFL to make it big, if he plays punt return, he literally will be on the field to catch the ball, return it, then come off and have a break. Theres not a great deal of intellect or knowledge needed for that. NFL is a sport where you only need to be good at 1 thing and you can make it big. You dont need to know the game inside out to be good at it
You should probably stick to league mate... :wink:
 
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This has the same smell as the Izzy and Hunt to AFL. The league media go nuts because Folau can Catch a ball in the in the in goal to score. "wow he'd make a great AFL player, they catch in that game too". it was always going to be a laughable failure. to think that you can match the muscle memory of a guy who's been playing the sport since he was 4. Worse with Hunt, as he kept some decent young player out of the game so that the AFL could prove a point. I wish him all the best but I can't see how a 27 you can learn the game to the level that is required to match it with other equally gifted athletes. Maybe this is just a way out of Parra.
 
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I think he will make it. NFL is a stupid man's sport. They have a guy to kick, they have a guy to tackle, they have a guy to catch kicks etc. If all he has to do is catch punts then run as far down field as he can, he will excel. The guy is a freakish talent, and while it will probably upset many on here, and i hate to say it, hes the best player in our game atm. he has the size and fend of inglis, the passing game of thurston, the speed of milford and the vision of cronk. Athletes like that can pick up the nuances of another sport in no time.
If he's after a challenge, do you think that's really what he would be aiming for?
 
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He's small compared to a TE. He has 0 blocking ability. Has never run a live route in his life. He is used to every defender being in front of him.

All of what I've said though that he'll struggle - if there is an NRL player who would make it in the NFL, it's Jarryd Hayne.

I think it'll be interesting to see what happens when his strength and conditioning goals change. An extra 10-20lb of weight, more explosive training and he could be anything. At 240-245 6'2 he is the exact same size as Hernandez was for the Pats.

I think his agility w/ pass blocking could be effective as an athletic TE / H-back. As far as him learning to block goes, if he is going to learn any position bar punt receiving he is going to have to learn systems, routes etc. He's an avid NFL fan, so I don't think he is completely brainless as to the basics. Doing it IRL is obviously a different ball game though.

I think Tera is right and it's most likely we'll see him start as a PR, maybe moving into a RB position. He could be good at that. Do you guys reckon he could take the shots? I don't know if he could be better at any of those positions than some of the kids in college who won't make the NFL doe.
 
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