NRL Player Movements and Rumours 2015

[broncos4life]

Sezer and Austin sounds better on paper than Milford and Hunt? Maybe if we're talking about stupid haircuts.

Well neither hunt nor Milford look like a metrosexual
Viking... So if the competition is to look like a metrosexual Viking they have already won

 

[broncos4life]

I did say appears better balanced but noted not individually.BHunt and Milf should be better as both better players but if you were designing a halves pairing you would pick an organiser with a good boot with a running partner.

It was all about balance, you misinterpreted what I meant.

So Ben Hunt isn't an organiser yet he controlled the game far better than your latest signing that you claim is the organiser in your fantasy better balanced combo... Seems legit.

 

[Manbush]

It's not a bargain and using 3 shit halves that got massive, massive offers from shit coaches that were desperate does not change anything

250k would be a fair price for sezer

As Broncos fans you guys do have a warped sense of contract values comes with being a one team city with a lot of TPAs available. $250k for an established halfback is ridiculously low. Foran and Maloney will be getting about $1mil each and Sezers not a quarter of the player they are. Salary cap next year is $7mil from memory so average value will be $280k, a starting halfback is worth more than the average of a 25man squad.

 

[Manbush]

Well neither hunt nor Milford look like a metrosexual
Viking... So if the competition is to look like a metrosexual Viking they have already won

It's fucking ridiculous isn't it:laugh:

 

[Ari Gold]

Sezer has achieved what exactly at the Titans? And led them to how many finals series?

Titans have a better pack than the Raiders too. So I don't see how you can make an argument that Sezer will do well behind a good pack.

The only thing Sezer does remarkably well is kick goals, and to have conversion attempts you have to score tries. The latter is something that neither Sezer nor the Raiders are particularly good at.

Tedesco was a quality signing. Sezer is just desperation.

 

[Cult]

As Broncos fans you guys do have a warped sense of contract values comes with being a one team city with a lot of TPAs available. $250k for an established halfback is ridiculously low. Foran and Maloney will be getting about $1mil each and Sezers not a quarter of the player they are. Salary cap next year is $7mil from memory so average value will be $280k, a starting halfback is worth more than the average of a 25man squad.

The Raiders are a one team territory. Also Canberra isn't even in NSW. All you're missing is the TPA's and that's mostly because of poor management.

 

[Manbush]

The Raiders are a one team territory. Also Canberra isn't even in NSW. All you're missing is the TPA's and that's mostly because of poor management.

Canberra population doesn't come close to Brisbanes then you have Brisbane is a league town where as Canberras more Union. TPAs are a lot harder in a place where a large percentage are public service (without rich benefactors) add the fact that no free to air games means no exposure. Raiders haven't been managed well (neither IMO have the Broncos recently but they are getting back on track) but surely even one eyed supporters can see the handicaps some teams face with TPAs.

 

[Big Pete]

Me too ........one half decent game last week and he's NSW next 5/8. :rolleyes:

So typical of Canberra players to be quickly over rated like this.
It's the latest RL "expert's" kitschy thing to do.

I really enjoyed your post the other day - summed up about 10 years of being involved with the online Rugby League community and the usual bull you read.

'Oh if only they picked this toiler from the 13th place side, it would have made all the difference' :laugh:

Steering this back on topic, Raiders are also after James Tamou from the North Queensland Cowboys.

Maybe I'm just being difficult but even his signing doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence. In fact, it just reminds me of when Sticky signed Tupou from the Roosters in 2009. Anthony was once a handy player, but clearly had seen better days and wasn't the type of forward who was going to set an example. James certainly has the talent, but he hasn't really produced any consistent form since 2012 and if anything just seems like a handy bench forward.

I guess it'd better than nothing but surely there's somebody more professional on the open market?

 

[Morkel]

Austin reminds me of poor old Jarrod Sammut. Extremely energetic, willing to jump in whenever and wherever anything is on, but ultimately an opportunistic player that can look brilliant against very poor defence but has absolutely zero against structured defence.

Sezer on the other hand I see as a more skilled John Sutton - kind of too big to be a traditional half but not aggressive enough or having the motor required to play in the back row. On the plus side has a pretty good temperament and seems just as effective against the better teams than the poorer ones. But he's no halfback, no way. He might be able to lead the team around but he doesn't he's more likely to assist a line break through brute strength and popping an offload than clever footwork or the will-he-run-or-pass-it playmaking staple.

For mine, they're both sixes. Sezer being the bigger, hard-running lock/half of old, and Austin the flightly, call-the-ball-if-you-see-something second receiver. Austin needs a Hodkinson-type halfback (which is where I agree with the comparisons to Grub Reynolds), whereas Sezer could do with a DCE-type. Yeah, I think Sezer would have gone better had he stayed on the coast.

 

[Manbush]

Agree with you Pete on Tamou, the guy can be damaging but it's not a signing Id get excited about and it's one I do believe we'd be paying overs for. Id be more than happy to stick with what we have coming through or look to ESL for a prop maybe, it's been a good hunting ground for Ricky so far.

Sidenote: On Sezer, him signing has been leaked to the media and I'm putting money on it being by his slimey manager Ayoub to try and garner more interest and increase his value, that prick has screwed us over a lot in the past year.

On Sezers size he's only 2cm taller and 5kgs heavier than BHunt

 

[Broncoman]

Sezer has achieved what exactly at the Titans? And led them to how many finals series?

Titans have a better pack than the Raiders too. So I don't see how you can make an argument that Sezer will do well behind a good pack.

The only thing Sezer does remarkably well is kick goals, and to have conversion attempts you have to score tries. The latter is something that neither Sezer nor the Raiders are particularly good at.

Tedesco was a quality signing. Sezer is just desperation.

It's hard to put points on when your back line is average, full of flaws or not living up to anything. I don't think Trent Robinson would've got the Titans of last year scoring points, they are a pretty average side apart from a few players.

 

[Financeguy]

Austin couldn't nail down a halves spot in the juniors and would often play lock for Penrith in the 20s.

Are you sure about that Big Pete?

I remember Austin playing about 2 games at lock when Nathan Smith was called up to the Panthers NRL side, mainly because he was more robust that some of the other options and his skills were still useful from lock. In his last full year at the wolves he played pretty much every other game from 5/8th with an early game in the centres.

My nephew played for the Wolves so i saw a lot of them, he was there first choice 5/8th and had that position during their finals run and eventual GF loss. His call ups for the Panthers, if not the bench, were as a starting half.

 

[1910]

As Broncos fans you guys do have a warped sense of contract values comes with being a one team city with a lot of TPAs available. $250k for an established halfback is ridiculously low. Foran and Maloney will be getting about $1mil each and Sezers not a quarter of the player they are. Salary cap next year is $7mil from memory so average value will be $280k, a starting halfback is worth more than the average of a 25man squad.

Your ability to attract third party payments is only limited by what your manger or yourself are willing to source. Not geography.

Your manager can get non related club sponsors as far as the eye can see and they can be global or national not just Canberra related. Cap free!

 

[Manbush]

Your ability to attract third party payments is only limited by what your manger or yourself are willing to source. Not geography.

Your manager can get non related club sponsors as far as the eye can see and they can be global or national not just Canberra related. Cap free!

It comes down to exposure as well if you don't have rich benefactors, no FTA games limits it severely. If you were a sponsor would you pay for a player who is on FTA almost every week or a player who is lucky to be on tv 2 or 3 times a year.

Its not a go at the Broncos mate they play the cards they are dealt, the decks just stacked to favor certain clubs.

 

[Big Pete]

Are you sure about that Big Pete?

Yes, I'm talking about the juniors, not the reserves and what would happen around 2009-10 is that Austin would usually go into the backrow to make way for a Siejka, Farkas even a Moylan and couldn't nail the 5/8 role.

2011 he captained the side and primarily played 5/8 but would make way when there were late changes and suffered an injury part-way through the year. He returned and was promoted up the grades till he play first grade off the bench.

And I think you know the rest, spends a lot of time in first grade in a rubble of a team, injures his shoulder in R19, out for the season, doesn't really recover in 2013, ends up going to Wests where he's playing centre, backrow & hooker.

Compared to Milford who dominated from U/16s and was first choice half for the Magpies straight to the Raiders (except for the 3 games he played for the Raiders NYC side) I think it's a bit rich to even compare the two.

One is clearly the bigger talent than the other.

 

[Unbreakable]

Apparently the Warriors still have some decent coin under the cap for next year if they release Tomkins and don't re-sign Friend and a few others, I wonder if they'll make a play to get Maloney back over there, he's exactly what they need, elite goal kicker, good foil for Johnson and RTS's flaws in the play making area.

 

[Financeguy]

One is clearly the bigger talent than the other.

Never arguing that, just my exposure to Austin through the Wolves he was always considered the 5/8th, hence why i asked about his junior role as i never followed the Panthers under 20 squad.

Was never my intention to compare him to Milford.

 

[Big Pete]

Just re-enforcing the point I was making to begin with.