A few words from Mal, Papa and his parents would be able to smooth it over, and the feelings might have been exaggerated. The moral high ground is one of perspectives though, obviously Broncos fans will see it differently to Raiders fans but there is a decent push from the southern media to paint the Raiders as the hard done by party in this, it's not black and white and if it doesn't go to court I'd be very curious as to why not.
[Official] - Milford signs with Broncos
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Correct just as BHQ doesn't represent most Broncos fans, forums are made up of a small portion of hardcore fans.
broncos4life
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What amazes me is that we sign 2 players that aren't our own juniors and the media are calling for the nrl to investigate like its not allowed.
Every year we have our juniors poached and no one blinks an eye lid, in fact it's usually met with a 'good on ya for getting one back on those bronco arseholes' kind of attitude. The panthers and sharks buy half a bloody team and are lauded for their smart recruiting. We sign 2 fucking players and it's a national disgrace?!? Please...
Every year we have our juniors poached and no one blinks an eye lid, in fact it's usually met with a 'good on ya for getting one back on those bronco arseholes' kind of attitude. The panthers and sharks buy half a bloody team and are lauded for their smart recruiting. We sign 2 fucking players and it's a national disgrace?!? Please...
You've signed more than 2 this year, the thing about the 2 big ones though are the fact they were already under contract hence all the noise, add the talk earlier about DCE and Smith surely you can understand why people are getting angry about it in league circles, if they were off contract I doubt there'd be any dramas but from the outside it does appear like the Broncos are trying to entice players to break contracts, (true or not is irrelevant it's the perception ). Standing firm on not releasing Hoff isn't helping either.
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Barba was still contracted and was released as an arrangement was made by two professional clubs for a mutually beneficial outcome. Who was the other? Kennedy was released , Vidot was released, I'm not sure about Mills . Milford has been signed post contract. What I object to is that you suggest, or present as fact the Broncos are initiating these events rather than being in a cap position to take advantage of them.
can you accept the scenario that Ayoub came to the broncos and said AM's not happy in Canberra would you be interested if we can get a release via a contractual clause. Because these are the facts, and there are no other facts to the contrary. We understand the Raiders provincial attitude because it is one the we suffered under for years pre origin and beyond. You need to face facts Brisbane is now the RL capital of the world through their own competence and hard work.
It is much easier to play the victim card, but it is not a way forward.
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If Canberra had treated their players better - taught them some manners and showed them how to act like young men and responsible people instead of absolute arse holes and treating everybody including your club and members then then players would want to stay.
So stop whinging about us and the other clubs pinching your players - you kick most of your good ones out because you have no authority and discipline at your club
And no we have not chased really any players - i believe they have come on the market - we made an offer and they accepted - THAT'S BUSINESS
Every year juniors and others associated with the Broncos are lost to the talent pool we build up - that is life and yes we as members scratch our heads and ask why but that life in business these days
Over the years you could name some mighty impressive Australian teams from just the players we have lost - something you lot down there will never be able to do so stop the complaining and just let the kid come home - if you don't you will have many others wanting out as well - mark my words
So stop whinging about us and the other clubs pinching your players - you kick most of your good ones out because you have no authority and discipline at your club
And no we have not chased really any players - i believe they have come on the market - we made an offer and they accepted - THAT'S BUSINESS
Every year juniors and others associated with the Broncos are lost to the talent pool we build up - that is life and yes we as members scratch our heads and ask why but that life in business these days
Over the years you could name some mighty impressive Australian teams from just the players we have lost - something you lot down there will never be able to do so stop the complaining and just let the kid come home - if you don't you will have many others wanting out as well - mark my words
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Mate I said true or not, it's the perception. No-one knows who initiated the dealings so can't say it's fact that Ayoub went to Broncos or vice versa, only Ayoub and Gee know and they'd hardly admit doin shonky deals if any have in fact been done.
It's not the first year it's happened either, Hannant despite living on the Gold Coast, Izzy who was so homesick he later ran off to play union in NSW.
You may not like the perception or agree with it but its there in league circles.
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Penrith do have a lot of quality juniors coming through and I would imagine more than half their team are Penrith locals. I agree with everything else though.
Pretty much cause no-one knows the truth so when that's the case perception becomes very important
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How are we supposed to be standing firm on not releasing Hoffman. He has been on the other side of the world this whole time. The club hasn't been able to speak to him. Not to mention being played in your best position rather than your preferred position does not constitute compassionate grounds.
so are the broncos supposed to have enticed ainslie to move to Brisbane? It would have been immoral for barba to have not been playing for the broncos next year. Every other player was released without drama as they weren't wanted by their clubs and realised the best thing for all parties was for the player to be in Brisbane. What you guys are doing with milford is cutting off your nose to spite your face. The best situation for the raiders is to receive fair compensation. The best situation for milford is to be in Brisbane. The best situation for the broncos is to have milford next year. So just release him for compensation. All he will do for you next year is hurt your future recruitment, morale and your salary cap. Name one player you have had poached cause in fairly certain you just keep ripping up their contracts rather than honouring them.
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so are the broncos supposed to have enticed ainslie to move to Brisbane? It would have been immoral for barba to have not been playing for the broncos next year. Every other player was released without drama as they weren't wanted by their clubs and realised the best thing for all parties was for the player to be in Brisbane. What you guys are doing with milford is cutting off your nose to spite your face. The best situation for the raiders is to receive fair compensation. The best situation for milford is to be in Brisbane. The best situation for the broncos is to have milford next year. So just release him for compensation. All he will do for you next year is hurt your future recruitment, morale and your salary cap. Name one player you have had poached cause in fairly certain you just keep ripping up their contracts rather than honouring them.
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So players don't have a choice of clubs? They must go to the highest bidder and shop around or else we have done something wrong? Obviously we are holding Parker against his will cos he never shops around.
Hannant lives on the Gold Coast but travels to brisbane for work??? Outrageous we have obviously done something dodgy there. I mean I personally live in brisbane but work at the GC... Obviously my company is dodgy as ****
broncos4life
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When did I say they don't have juniors?
Lol.
lol.
ok now that it's out of my system.
canberra times are owned by Fairfax. Fairfax has no ownership and pretty much nothing to do with the raiders.
courier mail are owned by news limited. Brisbane broncos are owned by news limited. News limited have a direct financial interest in the success of the broncos of course they are going to use both businesses they own to help each other.
we are not talking about local biased media we are talking about a news paper is owned by the same entity as the club. I expect it to be as unbiased as the Canberra raiders or broncos website.
as for Milford, IMO he will be great for Canberra next year , great for Brisbane for two years but then there will be dramas.
broncos4life
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Yeah the CT aren't biased. If bushman isn't a hypocrite even he will tell you your bullshitting.
What dramas are you predicting?
We're not talking simply changing clubs mate, it's breaking current contracts that's the issue.
Mentioned Hannant and the Coast since the Titans never seem to be an option as both you and Hannat have shown the distance isn't an issue so why are the managers so negligent towards their clients by not negotiating between the Titans and Broncos for the best deal, it's always purely only Broncos which adds to the perception I've previously mentioned.
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I've already said both are biased filled with hack journos with agendas, I can easily admit that can you?
ps on a previous post of yours the CT has been critical of the Raiders as well
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