[Official] - Milford signs with Broncos

[papabear]

Google is a wonderful thing when your memory fails.
I mean, Canberra fans are up in arms about the Broncs signing a homesick player. It's something they'd never do.
Oh, hello Matt Orford. What a coincidence the Faders signing him on the very day he got a release from Bradford.
Predictably, it all ended horribly but that was to be expected really.

Hypocrites much?



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Lol, matt orford wasnt wanted anymore by bradford, but being broke as shit and on its way to administration it wanted some cash so it held it up to get some cash by way of a transfer fee from canberra.

But keep on dreaming.

If you want a comparison lets use hoffman.

Hoffman doesnt want to be in brisbane in 2014. Nothing heard from the manager.
Hoffman wants to play in his favoured position being fullback in 2014.
Hoffman was publicly dissed by a senior player for not being good enough to be the broncos fullback. This I loled, in hodges mind the standard of fullback play is higher at the broncos then at the dogs :P despite recent results being to the contrary.
Brisbane seem a bit uncommittal as to where they stand with hoffman long term.

Milford doesnt want to be in canberra in 2014 - although his manager has committed to him playing there.
Milford will play in his preferred position in canberra, who knows where he will play at brisbane with barba and hoffman being there.
Milford has not been dissed by his teammates for his play or for pissing on the club that has supported him since he was 12.
Canberra Raiders definately want/ed to keep milford long term.


Yet a lot of broncos fans, like good old thibault thinks were hypocrites for not releasing milford in 2014. Both teams are doing whats best for themselves. Just like the Jedi and Sith, the Sith might have a lot more power but in the end it cannabalizes itself.

 

[Financeguy]

Just like the Jedi and Sith, the Sith might have a lot more power but in the end it cannabalizes itself.

To be fair though, that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away...

 

[Morkel]

To be fair though, that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away...

So, like, around the time Canberra's setup was successful? No wonder the club is still trying to push forward with business plans from the late '80s.

 

[broncos4life]

Lol, matt orford wasnt wanted anymore by bradford, but being broke as shit and on its way to administration it wanted some cash so it held it up to get some cash by way of a transfer fee from canberra.

But keep on dreaming.

If you want a comparison lets use hoffman.

Hoffman doesnt want to be in brisbane in 2014. Nothing heard from the manager.
Hoffman wants to play in his favoured position being fullback in 2014.
Hoffman was publicly dissed by a senior player for not being good enough to be the broncos fullback. This I loled, in hodges mind the standard of fullback play is higher at the broncos then at the dogs :P despite recent results being to the contrary.
Brisbane seem a bit uncommittal as to where they stand with hoffman long term.

Milford doesnt want to be in canberra in 2014 - although his manager has committed to him playing there.
Milford will play in his preferred position in canberra, who knows where he will play at brisbane with barba and hoffman being there.
Milford has not been dissed by his teammates for his play or for pissing on the club that has supported him since he was 12.
Canberra Raiders definately want/ed to keep milford long term.


Yet a lot of broncos fans, like good old thibault thinks were hypocrites for not releasing milford in 2014. Both teams are doing whats best for themselves. Just like the Jedi and Sith, the Sith might have a lot more power but in the end it cannabalizes itself.

I'm not having a go here but you posts are really hard to read. Everyone of then just turn into a rant and at times I can't even understand your point as you contradict yourself. I'm just going to point out the most obvious incorrect statements/ assumptions.

Firstly, what do you mean by the standard of fullback play at the broncos vs bulldogs? Fact is Hoffman is not a great fullback, the fact that he couldn't keep his spot for NZ and hodges had to swap with him once we were in the oppositions half sums it up

Brisbane are non-committal about Hoffman because he is back from the WC yet and they are most likely working out a transfer fee with the dogs.

What is your point? Both Milford and Hoffman don't want to be at their respective clubs. One wants to leave so he can be closer to family and play for the team he has always supported, the wants to leave because he wants to play fullback despite all signs pointing to the fact he isn't very good at it.

So I ask again, what is your point???

 

[ivanhungryjak]

I'm not having a go here but you posts are really hard to read. Everyone of then just turn into a rant and at times I can't even understand your point as you contradict yourself. I'm just going to point out the most obvious incorrect statements/ assumptions.

Firstly, what do you mean by the standard of fullback play at the broncos vs bulldogs? Fact is Hoffman is not a great fullback, the fact that he couldn't keep his spot for NZ and hodges had to swap with him once we were in the oppositions half sums it up

Brisbane are non-committal about Hoffman because he is back from the WC yet and they are most likely working out a transfer fee with the dogs.

What is your point? Both Milford and Hoffman don't want to be at their respective clubs. One wants to leave so he can be closer to family and play for the team he has always supported, the wants to leave because he wants to play fullback despite all signs pointing to the fact he isn't very good at it.

So I ask again, what is your point???

Was as going to reply to the Bears waffle but b4l has summed it up.
Other than to say that the Faders had a problem in the halves, looked elsewhere and found a homesick half under contract. So the holier than thou rubbish is largely just confected outrage.

 

[broncos4life]

Was as going to reply to the Bears waffle but b4l has summed it up.
Other than to say that the Faders had a problem in the halves, looked elsewhere and found a homesick half under contract. So the holier than thou rubbish is largely just confected outrage.

True, the fact that orford turned out to be a complete and utter failure and the bulls played the fact he was 'wanted' and under contract doesn't change the fact that the signed someone that was under contract

 

[papabear]

I'm not having a go here but you posts are really hard to read. Everyone of then just turn into a rant and at times I can't even understand your point as you contradict yourself. I'm just going to point out the most obvious incorrect statements/ assumptions.

Firstly, what do you mean by the standard of fullback play at the broncos vs bulldogs? Fact is Hoffman is not a great fullback, the fact that he couldn't keep his spot for NZ and hodges had to swap with him once we were in the oppositions half sums it up

Brisbane are non-committal about Hoffman because he is back from the WC yet and they are most likely working out a transfer fee with the dogs.

What is your point? Both Milford and Hoffman don't want to be at their respective clubs. One wants to leave so he can be closer to family and play for the team he has always supported, the wants to leave because he wants to play fullback despite all signs pointing to the fact he isn't very good at it.

So I ask again, what is your point???

My point is quite simple.

Considering the broncos position with hoffman, they can hardly complain about canberras position with milford. Which broncos fans like Thadius are doing.

I am not holier then though, I am just sitting in my glass house telling the other people (broncos fans) to stop throwing stones.

 

[Financeguy]

My point is quite simple.

Considering the broncos position with hoffman, they can hardly complain about canberras position with milford. Which broncos fans like Thadius are doing.

I am not holier then though, I am just sitting in my glass house telling the other people (broncos fans) to stop throwing stones.

In a way i kinda agree with you Papa which i think puts me in the minority in here. I know there are differences in the situations regarding family, grey area clauses in contracts on one side vs someone who wants to play in their preferred position on the other but to the average punter it looks like 2 players who don't want to be at their current clubs in 2014.

If Hoffman fronts up to White/Gee/Griffin on his first day back and respectfully tells them that he has enjoyed his time here but due to the future direction of the club and his desire to play fullback with a current option to move to another club to fill that role he would like immediate release from his contract, i would like to think the Broncos would grant that request.

If Hoffman truly doesnt want to be here, does not want to be a utility back and requests as per above and we refuse him, i am certainly not going to have a crack at Canberra for not releasing Milford, regardless of the already highlighted differences in the situations.

 

[broncos4life]

My point is quite simple.

Considering the broncos position with hoffman, they can hardly complain about canberras position with milford. Which broncos fans like Thadius are doing.

I am not holier then though, I am just sitting in my glass house telling the other people (broncos fans) to stop throwing stones.

But they are completely different circumstances. Milford wants to return home to his family, Hoffman wants to leave because we won't continue to sacrifice success and let him stink it up at fullback because he likes to play there.

Also, I am feeling confident the broncos are in the process of releasing him they just want to make sure that the get back their barba transfer fee and also nothing can be done until Hoffman returns.

If you are talking about fans reactions to both, 9 out of 10 broncos fans want the club to release Hoffman because there is no point keeping a player that doesn't want to be here

 

[Mr Fourex]

My point is quite simple.

Considering the broncos position with hoffman, they can hardly complain about canberras position with milford. Which broncos fans like Thadius are doing.

 

[broncos4life]

Haha nice. Sums it up

 

[Mr Fourex]

My point is quite simple.

Considering the broncos position with hoffman, they can hardly complain about canberras position with milford. Which broncos fans like Thadius are doing.

I am not holier then though, I am just sitting in my glass house telling the other people (broncos fans) to stop throwing stones.

The other thing bugging me is........didn't Canberra's new coach break his contract with the Eels so he could sign up with the Raiders?

and didn't this "coach" state that the reasons he did so (break his contract) was because of family reasons....

Anyway you look at it......The Raiders are being a bunch of hypocritical douche bags

 

[Foordy]

lets not compare situations until Hoffman has returned from the World Cup and had a chance to talk to Broncos management. The Milford situation wasn't resolved until he returned, so why should Hoffman be any different.

IF, once he has returned and is still desperate to leave but a release is refused by the Broncos, then Papa may have a point.

Personally , i still think he will be released to the Bulldogs, once the Bulldogs and Broncos agree to a release fee. It will be similar to the Barba scenario. But i doubt he will be released to the Bulldogs for free

 

[FaceOfMutiny]

I think the Broncos should release Hoffman if he really wants to go and play fullback elsewhere and I am a Broncos fan. I have enjoyed watching him at the Broncos and think if he accepted losing the fullback he could end up replacing Hodges when he retires in the number 3 but that isn't what he wants and if he has a better offer to play in his preferred position as a fan I'd like him to be let go. Maybe in a couple of years he will realise he is a Winger/Centre and will come back.

The Milford situation is very different to the Hoffman situation and I don't think they should really be compared. I don't know Halo's situation as I am not his doctor and it seems no one seems to be able to confirm exactly what the situation is(nor is it really the general public's business to know).

What should happen with Milford depends on the wording of the clause in his contract. If he is in a situation where the clause should be available to him then he should be at the Broncos in 2014. But if the clause doesn't fit his situation he should complete his contract at the Raiders.

As a biased Broncos supporter I would love him to be at Red Hill in 2014 but as a general fan of the NRL contracts need to have some worth and teams shouldn't be bullied into letting any player go to another team just because they want to.

 

[Unbreakable]

I believe the NZ/Aus teams get back from the UK tomorrow, so we may be seeing some outcomes within the next 7-10 days.

 

[Danoz Direct]

Hope so, this has dragged on far too long.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I believe Hoffman will get a release if Milford gets a release.

 

[Danoz Direct]

We really only need Hoffman, if we don't get Milford.