Mr Fourex
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......This is so dumb no disrespect
......This is so dumb no disrespect
theshed
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Because you’re saying that someone should have to avoid a certain profession because they morally object to certain aspects of it rather than be apart of the change for better.
League doesn’t need to advertise gambling or alcohol to survive.
I wish more players would push back against it.
007
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You sir are on planet fucking pluto. You quite literally have no idea.
BroncosFever
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You done, or you about to go on another rant about sugar and how that should be made illegal as well? Will someone just please think of the children!
All of these things are choices an individual (believe or not) has the ability to make, every single one of them. Just like Payne Haas had the choice to become a muslim, we don't need to dig into some of the acts muslims have been responsible for, do we?
For the record, I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, I am what they call "straight edge" but I absolutely respect the choices of someone else if they do partake in any of those sort of things. That's exactly how it should be, be responsible for your own decisions but don't expect the world to change to meet your standards unless it's something that's obviously illegal, like any sort of harassment.
theshed
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I drink, smoke, and gamble on occasion. I’ve got nothing against people’s personal choice to do so. Either does Haas by the sound of the story.
Much like smoking though, I don’t think it should be advertised relentlessly on tv by sport stars.
Renegade
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Should fast food?
007
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Gambling advertising is the second biggest earner of income for the NRL. Internal estimates were roughly at 110M for this season. That doesn't even include the money paid to teams directly for sponsorship.
TV rights values are higher because of gambling advertising and their value during prime time.
You take gambling advertising out, and there goes 30% of total income for the NRL and teams. Good luck replacing that with Lego and KMart advertising.
Xzei
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Anyone offering odds on how many pages this thread ends up at before he leaves ive got a pineapple id like to bet
Skathen
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It's likely more pervasive than this, broadcasters inject cash for broadcast deals in the radio, streaming, paytv and free to air - the advertising they display is likely far more transient than the dedicated sponsorships provided the named sponsors, however, it's there in bulk with copious alcohol, gambling and other 'unhealhty' advertising.
The 'problem' is, this is where the money is. People like Haas are completely full of shit. If it meant sticking to these convictions and taking an 50-80% paycut to make this work or shutting up, I know which path he'll take and then perform mental gymnastics on justifying it.
People like Haas love the moral outrage until it adversely affects them, then they go pretty quiet.
theshed
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In an ideal world, yes. Clearly yes.
Renegade
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What should be considered acceptable advertising? Theoretically, advertisements of any type are designed to get you to buy - even if it's to your own financial detriment? Should that type of predatory thinking also be outlawed?
theshed
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I would start with anything aimed at children or during programming with a big child audience. Or anything that costs the country billions a year in health costs.
broncos4life
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Comparing anything anyone has said in here to making light of sexual assault is crazy and disrespectful.
You example doesn’t even make any sense. When you are looking at the women that were assaulted by Weinstein that wasn’t publicly advertised when they chose to go into the acting profession and made clear that was ‘part of the job’.
Gambling and alcohol has been part of RL sponsorship for ever and a day. Haas knew this before he even started playing the game as a kid. For your example to make sense this would of had to have been hidden from until he got signed and was dedicated to RL for them to tell him this.
This is all about Haas trying to make excuses for his shit behaviour and agitate for an early release and I do not understand anyone trying to absolve of this.
BroncosFever
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It's not just Rugby League
Alcohol and gambling advertising is a huge part of revenue in nearly every major sporting league
Alcohol and gambling advertising is a huge part of revenue in nearly every major sporting league
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BRC088
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Just out of curiosity, does he do anything with the Islamic community to promote health and activity etc? Go to Muslim schools to run rugby league programs etc
heartly87
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I get where your coming from and have my own firm stance on alcohol and gambling. But I would argue that it's the responsibility of parents to educate their children on the dangers of these things. Personal responsibility is something we seem to have forgotten. Also the way the parents live their life is more of an example to the children than anything else.
Back on Payne frankly I don't care what he says because he full of it. His convictions are shallow and I wonder if he would have the fortitude to stand by them like Falou did. He needs to stay out of the media before he gets a hand grenade tossed his way and gets asked something that challenges current societal norms.
