Peter Wallace!!!

[Dexter]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

 

[Coxy]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

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[Donny]

This season seems to be really odd IMO. Most of the teams (apart from Dragons) have struggled for consistancy and the same goes for the majority of players. Of course there is the player or two like Thaiday, Slater, Boyd, Luke ect that have been good all year but apart from the few who have been outstanding all year it feels as though nobody has really stood up and taken control and been outstanding. Not making any excuses for Wallce BTW.

Maybe the bye will be good for him and he and Lockyer can get the combo working like it was end of last year!!!

 

[tkday]

[quote="Bucking Beads":3k98639s]So Wallace trys hard so it is all good??? Look we could bicker about this all night but I am still waiting for Wallace to be consistent for more than 30 min's

This about him being bagged as the sole responsible for everything bad that happened to the Broncos lately, or are you unable to tell the difference?

I agree that he needs to improve, never denied it, and neither do the other people taking a stance against the Wallace bashing, but he is by far the best H/B available at the Broncos and there aren't many others out there which I would trade him for. (Thurston, Prince, Cronk... that's it)

If I have said Wallace is the only one to blame I apologise. If he had played a bit better against the Tigers we would have won I have no doubt.[/quote:3k98639s]

You could say that about most people on a team though. If nothing else, everyone knows that you can never blame one person for a loss because it's a team game.

 

[Jeba]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

Wallace did more to win us the game than Norman did, and Norman doesn't get one bad word said about him from the Wallace haters. Yes, Wallace is the senior player, blah blah blah, but he set up a try and got us in good field positions with his kicking game. Obviously, he didn't capatilise on the opportunities as well as he could have, but he also set the platform for Norman, McCullough and Hunt to try and set up a try or two and they all did SFA.

So yes, Wallace could've done better, but if his performance warranted a thread created simply to bag him then there should've been a thread set up for 4 or 5 other players as well. In fact, should've been a whole new forum dedicated to Norman's performance.

 

[Porthoz]

Wallace did more to win us the game than Norman did, and Norman doesn't get one bad word said about him from the Wallace haters. Yes, Wallace is the senior player, blah blah blah, but he set up a try and got us in good field positions with his kicking game. Obviously, he didn't capatilise on the opportunities as well as he could have, but he also set the platform for Norman, McCullough and Hunt to try and set up a try or two and they all did SFA.

So yes, Wallace could've done better, but if his performance warranted a thread created simply to bag him then there should've been a thread set up for 4 or 5 other players as well. In fact, should've been a whole new forum dedicated to Norman's performance.

Blasphemy!
You don't know anything about footy mate, clearly. [icon_shady

 

[Dexter]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

Wallace did more to win us the game than Norman did, and Norman doesn't get one bad word said about him from the Wallace haters. Yes, Wallace is the senior player, blah blah blah, but he set up a try and got us in good field positions with his kicking game. Obviously, he didn't capatilise on the opportunities as well as he could have, but he also set the platform for Norman, McCullough and Hunt to try and set up a try or two and they all did SFA.

So yes, Wallace could've done better, but if his performance warranted a thread created simply to bag him then there should've been a thread set up for 4 or 5 other players as well. In fact, should've been a whole new forum dedicated to Norman's performance.

So why direct that to me? I am not a Wallace hater, I didn't start the thread, I haven't bagged him and to compare the other 3 young guys to Wallace pfft.

 

[Professor47]

This season seems to be really odd IMO. Most of the teams (apart from Dragons) have struggled for consistancy and the same goes for the majority of players. Of course there is the player or two like Thaiday, Slater, Boyd, Luke ect that have been good all year but apart from the few who have been outstanding all year it feels as though nobody has really stood up and taken control and been outstanding. Not making any excuses for Wallce BTW.

Maybe the bye will be good for him and he and Lockyer can get the combo working like it was end of last year!!!

Expanding on that point I think the comp has been the most boring one I've seen in the past 5 years. Unless we have a cracking final series I don't see much excitement. The finals are always fun but seriously... ZZzzzZZzzzz

 

[Jeba]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

Wallace did more to win us the game than Norman did, and Norman doesn't get one bad word said about him from the Wallace haters. Yes, Wallace is the senior player, blah blah blah, but he set up a try and got us in good field positions with his kicking game. Obviously, he didn't capatilise on the opportunities as well as he could have, but he also set the platform for Norman, McCullough and Hunt to try and set up a try or two and they all did SFA.

So yes, Wallace could've done better, but if his performance warranted a thread created simply to bag him then there should've been a thread set up for 4 or 5 other players as well. In fact, should've been a whole new forum dedicated to Norman's performance.

So why direct that to me? I am not a Wallace hater, I didn't start the thread, I haven't bagged him and to compare the other 3 young guys to Wallace pfft.

Sorry mate it wasn't meant to be directed at you specifically.

And really, why not compare the other blokes to Wallace?

 

[Nashy]

I'm in the "Wallace Hater" group, and I think Norman is absolutely rubbish. Halves and Fullback.

 

[Dexter]

I have been following this thread with a bit of interest and I can't beleive how so many can interpret a bit of criticism as bagging out a player or how some can't seem to follow that what we are pointing out about Wallace is not that he lost us the game but that he didn't, with all the chance in the world, WIN the game.

There is a massive difference, and it is what you want to start seeing from Wallace when his chance to run the side on his own comes along.
He has played beside Locky for 3 years now, he has played SoO and is in his 5th year of NRL so when he gets his chance he needs to show what he can do. That is not a bagging of him as a player, simply stateing what a good half should be doing at this stage of his career.

I can rarely fault his effort and he won't lose us a game but you can't set out in anything to not lose or that is exactly what you will get.

Wallace did more to win us the game than Norman did, and Norman doesn't get one bad word said about him from the Wallace haters. Yes, Wallace is the senior player, blah blah blah, but he set up a try and got us in good field positions with his kicking game. Obviously, he didn't capatilise on the opportunities as well as he could have, but he also set the platform for Norman, McCullough and Hunt to try and set up a try or two and they all did SFA.

So yes, Wallace could've done better, but if his performance warranted a thread created simply to bag him then there should've been a thread set up for 4 or 5 other players as well. In fact, should've been a whole new forum dedicated to Norman's performance.

So why direct that to me? I am not a Wallace hater, I didn't start the thread, I haven't bagged him and to compare the other 3 young guys to Wallace pfft.

Sorry mate it wasn't meant to be directed at you specifically.

And really, why not compare the other blokes to Wallace?

No problem icon_thumbs_u

I think it's unfair to compare because Wallace has had a pretty good apprenticeship and the young guys just don't have the experience.

I think Wallace has the talent and the experience and really we should be seeing that when his pigs dominate.

 

[bent]

I almost feel ashamed to have contributed to this thread after all the wallace bashing thats gone on since. But its been entertaining none the least! :) Im going to throw another thought out there and say wallace probably doesnt have the combinations with the amount of players in the team he should have at this time of the year. Lockyer runs alot of our plays and probably does so in training as well, all the players probably gravitate to locky instead of wallace at the moment.

So without these combinations its very hard for a halfback to have a B game if things are not going well with the structured stuff. I think in hind sight thats what happens sometimes with Wal lately. He appears to be a quiet guy and because he doesnt have a less confidence at the moment i bet his communication has dropped even more and the people around him, trying to play off him dont know what hes thinking. The amount of roster changes in the backs we have seen probably hasnt helped this year either.

I think the blues teams has in recent years highlighted how important combinations can be to a team.

 

[rnabokov]

Just watched the highlights of the Souths match. Wallace I reckon was pretty good, and. Norman too. Out wide, we were outstanding a lot of the time. Wallace passed well, even the intercept was a beautiful pass.

We flogged the Rabbits. Without Locky etc..

That's good to know we can be that good.

 

[Porthoz]

Just watched the highlights of the Souths match. Wallace I reckon was pretty good, and. Norman too. Out wide, we were outstanding a lot of the time. Wallace passed well, even the intercept was a beautiful pass.

We flogged the Rabbits. Without Locky etc..

That's good to know we can be that good.

That's an interesting coincidence. I copied that game onto DVD yesterday and came to exactly the same conclusion.
Funny part is that when comparing the Panthers and Tigers game, Wallace wasn't off the mark. Locky was a bit flat against the Panthers backing up from Origin and Norman was practically inexistant against the Tigers, yet Wallace cops all the flak... [icon_shru

 

[Coxy]

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHHH!!!

Wallace is the halfback! He's as important as the five-eighth, and being a senior player (5 years first grade experience now) he should be able to step up and take control if the other half is off his game.

Langer, Thurston, Johns, Jones were/are masters at performing even if their 6 was/is off their game. No Wallace isn't at their level and it's not fair to compare him to true champion halfbacks when Wallace is nothing more than a solid first grader. But that's all I'm saying, Wallace is a solid first grader. He's not a match winner.

 

[Jeba]

But at least Wallace did SOMETHING. Norman did NOTHING but it's Wallace who gets the thread!!!!

 

[Anonymous person]

how many years has Norman played for? Wallace? whos the one on the 250k+ a season contract, wallace or norman?

 

[tkday]

If Norman, Hunt and Macca are in first grade I expect them to be able to play first grade quality. Granted Wallace is not playing fantastic, but the other guys are expected to perform at least close to him, but they are not. Even when Wallace is in a slump the other guys are no where near.