Pick Kevvie's round one team with odds

BooKhaki

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I'm really ok with Lee in the centres, Oates outside him. That's size and experience together. I prefer that to Herbie tbh.. Herbie can play reserve grade or swap out with Cobbo.

Personally, I'd like to see Herbie try his time as a fullback or go learn how to defend at centre in reggies and he can work his way back into the side.

Side just seems way more balanced like that. You have Cobbo and NIU as the inexperienced backs.
Brenko hasn't been good enough to replace Herbie. Unless there are injuries, Brenko really should be in ISC. Herbie is a bang average defender, but he is still a better defender than Brenko.
 

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Brenko hasn't been good enough to replace Herbie. Unless there are injuries, Brenko really should be in ISC. Herbie is a bang average defender, but he is still a better defender than Brenko.
Thats pretty harsh assessment especially considering he was not too long ago playing origin.
 

Fitzy

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Why would you pick Brenko on the wing ahead of Oates? Brenko has always been useless when tried on the wing, and Oates has been our best winger for a long time.
Shift to the wing would suggest someone was already in the side. I was referring to Cobbo on the wing and Brenko in the centres
 

BooKhaki

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Shift to the wing would suggest someone was already in the side. I was referring to Cobbo on the wing and Brenko in the centres
Ok I must have misread your message. I still disagree either way.
Thats pretty harsh assessment especially considering he was not too long ago playing origin.
So was Corey Allan, Dunamis Lui and Edrick Lee.
 

Fitzy

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Ok I must have misread your message. I still disagree either way.

So was Corey Allan, Dunamis Lui and Edrick Lee.
True but the difference is Edrick and Brenko haven’t played since for them to be regarded so shit.
 

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He might light it up! He could be the perfect little trickster Sam Walker type that combines well with Adam's style.

However.

I love Gamble as a player. If he doesn't get the 6 first up, and we don't have a spot in that starting lineup, I'd love to see him sign on at the Dolphins (his home) and we get to see more of him in the NRL.

He's a top quality player in waiting, he just needs more time at the top

Let the record show Mr Marty Deutschmann Marty Deutschmann is first - and indeed the only - passenger on the Puffing Billy train.

Feel free to use this post as proof.

I've been thinking about Gamble going to Redcliffe, and it might make sense if he's overlooked in favour of a transition from Kelly to Mam this season. He deserves to start. He'd come in at good value, but Bennett would have to pair him with a marquee half, someone of the calibre of Munster, Ponga, etc. The money he'd save on Gamble he could splash on them.

But there's a hitch that rules that out: Seth is signed for another two seasons.
 

Dash

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I'm really ok with Lee in the centres, Oates outside him. That's size and experience together. I prefer that to Herbie tbh.. Herbie can play reserve grade or swap out with Cobbo.

Personally, I'd like to see Herbie try his time as a fullback or go learn how to defend at centre in reggies and he can work his way back into the side.

Side just seems way more balanced like that. You have Cobbo and NIU as the inexperienced backs.
Personally I'd prefer Herbie over Niu no matter the position.
 

Marty Deutschmann

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Personally I'd prefer Herbie over Niu no matter the position.
Cool.

However, this is the "what side do you think Kevie will pick", not the "what is your personal preference thread.

I have stated that Lee and Herbie and switching between firsts at left centre, and that there's a real possibility Lee will get the nod

I'm trying to justify why I think that could be a good move for the side overall. There's one thing I've seen Kevie consistent on, is anything out of the Melbourne system he gives a fair bit of faith to, as well as Donuts for obvious reasons.

It makes sense when you completely remove all emotional ties to the side and wipe it all to a clean slate
 

Marty Deutschmann

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Let the record show Mr Marty Deutschmann Marty Deutschmann is first - and indeed the only - passenger on the Puffing Billy train.

Feel free to use this post as proof.

I've been thinking about Gamble going to Redcliffe, and it might make sense if he's overlooked in favour of a transition from Kelly to Mam this season. He deserves to start. He'd come in at good value, but Bennett would have to pair him with a marquee half, someone of the calibre of Munster, Ponga, etc. The money he'd save on Gamble he could splash on them.

But there's a hitch that rules that out: Seth is signed for another two seasons.
I'm just calling it early. I also said I thought it was a bold and risky choice... After watching that podcast video also, they echoed my exact same concerns.

However, at this point, I think Billy is a chance.

Let the meltdowns continue 😅
 

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Something that has been on my mind is the lock position and specifically Kobe Hetherington. Kevie seemed set on having either flegler or carrigan in at lock and Kobe only really got his shot by defualt. We were down on troops due to suspension and injuries and he kinda just fell into the position.

He ended up doing a really good job in lock and by the end became one of the real finds of the season for us and one of my favourite players. Put on some good hits and really cuts guys in half, works hard and can ball play to an extent. He's probably not a big meter eater but the glue that holds the pack together. The type of mid range player who doesnt cost a fortune but contributes quite a bit.

I'm interested to see where kevie rates him amongst a fully fit 30 man squad. I feel like he either starts at lock or he's left out all together.

I like the way he's been developed too. Didnt debut until he was 22 but he didn't shit the bed like many of the guys who were blooded early.

Going to be interested to see where he fits into the squad this season
 

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Something that has been on my mind is the lock position and specifically Kobe Hetherington. Kevie seemed set on having either flegler or carrigan in at lock and Kobe only really got his shot by defualt. We were down on troops due to suspension and injuries and he kinda just fell into the position.

He ended up doing a really good job in lock and by the end became one of the real finds of the season for us and one of my favourite players. Put on some good hits and really cuts guys in half, works hard and can ball play to an extent. He's probably not a big meter eater but the glue that holds the pack together. The type of mid range player who doesnt cost a fortune but contributes quite a bit.

I'm interested to see where kevie rates him amongst a fully fit 30 man squad. I feel like he either starts at lock or he's left out all together.

I like the way he's been developed too. Didnt debut until he was 22 but he didn't shit the bed like many of the guys who were blooded early.

Going to be interested to see where he fits into the squad this season
To Kev’s credit I think he rates him highly. The club gave him broncos rookie of the year in a season that saw Cobbo and Robati announce their arrival. Plus he has talked him up a few times in interviews and said something to the effect of turning him into “our version victor radley” - ie an aggressive ball playing lock.

So Kev definitely sees a big future for Hetherington at lock, it’s just whether or not Kev sees his time as now or if he’ll be slowly introduced
 

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To Kev’s credit I think he rates him highly. The club gave him broncos rookie of the year in a season that saw Cobbo and Robati announce their arrival. Plus he has talked him up a few times in interviews and said something to the effect of turning him into “our version victor radley” - ie an aggressive ball playing lock.

So Kev definitely sees a big future for Hetherington at lock, it’s just whether or not Kev sees his time as now or if he’ll be slowly introduced
Not just Kev, but Ikin too based on his comments late last year. I think he even brought him up rather than being asked about him? Mentioned how much he like his style and that he is like a Radley type of player I think he said?

Most of the time those sort of statements come from a collective attitude towards a player, it's positioning, marketing to the fans almost. No chance he's said that out of his own personal opinion rather than that's what's been a consensus from roster meetings
 

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Something that has been on my mind is the lock position and specifically Kobe Hetherington. Kevie seemed set on having either flegler or carrigan in at lock and Kobe only really got his shot by defualt. We were down on troops due to suspension and injuries and he kinda just fell into the position.

He ended up doing a really good job in lock and by the end became one of the real finds of the season for us and one of my favourite players. Put on some good hits and really cuts guys in half, works hard and can ball play to an extent. He's probably not a big meter eater but the glue that holds the pack together. The type of mid range player who doesnt cost a fortune but contributes quite a bit.

I'm interested to see where kevie rates him amongst a fully fit 30 man squad. I feel like he either starts at lock or he's left out all together.

I like the way he's been developed too. Didnt debut until he was 22 but he didn't shit the bed like many of the guys who were blooded early.

Going to be interested to see where he fits into the squad this season

Hetherington was terrific, his attitude was and is great. He's played at Norths in ISC and Colts and then Souths and Valleys trying to get a run and never dropped his bundle- his dad and the fact he's had to work so hard are two things in his corner.

He started the last season so well for Souths and had to play NRL. The ball bounces for him because he puts himself there for it- He scored five tries in seven ISC games just reading the situation and being there.

He will develop into one of those players that you just find a spot for in the team. He will do the work and he's the type of player Kevvie loves- blue collar and honest.

Zac has gone back to the Dogs and I thought he was worth a development deal too. He's very similar in every way.
 

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I feel like the squad has so much better balance now:

X-Factor:
Staggs, Cobbo, Haas to an extent, Mam potentially though of course not yet, Niu at times - Obviously still lacking here at present but the kids progressing should result in having more of these guys in the future, Staggs is really the only bankable one at present and of course Haas but to a lesser extent

A-Grade:
Reynolds - there are only really three or four genuine halfbacks of a high quality in the entire game and we have one of the very best, Capewell, Haas, Staggs, obviously a number of the kids with potential to get here but they aren't yet

B-Grade:
Carrigan, Oates, Lee (probably pretty generous here), Farnworth, Flegler (A grade potential)

C-Grade:
Niu (probably C+ but his horrid defense brings him down here), James (more B grade if injury free), Jensen, Pereira, Riki (likely B-grade by end of season), Turpin, Paix (hopefully at B-grade at some point this season), Robati (massive potential), Kennedy (C- depending on which version of him is on the field), Hetherington (this is no slight in him, he's a defensive hitman and we need that so much, he's got a lot more in his kitbag too), Gamble (A grade in pestness), Walters, Kelly, etc

Journeymen with the ability to be above pay grade if they are at their best:
James, Jensen, Lee, Kennedy to an extent, Kelly, Walters - much better than previous seasons as we've had only unready kids or overpaid prima donnas

Kids with Upside:
Farnworth, Niu, Cobbo, Mariner, Piakura, Riki, Robati, Paix, Mam, Mozer, Willison, etc (don't want to name the younger ones as the Roosters will poach them)

The squad still isn't quite there yet but the balance looks so much better overall this year.
 

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Hmm. . Tyson Gamble has been over playing his hand a bit at training in his limited opportunities 😔 just not himself as the pressure to win that 6 jersey continues to plague his mind and defer his natural game
 

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