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Staggs at 6 ain't going to cut it..FFS. I hope Reynolds is prepared to carry this spine on his back.
Staggs at 6 ain't going to cut it..FFS. I hope Reynolds is prepared to carry this spine on his back.
Imagine 11 weeks being too long to wait for your "childhood dream". I guess money talks.
At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old bastard you could frame everything he has said there as the definition of this latest generation of teenagers/early 20's. Literally can not wait for anything.Why Walsh left the Broncos, he says:
“I never thought I would leave the Broncos,” Walsh says.
“It was a dream of mine to play NRL for Brisbane. I remember when I was seven years old, I would run around with a Broncos jersey on wishing I could play for the Broncos.
“That’s something I always wanted to do, but then the Warriors came into the picture and they were very clear with the opportunity they could give me.
“I wanted to play first grade, but Kevvie (Broncos coach Kevin Walters) didn’t think I was quite ready.
“There’s nothing against the Broncos for me. They have played a major part in who I am as a player and person, but the Warriors have been great to me and I’m grateful for the opportunity they gave me to play NRL.”
That's fair and ironically coming out and saying "I have a child to support for so I took the highest offer" would have been a hell of a lot more relatable and respectable than what he said.Already has a kid to support, of course it does.
That's fair and ironically coming out and saying "I have a child to support for so I took the highest offer" would have been a hell of a lot more relatable and respectable than what he said.
You don’t think that some in Q Cup would aided in his disgusting defence?What he said was he felt he was ready for first grade and the Warriors thought he was too.
I understand the Broncos position on him, but it turns out they were wrong. I didn't even know he had a kid until a few days ago. His position is perfectly respectable as it is imo. Professionally and personally, he took the better offer. What we imagine for ourselves growing up often doesn't work out, for various reasons.
At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old bastard you could frame everything he has said there as the definition of this latest generation of teenagers/early 20's. Literally can not wait for anything.
Summing that whole thing up he says "playing for the Broncos is everything I ever wanted, but oh well I don't wanna wait a month or two so I'll go to the Warriors".
A few years ago we were interviewing for a new CEO at the organisation I was with and we got at least 5 applications from 18 year olds with no work experience applying for the position. At the time I wrote it off as dole bludgers submitting them knowing they wouldn't get it, however the more I see of them the more I realise it is just what this generation is like.
You don’t think that some in Q Cup would aided in his disgusting defence?
Fair points but haven't seen a great of defence improve by being thrown in the deep end especially when a players attack is so good, they will rely on the attack and end up like Matt Dufty.With fullbacks, you often have to offset defense for attacking ability. He also had the chance to learn under RTS for the rest of the year - pretty hard to pass up I'd say, combined with the other mitigating factors.
That said, he's had the occasional **** up in defence, but also showed Slater-esque determination to stop tries. He'll improve more from first grade experience. Like KHunt - some kids you chuck in and they swim instead of sinking.
Fair points but haven't seen a great of defence improve by being thrown in the deep end especially when a players attack is so good, they will rely on the attack and end up like Matt Dufty.
My original point was more about how ridiculous it is to say all you ever wanted was to play for the Broncos yet you couldn't wait a small amount of time to achieve that? It just sounds bizarre.
I don't think you can hold it against a player for leaving for substantially more money or to go somewhere they feel more wanted. Fifita, for example, would have been irresponsible to knock back the Titans for the money alone. Dearden, Walker and Walsh all went to clubs who seemed to believe in them more. Macca did a bit of both. As did Reynolds coming to Brisbane. They were offered longer contracts than their existing clubs were willing to underwrite.What he said was he felt he was ready for first grade and the Warriors thought he was too.
I understand the Broncos position on him, but it turns out they were wrong. I didn't even know he had a kid until a few days ago. His position is perfectly respectable as it is imo. Professionally and personally, he took the better offer. What we imagine for ourselves growing up often doesn't work out, for various reasons.
I don't think you can hold it against a player for leaving for substantially more money or to go somewhere they feel more wanted. Fifita, for example, would have been irresponsible to knock back the Titans for the money alone. Dearden, Walker and Walsh all went to clubs who seemed to believe in them more. Macca did a bit of both. As did Reynolds coming to Brisbane. They were offered longer contracts than their existing clubs were willing to underwrite.
Clubs can't always afford to keep every player they want. That's how we got Israel Folau and why we lost David Fifita. Money won. And unless you can compensate with lifestyle it will almost always win. We didn't lose Nicho Hynes to money. We lost because he got the money PLUS the lifestyle (surfing and family) he wanted.
No, the one that really hurts is when a player leaves not for money or lifestyle, but because he's rejected your club/coach in favour of one he thinks is superior. That's what happened with Xavier Coates. He chose Bellamy over Walters. That one really hits us in the nuts. Not just because he did it, and told us why, but because we all nodded our head and understood.
I don't think you are really understanding me, I'm not frustrated and I don't really give a **** about Walsh because unless he works on his defense he won't have a long career once the hype has died down. My comment is more directed against the comment of "Always wanted to be a Bronco but couldn't because I had to play some Q Cup first".Yes thus the mitigating factors. He has a kid, he got a huge offer from the Warriors and the chance to learn under RTS. Plus Broncos are a shit show - I'm sure he didn't envision himself playing for the wooden spoon Broncos growing up.
On the D - I've already seen Walsh put more effort into saving a try than Dufty could ever dream of. He will come good, and will be a QLD great in time.
Totally understand your frustration if that's where you're coming from. I want blokes who say they want to play for the Broncos to play for them regardless of circumstance, but it's not like that anymore.
I don't think you are really understanding me, I'm not frustrated and I don't really give a **** about Walsh because unless he works on his defense he won't have a long career once the hype has died down. My comment is more directed against the comment of "Always wanted to be a Bronco but couldn't because I had to play some Q Cup first".
Just shut the **** up, say you left for the money or the starting spot but leave the undying love for the Broncos out of it because it makes you sound like an absolute deadshit. Going from "Growing up always wanting to be a Bronco" to gone on the basis of the club wanting to handle your development better than they have previously either makes you sound like a liar or a fuckstick.