POST GAME Round 15 - Broncos vs Dragons

[bazza]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but what sort of jersey did we play in? Is it some special occasion jersey?

 

[mitch222]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but what sort of jersey did we play in? Is it some special occasion jersey?

A jersey to do with the story bridge I think. A one off apparently.

 

[rnabokov]

Yeah, what was it with our forwards actually running onto the ball, hitting the advantage line at a bit of pace? Haven't seen that at the Broncos for about 5 years.

Paix and Dearden

 

[bazza]

A jersey to do with the story bridge I think. A one off apparently.

I thought it was a training jersey. I thought maybe Gentle was trying something different after he realised they train better than they play.

 

[rnabokov]

Sorry but I disagree, it was soft by both of them.

It was, and the real problem here is the absolute failure of a proper defensive structure on our goal line. As Fatty observed: "only 1 player in front of him (the try scorer)". You stack your goal line defence where the obvious play is a crash where a clever read by Hunt showed exactly that glaring defensive lapse. As well, a single player (Kennedy) defending a hole on the goal line - with Offa passively looking on - and standing flat footed against a crash play yielded the predictable result.

 

[pagey]

It was, and the real problem here is the absolute failure of a proper defensive structure on our goal line. As Fatty observed: "only 1 player in front of him (the try scorer)". You stack your goal line defence where the obvious play is a crash where a clever read by Hunt showed exactly that glaring defensive lapse. As well, a single player (Kennedy) defending a hole on the goal line - with Offa passively looking on - and standing flat footed against a crash play yielded the predictable result.

Exactly and I'm more than certain seibold was in charge of the defensive structures. Everyone has worked us out defensively.

 

[bazza]

I like what Rhys Kennedy brings. I think he is still finding his feet in first grade, but he could be a really handy player to have come off the bench. Having a team performing well would be better, and would make it easier for him to establish himself in the NRL.

I think he would benefit with playing a bit heavier though. He is quite skinny since he is so tall, and I think his frame would allow him to carry some extra weight. He would be pretty damaging and hard to handle if he put on about 5 kg of pure muscle.

 

[rnabokov]

I like what Rhys Kennedy brings. I think he is still finding his feet in first grade, but he could be a really handy player to have come off the bench. Having a team performing well would be better, and would make it easier for him to establish himself in the NRL.

I think he would benefit with playing a bit heavier though. He is quite skinny since he is so tall, and I think his frame would allow him to carry some extra weight. He would be pretty damaging and hard to handle if he put on about 5 kg of pure muscle.

I like Kennedy. Kennedy would really benefit from someone mentoring him, like Civo or Webcke.

 

[Sproj]

Kennedy is one of the guys who gets out there and rips in, hasn't let all the outside noise disinterest him, I rate that a lot. He would be on my bench moving forward even at full strength.

 

[rnabokov]

Kennedy is one of the guys who gets out there and rips in, hasn't let all the outside noise disinterest him, I rate that a lot. He would be on my bench moving forward even at full strength.

He shares the passion for being a Bronc. Exactly what we need

 

[Brett]

I like what Rhys Kennedy brings. I think he is still finding his feet in first grade, but he could be a really handy player to have come off the bench. Having a team performing well would be better, and would make it easier for him to establish himself in the NRL.

I think he would benefit with playing a bit heavier though. He is quite skinny since he is so tall, and I think his frame would allow him to carry some extra weight. He would be pretty damaging and hard to handle if he put on about 5 kg of pure muscle.

5KG of pure muscle? He doesn't have 4-5 years to wait. He'll have to settle for about 0.5kg and the rest fat, not that it really matters.

 

[bazza]

5KG of pure muscle? He doesn't have 4-5 years to wait. He'll have to settle for about 0.5kg and the rest fat, not that it really matters.

It takes 4-5 years to gain 5kg of lean muscle? Really?

 

[Brett]

It takes 4-5 years to gain 5kg of lean muscle? Really?

Of 100% contractile tissue, for someone who's already exhausted newbie gains and has been training hypertrophy with progressive overload for more than 5-6 years, absolutely. (Most NRL players will fit this mould)

How long do you think it would take him to gain 5kg of pure muscle with no fat?

 

[bazza]

Of 100% contractile tissue, for someone who's already exhausted newbie gains and has been training hypertrophy with progressive overload for more than 5-6 years, absolutely. (Most NRL players will fit this mould)

How long do you think it would take him to gain 5kg of pure muscle with no fat?

Interesting. In that case, I think about 115kg would be a better playing weight for him. As you say, 0.5kg of muscle and the rest fat.

You always hear about putting on muscle. I believe the Panthers were saying Cleary put on 4kg of pure muscle over the off season. Based on that I thought 5kg would be achievable over an off season.

 

[Brett]

Interesting. In that case, I think about 115kg would be a better playing weight for him. As you say, 0.5kg of muscle and the rest fat.

You always hear about putting on muscle. I believe the Panthers were saying Cleary put on 4kg of pure muscle over the off season. Based on that I thought 5kg would be achievable over an off season.

A lot of journalists say stuff like this, even players do. Without a serious dose of steroids, it would be tremendously unlikely to put on 4kgs of pure muscle in 6 months for someone who's been lifting weights for years. If you're starting out - sure - that and more. If Cleary put on 4kgs of weight in 6 months, it's likely that nearly all of it is fat/water weight/glycogen retention. That's not a terrible thing, as athletes can still perform at higher levels of body fat very well, but it's just not pure muscle.

This article does a reasonable job of explaining it, or there's lots of knowledgable people on YouTube like More Plates More Dates - https://www.builtlean.com/2011/10/1...d-muscle-5-factors-that-affect-muscle-growth/