POST GAME Round 5 - Sea Eagles vs Broncos

[Bronco Billy]

Why are people thinking we were hard done by exactly? We completely stopped playing at half time.

I totally agree
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A lot of changes need to be made, starting with the coach.

 

[BroncsFan]

After sleeping on it I feel like I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t have much left to give this game. More often than not it takes up almost my entire weekend 30 times throughout a year. There is an obvious bias against the club I love and have spent thousands of dollars on and if the club doesn’t give a shit about changing that bias then why should I? They continue to bring in rules to hinder the Broncos and the Broncos alone, on and off the field and even when we abide by the rules we get fucked over.

Super League should have won

To me this is the kind of thing that needs to be illustrated to the NRL.

They can sit there and take advice from coaches, NSWRL media and their broadcasters, however all those stakeholders have clear agendas that they are looking for from the game... and ultimately there is no game without the fans yet the fans views are only portrayed after being filtered through the media outlets, after their agenda has been applied (one ref anyone??).

The item that doesn't seem to get addressed is the disillusionment of the fans from the game, evidenced by dropping crowds (or lack of growth), drop of juniors, drop of TV audiences.

The NRL should be shit scared of these numbers and they are losing touch with the fans base. Media is the primary revenue for the game and are given far too much influence over the game, but it's not like they're going to keep telecasting or writing articles for themselves... if the NRL lose fans the game dies.

All a fan wants is their team to be given fair chance in the game... if their team is shit that's on the team, but having the officiating manufacturing and manipulating the flow of a game is outright fraudulent... yet the manufacturing and bias is rife
- everyone is aware of the "make up" penalties and the total lottery of the judiciary (media suggest they are speaking for the population as a guise for their agenda "conduit to the people")
- "managing of games" where you see a heavy flow of penalties to change momentum for tight contests and better viewing (clear influence on Broncos vs Cows games to be tight)
- perceived bias towards teams (rabbitohs, roosters), regional teams needing to be successful (cows, knights, Melbourne, etc.)
- no control of the TV schedule (Broncos get night games almost exclusively which will significantly impact their supporter base moving forward)
- fairytale premiership... rabbitohs 2014 should have an asterisk it was that bias, and parra look to be well on their way

 

[pagey]

Has he ever played hooker before? You make it sound like it's not a specialist role.

Like Macca, Turpin was a halfback made hooker. Not unlike Paix, but had spent more time there. Turpin turned into a pretty decent hooker but was a critical disaster when he returned to the halves. Macca didn't fare so well in the halves either.

Not sure, like 1910 has stated paix has played **** all 9 so how could it be any worse. He's spent time with the best hooker of all time, surely he has some idea. And it's not like I'm saying move him there fulltime, but I think it's the best option for the team atm. To tell you the truth I don't rate the guy to highly as a half, I expect dearden to overtake him in the near future .

 

[mrslong]

The officiating was crap. Klein was crap on the field, but he actually sent up our try as a try.

We ONLY have our narcissist coach and our DUMB players to blame. We were up 18-0 ffs. YES, we were dudded a try (was probably no try, and DCE's probably should have been no try). However, we are a bunch of idiots. I just want one smart footballer. Hodges is the last real "smart" footballer we had.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

shame alot of our former great players are death riding us.

It's because they're paid to do so. "**** the Broncos" sells in the south, unsurprisingly.

 

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[Sproj]

Come on, as if they were going to say it was incorrect after the week before, given who the opposition was. No comment on the no-try and try no-try I assume.

 

[Unbreakable]

I don't understand how that's the correct decision..

If a player passes the ball as the referee calls held, he gets the ball back to play it.. if a player strips the ball as the referee calls held.. it's a penalty?

How 's that even fair

 

[I bleed Maroon]

Someone remind me how much we were paying for 13+ before kick off last night?

 

[Sproj]

I don't understand how that's the correct decision..

If a player passes the ball as the referee calls held, he gets the ball back to play it.. if a player strips the ball as the referee calls held.. it's a penalty?

How 's that even fair

Let's see what happens next time it occurs, likely this round.

 

[Broncos Maestro]

After watching the no try of Boyd’s last night, I think the boys should be coached into that if a dummy runner even breathes on you, the defender should drop to the ground as if hit by a semi and then appeal for obstruction (regardless of whether it results in a try or not).
If we can’t beat the corrupt system, then we need to start playing to it until the N(SW)RL is “forced” to remove it!
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Someone remind me how much we were paying for 13+ before kick off last night?

I’m more interested on what 1-12 Manly win was paying and who made substantial bets.

Also why the hell were some Manly fans allowed into the game? If they start allowing this shit, then they also need to let opposing fans in too!

 

[Jedhead]

To me this is the kind of thing that needs to be illustrated to the NRL.

They can sit there and take advice from coaches, NSWRL media and their broadcasters, however all those stakeholders have clear agendas that they are looking for from the game... and ultimately there is no game without the fans yet the fans views are only portrayed after being filtered through the media outlets, after their agenda has been applied (one ref anyone??).

The item that doesn't seem to get addressed is the disillusionment of the fans from the game, evidenced by dropping crowds (or lack of growth), drop of juniors, drop of TV audiences.

The NRL should be shit scared of these numbers and they are losing touch with the fans base. Media is the primary revenue for the game and are given far too much influence over the game, but it's not like they're going to keep telecasting or writing articles for themselves... if the NRL lose fans the game dies.

All a fan wants is their team to be given fair chance in the game... if their team is shit that's on the team, but having the officiating manufacturing and manipulating the flow of a game is outright fraudulent... yet the manufacturing and bias is rife
- everyone is aware of the "make up" penalties and the total lottery of the judiciary (media suggest they are speaking for the population as a guise for their agenda "conduit to the people")
- "managing of games" where you see a heavy flow of penalties to change momentum for tight contests and better viewing (clear influence on Broncos vs Cows games to be tight)
- perceived bias towards teams (rabbitohs, roosters), regional teams needing to be successful (cows, knights, Melbourne, etc.)
- no control of the TV schedule (Broncos get night games almost exclusively which will significantly impact their supporter base moving forward)
- fairytale premiership... rabbitohs 2014 should have an asterisk it was that bias, and parra look to be well on their way

I agree with so much of what you have expressed here matey. NSWRL are paranoid of Brisbane. They live in hope that their areas of population will somehow find a new found love of the game if only they can make it appealing. So The fairlytale Dragons GF win even though the club never looked like winning one and haven't looked like winning one since. Cronulla's win was to satisfy their long suffering fans and was so fixed. Then there is Melbourne who are either winning it every year or at least playing in the final to try and keep the Victorians interested. Everyone south of the border like nothing more than to see the Broncos get pumped. The parochial commentary teams are just a symptom of them all being based in Sydney, they think it's only Sydney fans watching.

Last night's stitch up was so transparent despite our own guys turning in some dumb plays in the second half. Nevertheless, Boyd's no try resulted in them marching down field on the back of a few penalties and a 6 again call to score which was effectively a ten point turnaround just before halftime. I knew then Desy was getting his two points come the end of the night and when DCE missed his field goal it was so obvious Manly were getting that penalty right in front of the sticks. The simultaneous grab has for several years now been restarted by just giving the player in possession the ball back.

Manly's first captains challenge was ruled to be poor ball security by Klein, but the video ref overturned him and said Flegs played at the ball. Now even if he did ( he never he was totally unsighted).. even if he did - Klein called it a penalty for poor ball security so there should have been no argument. The video ref made a completely different call when all he was asked to check if there was poor ball security. Absolute bollocks. When Boyd's try was disallowed, Klein again had ruled a try. Everyone in the Ch 9 team agreed for an instant and then realized it was the Broncos and so said virtually nothing when it was overturned.

The same when MILF kicked a 40/20 and it was ignored. They commentary team decided not to dwell on that major blue either.

If the club wants to keep their fanbase they need to risk the $10K fine and start to point this shit out while they are being recorded live. If they dont - it will continue ad infinitum resulting in the club slowly dying a long drawn out death.

MILFS first tackle of the night was a full on body slam and no sign of arm grabbing. I think he has been unfairly bagged. he can only do something once his halves partner gets the team to an organised attacking position. There was not much of that happening in the second half. His kick for Coatsy's try was inch perfect and was one of the highlights of the night. I even thought Boyd lifted last night but must surely still be on his final warning.

 

[TimWhatley]

I had a good laugh at Haas last night defusing that manly grubber near the try line. Maybe it's time to chuck him at fullback.

 

[Alec]

By comparison anyone able to show Lockyers try assists for his last remaining years, I know he is god but I don’t think he would’ve had more than maybe 20 a season, probably less?

Lockyer also pretty much played as the chief organiser in his last 2 or 3 years as well. Setting up tries and directing the team.

 

[johnyE]

Well despite all the negatives , I actually nearly enjoyed this game . One because I was actually able to watch the whole 80 ,but 2 If we have to lose ,which we absolutely shouldn't have , I don't mind losing albeit by poor discipline and intensity , dud ref calls, or shit game plan . It was a small reward for a better effort ,that should have secured a win . A game of 2 halves alright and I was at least impressed with some performances. Xavier Coates was a standout ,and I was really surprised with Corey Oates ability as well. I even had to stop and rewind once there, for a tackle Milf made ,as I didn't believe it was him . It looked like Milford and Boyd were read the riot act as they should have been, and actually made some sort of an effort . Payne Hass is just a really special player ,possibly their best .
look they weren't great but the signs again were there. Brodie Croft's kicking game was better and his stats were almost ,if not better than Cherry- Evans . Kotoni Staggs does look dangerous with the ball ,but he needs a better combination inside him ,and just back up Xavier Coates ,because he's looking to offload the ball if he can ,as he hasn't yet learned to be a hog . They just lack a really good finessed game plan, and with the return of TPJ and Andrew Fifita ,they just need training to BACK each other up, look to offload for 2nd phase play or promote to someone Looking to PUT themselves in a better position . They draw so much defence these forwards, they are strong runners when the want to be and working together as a pack ,and not as individuals just hitting it up ,would in attack I think gas any of these NRL sides defences .This is the JOB of the coach and I've always said this is a good roster of players to work with . Yes they say they are just young men ,however this should advantage them, with their youth ,fitness and strength , to play a strong full 80 minutes football. A win would have been a good confidence builder, but I've had at least some faith somewhat restored , I just hope they have . Go the fucking Broncos .

 

[McHunt]

After watching the no try of Boyd’s last night, I think the boys should be coached into that if a dummy runner even breathes on you, the defender should drop to the ground as if hit by a semi and then appeal for obstruction (regardless of whether it results in a try or not).
If we can’t beat the corrupt system, then we need to start playing to it until the N(SW)RL is “forced” to remove it!

Make this man coach!

 

[rnabokov]

Just watched the extended highlights. Our edge defence .. sigh. Both Manly tries out wide
(I don't count the DCE no-try which was a gift to Hasler from the NRL) were scored where both Oates and Offa were standing in the middle of the field leaving acres of space out wide which Manly gratefully accepted with quick passing out wide and we were screwed for numbers. Bingo. Seibs, when will you see the bleeding obvious and fix it.

 

[heartly87]

If you can work 5G towers into this I reckon you have a solid theory.

I also heard that the refs are subterranean lizard men.