PRE-GAME [Round 7, 2022] Broncos vs Bulldogs

[theshed]

Cowboys fans are unanimously wish us good luck with TMM at fullback, I don’t remember his performances there but I’m assuming they weren’t too flash.

 

[Big Pete]

Cowboys fans are unanimously wish us good luck with TMM at fullback, I don’t remember his performances there but I’m assuming they weren’t too flash.

They tried it through out 2018-19 to fit him into the team and he was very poor there. Struggled positionally and with the physicality of the position. He didn't really bring anything to the position either.

Which is why I think the argument of 'well, I'd rather Martin cops the heat' is extremely weak. I've got no issue with coming up with alternative arrangements but the Broncos ought to play their best hand first.

 

[Sproj]

Like you are all jizzing yourselves that we are going to play this bloke who tee’d off against cup teams last year. TMM don’t get me wrong won’t be amazing. But Selwyn at this stage in his career is atrocious (at FB). Like new level ATROCIOUS at that position. He has no lateral movement, no ball playing ability, little support play, no game awareness, no ability to play within a structure both defensively and offensively and the inability to set and communicate about defensive structures in the line. The only thing Tesi doesn’t do of them is defend well structurally. He doesn’t do any of them amazingly but he does them. I can tell you TMM does a lot of those things better than Selwyn. We have the most error prone player in the comp from the wing at 19 years of age and you guys want to chuck him at fullback. Poor **** isn’t ready and won’t handle it and in a matter of weeks TMM will likely be up to speed.

So again, give TMM a couple of weeks, and he'll be up to speed. Give Cobbo a couple of weeks and...he'll fail? What is it about TMM so far this season in the HALVES in Q Cup level is telling you he'll go fine at fullback? In fact, he has just started getting up to speed in the halves, a position he is a specialist at, at the level BELOW NRL.

And just so we are clear, I would be going with Herbie and I think most would but for whatever reason, it doesn't seem like it will happen so if it comes to a choice between Cobbo (a guy who was carving up there at Q Cup level last season) or TMM (a guy who has just started looking ok in the halves in that same competition after years out), I'm going with Cobbo.

Cobbo also looked pretty good there last week and was even barking some instructions. He DID show some ball playing, albeit not much, he DID some support play and he DID show urgency at the back. We are up against the Dogs this week, see how he goes. If he fails, go to TMM or whoever then.

 

[McHunt]

I reckon this match is Kevvie's last stand.

We need to win this, and we need to win it big for Kevvie's vision to have any credibility. There's no "just a few more weeks" or "we're heading in the right direction." This is it.

This should be our easiest match of the season, or near enough to it. We're coming off two games where we matched genuine premiership hopefuls and for large stretches looked the better team. We have our best player, our second best player (according to BHQ) and our hatchet man returning. Adam Reynolds, Kotoni Staggs, Corey Oates and Selwyn Cobbo are starting to form combinations and fire. We have no excuses.

Broncos by 20+ or I'm off the Kevvie train. If we lose again, bye bye Kevvie and take Alfie and all your assistant coaches with you.

 

[Galah]

I reckon this match is Kevvie's last stand.

We need to win this, and we need to win it big for Kevvie's vision to have any credibility. There's no "just a few more weeks" or "we're heading in the right direction." This is it.

This should be our easiest match of the season, or near enough to it. We're coming off two games where we matched genuine premiership hopefuls and for large stretches looked the better team. We have our best player, our second best player (according to BHQ) and our hatchet man returning. Adam Reynolds, Kotoni Staggs, Corey Oates and Selwyn Cobbo are starting to form combinations and fire. We have no excuses.

Broncos by 20+ or I'm off the Kevvie train. If we lose again, bye bye Kevvie and take Alfie and all your assistant coaches with you.

This

 

[Sproj]

On the hatchet man, how many weeks are we expecting Flegs to be suspended for and at what minute will it occur?

 

[winslow_wong]

I reckon this match is Kevvie's last stand.

We need to win this, and we need to win it big for Kevvie's vision to have any credibility. There's no "just a few more weeks" or "we're heading in the right direction." This is it.

This should be our easiest match of the season, or near enough to it. We're coming off two games where we matched genuine premiership hopefuls and for large stretches looked the better team. We have our best player, our second best player (according to BHQ) and our hatchet man returning. Adam Reynolds, Kotoni Staggs, Corey Oates and Selwyn Cobbo are starting to form combinations and fire. We have no excuses.

Broncos by 20+ or I'm off the Kevvie train. If we lose again, bye bye Kevvie and take Alfie and all your assistant coaches with you.

If we lose this I feel we’ll be playing the tigers for the spoon.

 

[Johnny92]

I reckon this match is Kevvie's last stand.

We need to win this, and we need to win it big for Kevvie's vision to have any credibility. There's no "just a few more weeks" or "we're heading in the right direction." This is it.

This should be our easiest match of the season, or near enough to it. We're coming off two games where we matched genuine premiership hopefuls and for large stretches looked the better team. We have our best player, our second best player (according to BHQ) and our hatchet man returning. Adam Reynolds, Kotoni Staggs, Corey Oates and Selwyn Cobbo are starting to form combinations and fire. We have no excuses.

Broncos by 20+ or I'm off the Kevvie train. If we lose again, bye bye Kevvie and take Alfie and all your assistant coaches with you.

How he handles the replacement for Tesi is a big question and will show his ability to manage a team.
We let our back up in Issako walk after round 1. We don't have a specialist fullback on our roster, this isn't a band-aid fix for a couple weeks this is pretty much a whole season.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

I reckon this match is Kevvie's last stand.

We need to win this, and we need to win it big for Kevvie's vision to have any credibility. There's no "just a few more weeks" or "we're heading in the right direction." This is it.

This should be our easiest match of the season, or near enough to it. We're coming off two games where we matched genuine premiership hopefuls and for large stretches looked the better team. We have our best player, our second best player (according to BHQ) and our hatchet man returning. Adam Reynolds, Kotoni Staggs, Corey Oates and Selwyn Cobbo are starting to form combinations and fire. We have no excuses.

Broncos by 20+ or I'm off the Kevvie train. If we lose again, bye bye Kevvie and take Alfie and all your assistant coaches with you.

Yep. He should be treating this game as do or die. If we turn up with a mentality like Parra have against Wests, he's a goner.

 

[Sproj]

Yep. He should be treating this game as do or die. If we turn up with a mentality like Parra have against Wests, he's a goner.

Hopefully he is honestly telling the team, 'Don't you guys dare turn up complacent, you aren't good enough to be complacent against anyone.'

 

[BroncsFan]

Cowboys fans are unanimously wish us good luck with TMM at fullback, I don’t remember his performances there but I’m assuming they weren’t too flash.

I think my memory of him back there would be like Mbye has been at fullback this year.

There purely for ball playing in attack with minimal ability to break the line from his running game.

Suspect under the high ball and clearly not his best or preferred position.

My hope is that maybe Kev is just going through his options before making a decision or potentially he's considering TMM on the bench in case he wants some coverage during the game.

I think Kev has been quoted as saying that it's unfortunate for Niu, but it will be a great opportunity for Cobbo to get some games back there. I think that quote was probably straight after the game or at least before it was known how long Tesi would be out for.

One thing I was thinking to assist with transitioning Cobbo to fullback was having Mead on the wing, but they switch between defensive and attacking sets... or at least Cobbo is aware of Mead being there if he ever needs a break (fitness wise).

We cant do it yet with Mead's injury though

 

[McHunt]

On the hatchet man, how many weeks are we expecting Flegs to be suspended for and at what minute will it occur?

This is the match where Flegs gets up off the mat as the music swells.

 

[Sproj]

I think my memory of him back there would be like Mbye has been at fullback this year.

There purely for ball playing in attack with minimal ability to break the line from his running game.

Suspect under the high ball and clearly not his best or preferred position.

My hope is that maybe Kev is just going through his options before making a decision or potentially he's considering TMM on the bench in case he wants some coverage during the game.

I think Kev has been quoted as saying that it's unfortunate for Niu, but it will be a great opportunity for Cobbo to get some games back there. I think that quote was probably straight after the game or at least before it was known how long Tesi would be out for.

One thing I was thinking to assist with transitioning Cobbo to fullback was having Mead on the wing, but they switch between defensive and attacking sets... or at least Cobbo is aware of Mead being there if he ever needs a break (fitness wise).

We cant do it yet with Mead's injury though

You could do it with Herbie though.

 

[1910]

They tried it through out 2018-19 to fit him into the team and he was very poor there. Struggled positionally and with the physicality of the position. He didn't really bring anything to the position either.

Which is why I think the argument of 'well, I'd rather Martin cops the heat' is extremely weak. I've got no issue with coming up with alternative arrangements but the Broncos ought to play their best hand first.

He copped it late but didn't he when Barba got sacked?

 

[Johnny92]

I think my memory of him back there would be like Mbye has been at fullback this year.

There purely for ball playing in attack with minimal ability to break the line from his running game.

Suspect under the high ball and clearly not his best or preferred position.

My hope is that maybe Kev is just going through his options before making a decision or potentially he's considering TMM on the bench in case he wants some coverage during the game.

I think Kev has been quoted as saying that it's unfortunate for Niu, but it will be a great opportunity for Cobbo to get some games back there. I think that quote was probably straight after the game or at least before it was known how long Tesi would be out for.

One thing I was thinking to assist with transitioning Cobbo to fullback was having Mead on the wing, but they switch between defensive and attacking sets... or at least Cobbo is aware of Mead being there if he ever needs a break (fitness wise).

We cant do it yet with Mead's injury though

Could be done with Herbie also.
But seems like Herbie isn't a option considering he was the choice before Tesi last season but a injury to Xavier in warm up pushed a reshuffle giving Tesi his chance.

 

[hench2020]

Must admit have enjoyed 6 weeks of "Anyone but Tesi" but now the board is collectively peeing their pants of TMM at fullback.

 

[BroncsFan]

You could do it with Herbie though.

You could but I think defensively that might be too much chopping and changing.

Defending on the wing he'd be back with Mead on kick returns, but defending in the centers is a whole different type of ball game... not to mention that Cobbo would be shifted to the left and having to learn how to defend in the centers, whilst also thinking about his fullback play.

It would also be disruptive to Herbie and that left side defensive combination.

 

[theshed]

If Cobbo is the choice then it’s a shame we are wasting precious training sessions not working on his fullback play.

The only thing I can think of is Cobbo has said that he doesn’t want to do it. Or maybe Kev is just being proactive incase Cobbo fails or is injured. Maybe he’s just trolling the bulldogs.

As McHunt said though, he’ll live or die by this decision and won’t be forgiven for a loss to the dogs.