PRE-GAME Round 7 - Eels v Broncos

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Huge

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Doesn't that remind you of someone
I too think Taylor had as much skill as Milford but unlike Milford there wasn't anything he couldn't do. No way could Milford ever be the most dominant forward in any match but there wasn't a match where Taylor couldn't be if he decided he would be. He could do that and still have playmaking when he felt like it. I remember WB hating him doing anything unscripted but Taylor should have just been let be. I always thought he'd win you more games than the opposite. I thought many pies ago that you'd just get him fit and tell him to do whatever the **** he likes and everyone else, follow the big kid around. So much fun with Dave.
 

scobie

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The only player I would be omitting from this game is Flegler, who is at best an ordinary liability, even as a bench prop option. I would be replacing him with Kennedy and bringing Farnworth back in for Kennar who drops straight out. Dearden was definitely the weakest part of our spine on the night but he still tried his guts out, and deserves a chance to build on his combination with Croft. It's not like Isaako was anything better than solid either and nobody is calling for his head, even after the braindead kicks on the first tackle and the field goal attempt.

I dearly hope Kev doesn't hit the panic button and brings Milford back in. Between how the side performed last night and Lodge's comments to the media, he clearly doesn't command the trust of his teammates. Kev also needs to maintain the sort of passion that he showed in the pre-game rev up. That's the sort of verbaling this team needs to cop before every game until they can prove they can deliver what they did last night consistently.

1. Isaako
2. Oates
3. Farnworth
4. Mead
5. Coates
6. Dearden
7. Croft
8. Haas
9. Turpin
10. Lodge
11. Glenn (c)
12. TPJ
13. Carrigan

14. Asiata
15. Kennedy
16. Bullemor
17. Riki
Like this. Especially Kennedy in for Flegler. I would like to see Niu back in though. Mead is a competitor, but he's not a centre. Niu has had a week off, bring him back in is my call. He wasn't shocking or anything. I don't understand leaving a young centre out of the side for an old winger to play in his place. Let him be part of the resurgence.
 

pagey

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Like this. Especially Kennedy in for Flegler. I would like to see Niu back in though. Mead is a competitor, but he's not a centre. Niu has had a week off, bring him back in is my call. He wasn't shocking or anything. I don't understand leaving a young centre out of the side for an old winger to play in his place. Let him be part of the resurgence.
Niu is a fullback, and is struggling defensively leave him in cup with Milf and Khunt for a month or so.
 

heartly87

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Like this. Especially Kennedy in for Flegler. I would like to see Niu back in though. Mead is a competitor, but he's not a centre. Niu has had a week off, bring him back in is my call. He wasn't shocking or anything. I don't understand leaving a young centre out of the side for an old winger to play in his place. Let him be part of the resurgence.
He would be defending that man beast Papali'i, so that's a no form me dog, unless we want to be down by 30 at half time. but a yes for Kennedy, he deserves a go.
 

BroncsFan

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Team I'm anticipating:
1. Isaako
2. Oates
3. Herbie
4. Mead
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. Turps
10. Haas
11. Glenn
12. TPJ
13. Carrigan

14. Asiata
15. Kennedy
16. Bullemor
17. Riki


- I would like to see Fleg spend some time down in ISC... at this point in his career he needs to become a solid reliable middle forward instead of this reckless middle forward overplaying his role.
- I think Mead gets the center spot over Kennar and moves over to the right. Herbie takes back his spot on the left
- Oates comes back in, but desperately needs to sort out his catching under bombs

The rotation off the bench is actually quite difficult with Haas, Lodge and Carrigan all probably playing more than 50mins and both second rowers likely playing 80mins. There's not a lot of minutes left over for 4 forwards off the bench.
 

Financeguy

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Ferguson grows a foot taller and a yard faster when he matches up on Oates in the past.

Need Kevvie to fire him up to get in Fergo’s face rather than laughing with him after Fergo scores
 

Allo

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If Kevvie continues his bench use improvement, it's not really that hard to manage

Assuming Pangai plays 80 on the edge going forward

Last game was

Lodge 38mins
Haas 63mins
Carrigan 52mins
Glenn 60mins

Asiata 26mins
Flegler 27mins
Bullemor 34mins
Riki 20mins

You can continue to knock down Glenn's minutes and up Riki. If Glenn knows he's only playing 40-50mins, he may become a lit more dynamic knowing he doesn't have to save himself, Riki too may have some more impact.

So that's one change only

the three middles have 240 mins between them, and you can average it out to around 150mins of that for the starters. That leaves you ~30 mins each for the other forwards. Give each one a rest. let the bench guys play their stint and put everyone back on for the final 25 -30 mins and finish strong. Account for particular game situations and everything too, because set-in-stone interchange plans won't always work.

1/8 for Glenn off for Riki at some point
2/8 and 3/8 Lodge off for x, x off for Lodge
4/8 and 5/8 Haas off for x, x off for Haas
6/8 and 7/8 Carrigan off for Asiata, Asiata off for Carrigan

8/8 for emergencies/extra break

I do think Jake needs a breather for maybe 10-15 at most, but unless you have an out-and-out hooker, playing a Paix or someone for only a handful of minutes isn't very beneficial to him (Paix) or the team as we lose a lot in defence with Jake off
 

BroncosFever

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Kevvie has another big call to make, I don't think Mead is viable as a centre .. but how do you leave out Corey Oates? you simply can't, at least not this week.
 

Cult

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Ferguson grows a foot taller and a yard faster when he matches up on Oates in the past.

Need Kevvie to fire him up to get in Fergo’s face rather than laughing with him after Fergo scores
That’s because he steps inside and runs over Milford. Wont be as easy with someone who actually tries to tackle him this time
 

Bakamary

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Parra dominated one of the best forward packs in Canberra at GIO last night. We just have to play with the same intensity against Penrith and you never know. Mitchell Moses was instrumental but doesn’t have his regular halves partner Dylan Brown. If we can unsettle them with some early aggression and points like the Dragons did, we will be a chance. In round 1 we did it for periods of the game but not long enough. Hopefully we’ve learned something since then.
 

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Perfect opportunity to bring in a relief hooker onto the bench.
Don't think that's going to be Issac Luke any time soon. Wynnum's benched him for today's game. Shame we can't watch the Paix, Kelly, Milford, KHunt, Niu combo this afternoon. Piakura and Gamble on the other side for Norths.
 

I bleed Maroon

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Don't think that's going to be Issac Luke any time soon. Wynnum's benched him for today's game. Shame we can't watch the Paix, Kelly, Milford, KHunt, Niu combo this afternoon. Piakura and Gamble on the other side for Norths.

Isn't it streamed on the Intrust SC website?
 

theshed

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Parra dominated one of the best forward packs in Canberra at GIO last night. We just have to play with the same intensity against Penrith and you never know. Mitchell Moses was instrumental but doesn’t have his regular halves partner Dylan Brown. If we can unsettle them with some early aggression and points like the Dragons did, we will be a chance. In round 1 we did it for periods of the game but not long enough. Hopefully we’ve learned something since then.

Much like Kev’s good plan to minimise To’os impact last week, I hope he has a nice simple game plan to get a big body 1:1 with Moses and make him tackle all night. I also hope he fires someone up with the directive to belt him legally when he has the ball.

The eels have switched sides a few times this season so I’m unsure if Moses will be on TPJ and Croft’s side but I hope he is.
 

Huge

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Team I'm anticipating:
1. Isaako
2. Oates
3. Herbie
4. Mead
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. Turps
10. Haas
11. Glenn
12. TPJ
13. Carrigan

14. Asiata
15. Kennedy
16. Bullemor
17. Riki


- I would like to see Fleg spend some time down in ISC... at this point in his career he needs to become a solid reliable middle forward instead of this reckless middle forward overplaying his role.
- I think Mead gets the center spot over Kennar and moves over to the right. Herbie takes back his spot on the left
- Oates comes back in, but desperately needs to sort out his catching under bombs

The rotation off the bench is actually quite difficult with Haas, Lodge and Carrigan all probably playing more than 50mins and both second rowers likely playing 80mins. There's not a lot of minutes left over for 4 forwards off the bench.
Ideally ,you wouldn't play Lodge for more than 40 mins. According to that single media piece I read KW is looking to make further changes to the forwards. Lodge Haas and TPJ were great and I cannot see them changed this week. If Kennedy gets a run he'd be on for Lodge I suppose. I'd get Haas off before halftime but what do you do when the teams going alright and he wants to stay on.

I'd rather give the frontrow to Lodge and Kennedy and drop Haas back to second row. Two straight and hard, two creative metre gaining forwards to wreak havoc. Just get Dearden, Croft and Isaako following along behind.
 
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