NEWS Seibold slams Broncos' attitude

Slippin Jimmy

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If the coach only does one thing, it's fire up the team. So when he's saying the team has the wrong "attitude" he's literally saying he wasn't able to fire them up. In other words, he's saying they're not listening to him.
He's saying they weren't up for the game. They were up for the game last week, and the week before, and so on. You don't say a coach has lost the dressing room because they couldn't get their team fired up for one game. It's just silliness.

Now if you want to complain about how dreadful our attack is, even when the boys are fired up, or about who currently occupies the 1, 6, 7 and 9 in our team, then you're being reasonable.
 

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He's saying they weren't up for the game. They were up for the game last week, and the week before, and so on. You don't say a coach has lost the dressing room because they couldn't get their team fired up for one game. It's just silliness.

Now if you want to complain about how dreadful our attack is, even when the boys are fired up, or about who currently occupies the 1, 6, 7 and 9 in our team, then you're being reasonable.
I would agree if he'd only said it once, but he's used it as an excuse a few times. Most notably during the rep period. If attitude is an ongoing problem, it's the coach's fault.

Besides which, it's a bullshit excuse.
 
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Gaz

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Speak for yourself. Wasn't my fault.
I beg to differ, clearly your expectations were set too high and because our team didn’t reach them you are looking for someone else to blame. Myself, I never thought for a moment we would reach the finals this year. That said, I am hurting along with everyone else but we are certainly not a finals oriented team yet, that comes with experience and that takes time.
 

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I beg to differ, clearly your expectations were set too high and because our team didn’t reach them you are looking for someone else to blame. Myself, I never thought for a moment we would reach the finals this year. That said, I am hurting along with everyone else but we are certainly not a finals oriented team yet, that comes with experience and that takes time.
My expectations are being met so far. I've only commented on Seibold's excuse (attitude) being a bit whiny. That said, it's easier medicine than admitting our spine doesn't have the skillset.
 
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Utterly abhorrent. Either Boyd and Macca are protected by the powers that be or Seibold is a complete fuckwit and deserves to go, which is something I can't accept ... yet
To be fair they're not the ONLY two options.
 

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My expectations are being met so far. I've only commented on Seibold's excuse (attitude) being a bit whiny. That said, it's easier medicine than admitting our spine doesn't have the skillset.
That is the part which is really baffling. It seems like everyone but Seibold can see the bleeding obvious
 

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This must be the fifth time I’ve read that Seibold has given the team a spray about their attitudes, but it’s just words. Do they need to pick up their game? Absolutely. Have half of them had the crappiest seasons I’ve seen them play in awhile? For sure. Boyd, Macca, Issako, Shibasaki, and Oates have been extremely ordinary this season, to name a few.

But maybe that’s not the only problem. Maybe they need a coach who will actually bench the idiots who are underperforming like Boyd and Macca. Maybe we need a coach who doesn’t insist on playing a hooker at half, and maybe we need an actual game plan that includes the players passing the goddamn ball, halves who have an actual kicking game, and players who know how (and when) to tackle.

We’re going to get crushed next week if we field the same team we used this week. But at least the pain of watching this team sleepwalk through every other bloody game will be over.
 

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That is the part which is really baffling. It seems like everyone but Seibold can see the bleeding obvious
The hardest pill isn't Boyd and Macca, but Milford. He's not in the bad category, by any means, but he's still not quite as good as he needs to be, and he seems to have peaked.
 

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The hardest pill isn't Boyd and Macca, but Milford. He's not in the bad category, by any means, but he's still not quite as good as he needs to be, and he seems to have peaked.
He needs to be at 5/8 which is his best position. His move to FB was because Boyd was screwing up. Dumb. In fact, because of the obsession with keeping Boyd and Macca, the entire team structure is fucked
 
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He needs to be at 5/8 which is his best position. His move to FB was because Boyd was screwing up. Dumb. In fact, because of the obsession with keeping Boyd and Macca, the entire team structure is fucked
Was also to make sure Milford wasn’t getting destroyed defending in the front line too because he is a serial arm grabber
 

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He needs to be at 5/8 which is his best position. His move to FB was because Boyd was screwing up. Dumb. In fact, because of the obsession with keeping Boyd and Macca, the entire team structure is fucked
He wasn't that great at 5/8 either, or Seibold would never have moved him. Maybe he'd be good enough at 5/8th if we had a brilliant halfback. But we don't have that either.

The problem is Milford is the only one with a step and change of pace, who can run at the line, but we don't seem to see that so much anymore.

Boyd used to have it to, but I can't even remember the last time we saw it. We need that in the halves. I'm not sure SOS or Dearden are the answer there. Turpin clearly isn't.
 

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He wasn't that great at 5/8 either, or Seibold would never have moved him. Maybe he'd be good enough at 5/8th if we had a brilliant halfback. But we don't have that either.

The problem is Milford is the only one with a step and change of pace, who can run at the line, but we don't seem to see that so much anymore.

Boyd used to have it to, but I can't even remember the last time we saw it. We need that in the halves. I'm not sure SOS or Dearden are the answer there. Turpin clearly isn't.
My memory is that Milford was a great 5/8 in a team that didn't particularly gel. He was probably our best over the last 3 years. As for Boyd, I also can't remember him having a step or change of pace in the way that Milford or other halves have. Apart from which, like Turpin, for mine he just doesn't have the talent or skills to be a half. FB, wing centre - yes.

As for Dearden and SOS, I remember both of them taking on the line repeatedly. Turpin, rarely. Funnily enough, when he does, and he did take on the line against the Dogs, he bent it and nearly got through. He is so inconsistent. He is potentially a top shelf hooker being wasted.
 

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I think attitude is as much a playing group thing as it is the coach... maybe more so.

The coach can demand whatever they want, but if you start letting your team mates down or you don't meet the standards that the playing group set out you sure as hell know you won't be in the team for very long.

You'll lose the trust of your team mates and then you'll be gone.

At the moment the leadership group either aren't being hard enough on poor performances, aren't leading by example or they aren't demanding enough respect from the rest of the playing group.

To me I would say it's a little bit of 1 and 2
 
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